Monday, January 2, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: India Against Corruption's stand on note demonetisation

The government had given a dead line upto 30th September for disclosing unaccounted money and went on reminding the public of stronger measures again and again should they not voluntarily disclose! Government through PM announced on 2nd september that one cannot blame the government if stronger action is taken is taken to bare undisclosed income! In the circumstances there is no room for bickerrings  or finger pointing! Of course the fact remains that there is always a better way of doing things and each one is free to contemplate, of course considering that we are a democracy!   


On Tuesday, 3 January 2017 11:04 AM, vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


It is surely not the emotional surge of the people against the government.It was due to unexpected action of the government that they could not take counter action to nullify the effect of demonetization before it came.
How does he know that all the surplus money in the system is the savings of the poor and not the spoils of the black-marketeers? And where is the question of Patanjali coming in in this discussion and what does he mean by calling its products as unethical? What are ethical products? The fact is that in spite of demonetization there were no riots amongst the people as these people had predicted nor any agitations against the government.

V. S. Sardesai

On Monday, 2 January 2017 9:03 PM, Gopalkrishnan iyer <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


In the emotional surge of people against or in favour of the govt. most writers here forgets that we have a democracy and unless other wise a questionable situation arises we have to live with the aftermath of demonetization for2 1/2 years more and thereafter, if cannot be dislodged! Unlike like a CEO of a company the CEO/s of the government cannot be sacked by a few finding fault with the right or wrong doing! There is no qualification or experience stipulation for a politician who can even be illiterate- not necessarily hawards, London school or other "reputed" institution qualified! There is no one in our large country, nay in the whole world, who is experienced in unearthing black money or dealing with menace of  parallel economy! in the circumstances the present demonetization is definitely required to be achieved to curtail black money by trial and error and that is why the government has been so proactive 24x7  to do course correction/amends as the situation demanded!
Corruption and black money accumulation has acquired cancerous proportion and the government has done surgery and chemotherapy to curtail the cause and in the process, like that in cancer, certain disfigurement is inevitable! It is now time for 'plastic surgeons" to restore the aesthetics and this writer is hopeful that the govt will attain the target to a great extent in the course of a few years! Be on the toes anticipating other strikes including another demonetization to mop up what escaped the net in this episode! Our vehemence or acute anger cannot do much to the present govt. who has a clear majority, democratically! Of course we can make suggestions and advice in the interest of public at large!    


On Monday, 2 January 2017 9:51 AM, "truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Chicanery again Now he needs time till 2019 for the ache din. I had expected himself to come out with figures of black money surrendering; corruption money seized; terror money apprehended and drug money destroyed. At least should he not admit to us that he has committed a blunder in demonetisation? I can not forget the story of a ji who drank polidol to get rid of the mosquitoes troubling him so that they would be poisoned while drinking his blood. Here the only difference is that the ji has administered the polidol, promising us that all mosquitoes will be eradicated in 2019. Now, the present ' incentives '.
1. All these could have been initiated without demonetisation. Because all the surplus money in the system is the savings of the poor, not the spoils of the black marketeers. Once cash position improves, the surplus will return to the depositors.
2. What happened in Arunachal Pradesh? How much was paid to turn around MLAs? Is it not corruption and black money?
3.It is again a cruel joke to enhance the limit to Rs. 4500/- per day. When there is no cash in the bank or ATM, they can even set that limit at Rs. One lakh a day. All the new currency issued have been gobbled up by the black money holders, counterfeiters, terror & drug bosses.
4.Same is the case of old age concessions. Where will we find 7.5 lakhs to claim 8% interest?
5. Concessional lending at low rates of interest will increase NPAs on banks.
6. Where was Patanjali before 2014? How is he allowed to practice with his unethical products?
7. How Lalit Modi & Mallya are left scot free? Modi's passport is even renewed by MEA. What action on the minister?
Every thing PM does is to favour Ambanies and Adonies all the while proffesing that he is uplifting the plight of the poor man. He could have consulted Yeshwanth Sinha or Subramanyam Swamy or Raguram Rajan or even Manmohan Singh or P. Chidambaram before pushing that country into this abyssis. Note Bandi has become Jugal Bandi with all ministers joining and singing in one truthless tune. Regards.

from Holly2 Plus


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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: India Against Corruption's stand on note demonetisation
From: Raj Sangwan
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
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Million minds & trillion ideas....each idea better than the other...which one is good, bad or the best who knows or who decides.... the one who has been given the authority to do so by voters...he chose one & has implemented it ....needs real guts to do it....his track record in governance is fairly clean and good....it's a process with series of action to strengthen national security, demolish parallel economy, weed out black money etc etc.. those not convinced with the idea I am afraid have to lump it at least till 2019.

Poor people of our country will definitely get real benefits for a better life in Modi's leadership. 
Happy New Year
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On Friday, December 30, 2016, 8:40 PM, MG Kapoor <mgkapoor.1962@gmail.com> wrote:
So very true and authentic, truevalue_pandian. You have hit the nail in the head. This is what exactly it is. You have echoed my views. For a while I was in quandary if I was reading my own writing. 

