Dude are we seriously circulating WhatsApp forwards as enlightened discussions now?
To begin with, the part about Kashmir protests being missing is another WhatsApp forward and deliberate misinformation spread by Parrikar. BJP is part of the J&K government and the home ministry data from J&K shows a drop in violence well before demonetisation. And given that there are banks being merrily looted, I doubt the reason is a shortage of cash. Who needs fake notes when they can have the real deal, yes?
When Jayalalitha was in hospital, there were some reports of violence. I am no fan of hers, but it can't be denied that people are profoundly saddened by her death, including a number of people who died in her wake. This can't exactly be faked. Riots can't be held to be a measure of sentiment - who will people riot against? She wasn't murdered. She died of illness. There is no one to protest against.
Highly recommend consuming less political propaganda and turning to observable facts or official data.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Ravichandran Rajamannar <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
An interesting take on Demonetization (content taken from social media) similar to ebbing of violence in KashmirrDid you notice "absence" of something after Jayalalitha death? Whats so clearly missing is something that we usually expect from the "overemotional" Tamil crowd: violent outburst after a leader''s demise. This time no statewide self immolation, burning buses, damaging public property, arson, curfew etc...barring one or two stray instances probably.
So why violence is absent this time which was so pervasive even in recent Cauvery protests? What changed overnight?Some say police did a good job, some say there was enough time for emotions to subside etc. etc But the real reason is the magic of demonetization. No filthy cash available to fund rioting!!Almost every riot and unrest in the country used to be manufactured and funded by black money either to satisfy someone''s ego or serve a vested interest. Otherwise for everyone barring some crackpots, earning a living, taking care of their family and themselves come way up in priority list compared to going up in flames for a corrupt politician.
Just like some suicide bombers get recruited in exchange for a compensation to their poor family, self immolation recruitment would mostly happen in exchange for some cash to family. To prove leader''s popularity. In the most inhuman way.
One move on 8 Nov at 8pm and so many lives get saved to take a better shot at life. Thousands of crores of public property spared from destruction. Demonetization is absolutely an amazing move. Compelling results are already here to see and stay. If Note ban had happened 2 months earlier, even organized arson in Bangalore due to Cauvery dispute may not have happened. We all know that 99% of politicians are corrupt and anti-people regardless of language, religion, caste etc. Modi has dared to take on corrupt forces risking his and his party's future. There will be many stories floating around until he is declared winner or loser. Let us wait for Modi's 30-Dec speech expected to throw more surprises and ensuing UP elections which may be turning point in Indian Politics.Ravi
From: Prodipto Roy <prodipto.r@gmail.com>
To: Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com>; indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] 're stated purpose of notes ban and G. Iyer's comment
Did I get it right? Was there a suggestion that anyone seeing such pavement havala transactions and not reporting them is him/herself abetting corruption? Do you know how high the stakes are here and how much money is being laundered in this way? Don't you know how whistle blowers on minor scams like MNREGA and Vyapam are harassed and even killed in India?All gov't. Banks are in the same game. There is no cash crunch for selected patrons with ruling party connections.According to my limited understanding of the system, having lent out ... crores in NPAs, a euphemism for financial crime, they needed recapitalization, and they are doing this with our money, in order to fund the same crony capitalists that took the first loans, in a "re-adjustment" deal, with kickbacks to the same parties that urged the banks to provide the earlier bad loans, now being written off!The really secret, undemocratic purpose of the exercise will enfold over the next year - signs have emerged already, with the digital/cashless India announcements, the fact that district administrations in BJP states are not attending their normal duties but attending trainings on digitization (except, of course, for land records, the other cash cow), the new incentives to use plastic or mobile payments, the statements of Bill.Gates, Paytm bosses, Reliance Jio, etc applauding Modi, and innumerable other news items.There were party workers in every bus I travelled in in November in Delhi who would surround a person complaining about the futile bank lines they were losing their daily wages for, to reeducate these complainers in true fascist or Maoist fashion. Is this not a well-thought out strategy to deceive citizens and quell public dissent?In any other country everyone would have been out on the streets protesting, as in the Occupy Wall Street movement. As I said, we are a nation of sheep, and those who live by daily labour cannot spend time in protests.(Smt) Joya Roy
On 9 Dec 2016 12:00, "Gopalkrishnan iyer" <iyer_ga@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> It is quite surprising at the same time unnerving! Someone, appearing to be educated and well versed, claiming to fight corruption continue criticizing the govt. in spite of having seen personally people exchanging new and old notes did not try to bring to the notice of appropriate authorities, even PM's! That in itself, in a way is aiding and abetting corruption! It is natural that 1.25 million will have many more times the idea and thoughts but only a few can enforce the ideas for which one has to win over in a democracy! There is no point in getting frustrated for not doing a thing to the liking of a particular individual or group!
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> In a democracy expecting the ruling government to conduct governance/business as dictated by a lost opposition, much less by parties who appeared to have sunk their hands deep into unfathomable corruption! Having "ruled" the country for well over 60 years congress forgets that they are not in power today and they are duty bound to allow a party which has an unquestionable majority to conduct the business!
>
>
> On Thursday, 8 December 2016 10:15 PM, OM KANOONGO <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
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>
> Mr. Joya Roy,
> In order to appreciate your views, it is important to know from you what are the unholy, secret, long term and undemocratic aims of the leadership.
