Re: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] “Dear RTI Activist, please solve my problem for free”

Dear Mr.Sarbajit Roy,

I had kept myself out of circulation from all our RTI Groups since
last one year mainly due to my inability to sustain the in-fighting Of
course I kept myself away from it. Since last few days I started to
have a peep in my old forums. Things seems cooled down. Do you think
I can sustain and can start to become active now ?.

With warm regards
Col NR Kurup

On 01/07/2011, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are 2 good places to get your problems solved free.
> a) This mailing list
> b) http://rtiindia.org (run by Mr Karira and others)
>
> the "b" option is the preferred one.. Once you have reached some conclusion
> there, you ought to post the final draft 2nd appeal evolved for the
> consideration of this group's more advanced members..
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:45 AM, AVTAR SINGH
> <avtarsingh119@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Sarabjit Roy,
>>
>> I am a rertired officer from defence.
>> I along with 200 officers have won our case regarding pension at three
>> different benches of AFT,
>> The plea has been identical and judgement similar. The judgement was
>> delivered on 16 Sep 2010,1 Nov 2011 and 25 Nov 2011.
>>
>> Though the stipulated period of three/four months has elapsed we have not
>> got our dues.
>>
>> One of our fellow ranling officers who was not a petitioner have have
>> filed
>> two RTIS on 15 and a6 marcg 2011.
>>
>> The reminder for this was sent as first appeal to the appellate authority
>> on 15 may 2011 and 18 June 2011
>>
>> We now propose to file second appeal to CIC.
>>
>> Can you suggest some expert of RTI around Delhi who could assist us in
>> filing second appeal to CIC.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Avtar Singh
>> 1-7-2011
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:03:48 +0530
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] "Dear RTI Activist, please solve
>> my problem for free"
>> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>
>>
>> Dear Karira ("rtiwanted")
>>
>> Many thanks for finally getting Mr Krishnaraj Rao to openly admit that he
>> is in the business of filing RTI applications and negotiating deals to
>> "defend" people's assets for a charge. The bonafides of his so-called RTI
>> Users Association are completely exposed by this statement.
>>
>> Secondly, if we recall his "hunger strike" at Anna's vilage of Ralegaon
>> Siddhi, it is quite obvious that he is only trying to replicate (in his
>> own
>> small way) Anna's own "business" model.
>>
>> Personally, I condemn such commercial minded people who are a blot on the
>> RTI moivement, the less we interact with them the better. At
>> HumJanenge-Googlegroups we are trying to make this a group for selfless
>> people who freely asisst each other to further the RTI movement for nation
>> building.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Krishnaraj Rao
>> <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> Dear Jam,
>>
>> My conclusion is:
>>
>> 1) RTI activists/experts should reasonably charge private parties whose
>> assets they defend, provided the parties are capable of bearing the
>> charge.
>>
>> 2) In private matters where there is a very large element of public
>> interest, they may consider not charging.
>>
>> 3) They should not charge citizens who are working for public interest. In
>> fact, for such citizens, they should go out of their way to help with time
>> and monetary resources.
>>
>> 4) For ensuring the health of the RTI movement, they have a multiple
>> responsibility. They have to act in such a way that:
>> a) Public Interest is paramount in all that they do or say.
>> b) People who uphold public interest remain in good financial health.
>> c) Private parties get good quality service and growing numbers of
>> service-providers (paid) or guidance-providers (free) to choose from.
>> d) There is plenty of self-help knowledge available in the public domain
>> so
>> that people take the paid services out of free choice, and not because of
>> lack of access to information.
>>
>> Thanks for your interest in this discussion.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>> Krish
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > Krishnaraj,
>> >
>> > So, what is your conclusion ?
>> >
>> > Should RTI activists/helpers/consultants/experts/etc charge citizens or
>> not
>> > ?
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