They say it is ruinous to have a stupid king. And it is disastrous to have stupid and sycophants as his advisors. 

Very much appreciate your views on the post. 

Regards, 

MG 

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On 30-Dec-2016, at 12:35 PM, truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com (via indiaresists Mailing List) <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

It is pathetic to note that a Himalayan economic blunder is being glossed over by political rhetoric. Question of Nehruvian and Modivian does not matter when we talk of human suffering. Is it not possible to raid each and every black money hoarder, like top beaurocrats, politician, educational merchants, corporate housesrealtors, etc.without demonetisation? Why not no BJP man targeted? Is Modi above corruption? Why no other Chief Secretary investigated? Obvious black money holders, the private medical college owners untouched? Corruption resurrected with conversion of old notes into new; 30% is the price. Remember : for every offender apprehended, there are 100 untouched. Black money now turned pink. All new notes found their way into the pockets of powerful people. Common man is unable to lay hands on a single Re. 2000/- note while crores wrote are seized with Rao and Reddy. Four major terror attacks took place in the last 50 days. Drug peddler is caught with 30 lakh new notes. Hence none of the stated objectives are fulfilled. There is no law that terror and drugs should lean on Indian currency. Within a week, fake notes have surfaced also.
When ground realities are grave, PM and FM have turned Goebbels with blatant lies like ' honest will not suffer ', ' more than necessary notes are supplied ', banks and ATMs are overflowing with new 500s, 1000s ', ' people are supporting demonetisation ', ' 95% are with us ', etc. How sadistic of you? They also quote statistics to prove 15% increase in tax collection 20% increase in GDP, etc. as if it could not have been achieved without the unbearable torture of the poor and middle class. Simple : Have they quantified what would be the ' long term gains ' and how soon we would be able to enjoy them? No idea. No scientific analysis has been done. Nobody realised that it take six months to replenish the notes withdrawn. Now they talk of POS and digital India. The tragedy is that there are no enough POS machines and internet connectivity is absent in most places. We are afraid of net banking because any account can be looted in the net.
Adoring BJP is different from supporting their stupidity.
Regards.

from Holly2 Plus


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From: shirish dave
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I TOO SUPPORT DEMONETIZATION:

 ON DEMONETIZATION:

(1) THE DEMONETIZATION WAS INEVITABLE SINCE LONG BACK. NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO TALK ON THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE BJP LEAD GOVERNMENT. THIS IS BECAUSE, DESPITE OF THE SUPREME COURT'S DIRECTIVES THE NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS LEAD GOVERNMENT DID NOT ACT ON THE BLACK MONEY.

(2) IT WAS KNOWN TO THE NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS LEAD GOVERNMENT, THAT THERE PREVAILED FAKE CURRENCY NOTES WERE WIDELY SPREAD THAT TOO IN A LARGE SCALE IN INDIA. THE FULL STROY OF GENERATION OF FAKE CURRENCY NOTES WAS VERY WELL KNOWN TO THE THEN GOVERNMENT (NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS) SINCE 2005 TO MAY 2014. IN FACT NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR FAKE CURRENCY NOTES. IT WAS ALSO KNOWN TO THE NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIES AS TO WHAT ROLE WAS BEING PLAYED BY FAKE CURRENCY IN INDIAN ECONOMY AND THE TERRORISTS' PROMOTION. NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS LEAD GOVERNMENT HAD NOT TAKEN ANY MEASURE IN THIS REGARDS. THE SPREAD OF FAKE CURRENCY NOTES WAS TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT THE FAKE CURRENCY NOTES WERE COMING OUT FROM THE ATMs OF NATIONALIZED BANKS TOO. THERE WAS NO OPTION BUT TO MAKE FAKE CURRENCY NOTES INEFFECTIVE. NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS LEADERS AND THEIR CULTURAL ALLIES WERE AND ARE KEEPING CRIMINAL MUM ON FAKE CURRENCY NOTES. THEY ARE LIABLE TO BE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED.

(3) ONCE UPON A TIME THE INDIAN PM viz. NARENDRA MODI, HAD REPORTED ON THE QUANTUM OF THE BLACK MONEY THAT THE QUANTUM OF BLACK MONEY COULD BE TO SUCH A GREAT AMOUNT THAT IF THE TOTAL BLACK MONEY IS DIVIDED BY THE INDIAN POPULATION, THEN IT COULD COME OUT TO BE OF THE ORDER OF 15 LAKHS RUPEES PER PERSON. WHEN THE NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIES LOST THE POWER IN 2014, AND THEY SET IN THE OPPOSITION, THEY MADE THE MOCKERY OF THE NEWLY ELECTED PM NARENDRA MODI, THAT WHY NARENDRA MODI IS NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON BLACK MONEY? THEY USED TO ASK A QUESTION AS TO WHEN THE 15 LAKHS RUPEES WOULD COME IN THEIR POCKET? THE NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIES EITHER ILLITERATE OR NOT AWARE OF THE INDIAN CONSTITUTION THAT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT IS ABLE TO SEIZE THE TOTAL BLACK MONEY, THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT DISTRIBUTE IT. IN SHORT THE NEHRUVIAN GOVERNMENT AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIES WERE HIDING THEIR OWN FAILURE ON TAKING ANY ACTION ON BLACK MONEY. NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIES IT WAS NOT IN FAVOUR OF CURBING BLACK MONEY BECAUSE THEIR OWN MONEY IN MOST SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WAS BLACK MONEY.