>
> CA. O P Kanoongo
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>> On Thu, 8 Dec, 2016 at 15:44, Prodipto Roy
>> <prodipto.r@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am quite convinced that the elimination of black money stated as the purpose of the notes ban was just another JUMLA, like bringing back untaxed monies in foreign havens and distributing it to all Indians.
>> A nation of sheep and unthinking fools had accepted this as the true purpose. But right near my house, a young man sitting on the pavement with just a mobile in hand is earning over Rs 40,000/day changing people's old notes for new, including large sums from third parties. The money is delivered at a point three-four removes from the man who receives the old notes.
>> I now believe the very setting up of the Jan Dhan accounts was a well'thought out part of the whole exercize. And the divulging of prior information to BJP's friends and cadres so that they may secure their finances while the rest of the country is plunged into penury is just an example of how far the dastardly leadership is capable of going to get its unholy, secret, long term, undemocratic aims fulfilled.
>> Joya Roy
>> On 8 Dec 2016 08:57, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> To:
>>> The Hon'ble Union Finance Minister of India (Shri Arun Jaitley)
>>> <fmo@nic.in>
>>> <smn.dash@nic.in> [Please put up to Hon'ble Finance Minister since his official email ID is overflowing with spam]
>>>
>>> cc: Shri Urjit Patel / Governor Reserve Bank of India <governor@rbi.org.in>,
>>> <rgoyal@rbi.org.in> [Please put up to Hon'ble Governor RBI since his official email ID is overflowing with spam]
>>>
>>> BY EMAIL
>>>
>>> Respected Sirs
>>>
>>> URGENT QUERIES concerning SBN withdrawal
>>>
>>> On 8th Nov 2016 the Hon'ble Prime Minister announced the withdrawal of legal tender status to certain high value notes on the recommendations of the Central Board of Reserve Bank of India.
>>>
>>> There is some confusion in the public mind about the role and status of one Dr. Nachiket Mor in this process, causing the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION to seek urgent clarity from your offices and considering that as far back as 6 April 2015 the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION had formally complained to the RBI about prevalance of huge quantities MG series counterfeit notes and demanded their immediate demonetisation / replacement.
>>>
>>> It appears from the website of the RBI that Dr. Nachiket Mor is presently a Central Govt. nominee u/s 8(1)(b) of RBI Act to the RBI's Central Board.
>>>
>>> https://www.rbi.org.in/ scripts/aboutusdisplay.aspx
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/mvmYq
>>>
>>> It appears from the RBI website that Dr. Nachiket Mor attended the 560th meeting of the RBI Central Board on 20 Oct. 2016 at Kanpur where "The Board reviewed the current economic situation, global and domestic challenges and other specific areas of operations of the Reserve Bank of India."
>>>
>>> https://m.rbi.org.in/scripts/ BS_PressReleaseDisplay.aspx? prid=38359
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/hqxIA
>>>
>>> Shortly thereafter this meeting various Hindi newspapers of Kanpur and Uttar Pradesh published that Rs. 500 and Rs.1,000 SBN MG series notes were being demonetised.
>>>
>>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/ india-news/journalist-broke- story-about-currency- demonetisation-a-fortnight- back/story- 3OpgtR5ehdzkRRrwQITLgK.html
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/BbzZz
>>>
>>> Concerning Dr. Nachiket Mor,
>>>
>>> On or about 28 September 2015 Hon'ble Prime Minister met Shri Bill Gates in USA.
>>>
>>> In December 2015 the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announced "Nachiket (Mor) recently joined the foundation as Senior Advisor. He is an Indian banker. He is a former member of the Central Board of the Reserve Bank of India. He is known for his inventions of financial devices to deliver banking service to villages and contribution in trying to solve India's financial inclusion problem."
>>>
>>> http://www.impatientoptimists. org/Authors/M/Nachiket-Mor
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/qc2F7
>>>
>>> Thereafter it was clarified in the media that Dr. Mor would be taking over as Director (India Office) Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation wef March 2016 which reports again describe that Nachiket Mor was a former member of RBI's board.
>>>
>>> http://www.indiainfoline.com/ article/news-top-story/ nachiket-mor-to-head-bill- melinda-gates-foundation-in- india-116031600220_1.html
>>> archived at http://archive.is/jVi8R
>>>
>>> The RBI website, however, makes no mention of Dr. Nachiket Mor's connection with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
>>>
>>> https://rbi.org.in/scripts/bs_ viewcontent.aspx?Id=2682
>>> archived at http://archive.is/959aD
>>>
>>> Accordingly the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is deeply interested to know the true facts between Dr. Nachiketa Mor's participation in the various Central Board meetings of Reserve Bank of India which recommended demonetisation when all the while he was employed by Bill Gates and Melinda Gates and had aparently suppresed his affiliations from the Central Government / Reserve Bank and which ultimately led to the "demonetization" scheme being published in advance by the Kanpur based journalist.
>>>
>>> We would also urge you to kindly immediately place the complete records of the 560th RBI Central Board meeting at Kanpur as well as the special meeting of the Board on 8th Nov 2016 in the public domain so that the citizens of India are properly informed about the deliberations of the RBI's Central Board and its recommendations for withdrawal of the SBN (specified bank notes).
>>>
>>> Kindly treat this matter as very urgent.
>>>
>>> sincerely
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarbajit Roy
>>> National Convenor
>>> INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan
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>>> New Delhi 110024
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