Sunday, June 4, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] Dismiss this stupid COAS "Rawat"

So Mr Vinay Kumar is the "Self Appointed One Man Commission"!

If this is all true why fear appointing an independent Inquiry Commission or Parliamentary Committee to hold inquiry? 

"Means are as important as the ends" said Gandhiji, Father of the Nation.

Even if we do accept that in Major Gogoi's view the situation demanded this kind of action, why parade Dar for over five hours? Can the "Self Appointed One Man Commission" answer this? Who knows if the pictures posted are not file photos or created by photoshop? After all the software can do all this. Was it not to intimidate Kashmiri people? Are Kashmiris not our own people? Misguided, though they are, they are all Indians and our own people. Don't do anything that may further alienate them, Mr "Self Appointed One Man Commission". 

To maintain law and order is the job of the local police. Police is fully equipped. Army is not. Why the COAS does not have the guts to tell political bosses that Army's job is to fight the enemy on the borders and that this job be assigned to the local police?

If Dar was a terrorist or supportive of terrorism he should have been arrested and dealt as in law envisaged. 

I somehow feel this guy Vinay Kumar is a propagandist writing in pseudo name.

During my legal practice spanning over three and a half decades I have dealt with hundreds (if not thousand) of cases involving Armed Forces personnel (men, JCOs and officers - both at junior and senior level), para Military personnel and and also defended Army personnel and very senior army officers facing court martials and Courts of Inquiry. And I know how subjective they are and are guided by command influence. So giving clean chit to and a pat on the back of Major Gogoi by the Army bosses does not really impress me. 

Having been in legal profession I value Rule of Law. 

Colonel Kapoor (served Indian Army for over 21 years)
Advocate (practising for the last 34 years)


On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 at 2:29 AM, Prakash Katoch <prakashkatoch7@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:44 AM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody who has worked with Forces and has been deputed to difficult areas like Kashmir at this moment knows that some strict action is required.

Now wether this Dar is as innocent as some ppl say is doubtful.
An Army guy will never pick up a innocent bystander unless the local fella is actively involved in continous act which is against safety of officials and the Nation.

Kashmir is becoming the hot bed for these anti national activities.
And they have themselves invited the Army there with situation getting out if hand as we watch.

Sitting in our drawing rooms its easy to fire at Gogoi. We shd be with him and fight the insurgents and then we should judge him.

Regards to all.


On 30 May 2017 11:20, "kameswar elangbam" <dreksingh@gmail.com> wrote:
IAC has become a group of frustrated idiotic persons who has become  anti to anything and full of negative attitudes; exactly from the comments and opinions made by the members after the Maj Gogoi episode in Kashmir.
To express so much against the current government somewhat similar like Rajdeep and Burkha of 2002 days, that they couldn't defend from the alleged paid paid News syndrome till today.

Let's name IAC as  "INDIANS AGAINST COUNTRY " and be a group of Namak Harams for betraying the very nation, Army and the government who feed us.
Jai Hind 


On 29 May 2017 23:50, "Debashish Haar" <debashish.haar@gmail.com> wrote:
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Also to the list owner, i see the place has become too full with folks who are too full with themselves. I dont want to be among the blinds being led by blinds and deafs who "dance to their beats."

Could you please suggest an easier way to unsubscribe to this group? 

On May 29, 2017 9:06 PM, "Debashish Haar" <debashish.haar@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Vijay Shivdasani,

With due respect could you please then enlighten us what exactly happened, and i assume your core competence makes you an authority in the subject.

Regards
Debashish

On May 29, 2017 9:02 PM, "Vijay Shivdasani" <suchshon@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry--I don't think you know what you are talking about! You should be behind bars for suggesting what you have.
Pls stick to your core competence

Vijay Shivdasani
Mumbai

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com> wrote:
A Kashmiri goes to vote in troubled times; braving the scorn of his
fellowmen (who mostly want to secede from India), and the response of
the Indian Army's officer is to tie him up, and drive him around for 5
hours on the bonnet of a jeep. Then the COAS commends his junior for
this blatant assault on democracy while the CoI is underway.

If Farooq Ahmed Dar is indeed a "terrorist" and/or "ringleader" (both
words being included as Unparliamentary ones) then Army should either
arrest Dar, or summon him as a witness in the court of inquiry against
Gogoi, or else eliminate him in a staged encounter as is usually done
in J&K (eg. Pathrabal) and then conduct a proforma CoI/CM.

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