(4) THE PM OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT NARENDRA MODI AS SOON AS CAME TO POWER, ON THE VERY FIRST DAY HE CONSTITUTED SPECIAL INVESTIGATION TEAM HEADED BY A SC JUDGE AND THAT STARTED WORKING. FOR BETTER ECONOMY AND FOR BETTER LAW ORDER SITUATION, NARENDRA MODI DEMONETIZED Rs 500 and Rs 1000 CURRENCY NOTES. THE GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN SUFFICIENT TIME OF 52 DAYS TO DEPOSIT THE OLD DEMONETIZED CURRENCY NOTES IN THE BANK. THE QUANTUM OF REPLACEMENT OF OLD CURRENCY NOTES ALSO HAS BEEN DETERMINED WHICH IS Rs 2500 PER DAY TO A MAXIMUM OF Rs. 4500 IN A WEEK. THIS IS QUITE ENOUGH FOR A COUNTRY WHERE THE MONTHLY INCOME OF 95% POPULATION IS BELOW Rs 5000/-. BESIDES THIS THE GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN SOME RELAXATIONS UNDER SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

(5) AS PER THE CRITERIA PROVIDED BY THE GOVERNMENT FOR REPLACEMENT OF Rs 500 and Rs 1000 CURRENCY NOTES, NO PERSON HAVING WHITE MONEY IS GOING TO SUFFER.

(6) THE BLACK MONEY HOLDERS ARE KEEPING THEIR OWN PERSONS IN QUEUES FOR CONVERTING BLACK MONEY INTO WHITE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. FOR THIS REASON, THE LONGER QUEUES ARE OBSERVED. BUT IN A VERY  LARGE SCALE, THE COMMON MEN HAS HAILED THE DEMONETIZATION.

(7) BESIDES NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS AND ITS CULTURAL ALLIED PERSONS, THERE ARE SOME TV CHANNELS AND SOME PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ARE TRYING TO  FLOAT RUMOURS AND CONTROVERSIES TO CONFUSED THE MASS AND TO DEROGATE THE ACTION OF THE PM. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD ARREST THEM AND THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR SPREADING RUMOURS AND OBSTRUCTING THE GOVERNMENT WORK.

(7) AT THIS MOMENT THE BLACK AND FAKE MONEY AVAILABLE IN CURRENCY OF Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 NOTES HAVE BECOME SCRAP. NOW GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE SHOULD TAKE STRICT ACTIONS ON THE BLACK MONEY AVAILABLE ABROAD IN FOREIGN CURRENCY AND IMMOVABLE PROPERTY.

THIS IS MY OBESERVATION.

SHIRISH DAVE   


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2016 3:03 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: India Against Corruption's stand on note demonetisation

To:
All India Against Corruption subscribers, and
the Public at Large

18 November 2016

PUBLIC NOTICE: India Against Corruption's stand on note demonetisation

After extended discussions on IAC's national and regonal networks, the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION declares its position on the recent demonetisation scheme as follows:-

1) That the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION fully supports the demonetisation of currency notes of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1,000 denominations announced on 8.Nov.2016, albeit it taking place 18 months after INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION had demanded this measure from RBI on 6.April.2015 due to rampant fake currency menace affecting common person.

2) That whereas INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION supports Mr. Narendra Modi's action in carrying out this massive financial exercise in secrecy by a few officers of integrity, INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is equally concerned that some elements within Mr. Modi's party and Govt leaked the scheme thereby diluting its effect aganst the black-marketeers, FICN distributors and hawala operators.

3) That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is greatly concerned that aforesaid black-marketeers, FICN distributors and hawala operators are propping up anti-national forces to tap into the increasing public unrest against the poor execution of demonetization scheme on the ground.

4) That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is specifically concerned that haawla operators in the diamond, jewellery and beef export trades etc. which are massively dependent on FICN (fake Indian currency notes) are financing so-called "volunteer" forces to cause disturbances on the streets  INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is especially concerned that IAC's name and impeccable goodwill will be infringed by these anti-national forces to tarnish IAC's reputation through fake volunteers actually from certain political parties opposed to demonetisation.

5) That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION denounces Shri Anna Hazare for stooping so low to be regularly associating with anti-national forces who are connected to beef export rackets and hawala operators. INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION wonders who is actually controlling Shri. Anna Hazare that he is ignoring all the warnings and cautions which INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is regularly sending to him at Anna's official email ID against associating with these anti-national forces.

6) That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION advises its subscribers to be vigilant and report to us any instances of misuse of IAC's name and also the money laundering they observe through banking system, which IAC will report to concerned authorities.

for INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor

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