Dear Girendra
Yes. Although I see you accept that IAC is for "genius people" and AAP then must be for duffers, I must correct you to say that IAC is not working for "common" people. It is the AAP which claims to be working for common people.
A common man is concerned about where his next meal will come from, that his woman has to go out at 3:00 am to fetch water, that nobody will care if his teen daughter is raped or lifted while coming back from school, that he will not be evicted under bulldozers and so on. Such common man cannot question Govt DIRECTLY. He must either go through intermediaries (touts) or as part of a mob. IAC (as a principled disciplined intellectual aspect of HRA does not take money) does not have any space for this kind of mob or touting activity. Neither do we offer "IAC franchises" to anybody to conduct this kind of stuff for us.
Before I reply to your rhetorical queries, let me pose a few of mine to you which are factual.
1) Is it not true that all persons actually connected with IAC agree that no money was collected in name of IAC ?
2) Is it not the inherent weakness and frustration of some foreign financed haramis that they were not allowed by HRA to collect even 1 paisa in name of IAC which impelled them to form a political party (which BTW is tax exempt and nobody can question how money is spent) ?
3) Is it not true that Team-PCRF (Arvind, Manish, Prashant Bhushan, Kiran Bedi etc.) amassed crores of rupees in name of JanLokPal andolan which they deliberately confused the public (and later even their auditors) was same as the simultaneous India Against Corruption andolan which was exclusively against CWG-2010 corruption ?
4) Is it not a fact that India Against Corruption name was first proposed for the anti-CWG 2010 scam agitation in February 2007 by Sarbajit Roy and negotiations with the owners (who were known to Sarbajit Roy as part of Adi Dharm politics) started later in April 2007.
5) Is it not a fact that the above discussion of point No. 4 took place publicly outside Central Information Commission's office in context of the Writ Petition filed by Veeresh Malik after his CIC order dt. 28.11.2006 holding IOA (Indian Olympic Association) to be a public authority. And there was also a personal appeal made the previous day by a respected (now deceased) RTI guruji that India's best RTI experts should join together as "5 Pandavas" to fight/unearth CWG scams, and set aside their differences as 5 fingers to form 1 fist against Congress hand.
6) Does anybody credible deny that there had been a public spat involving Sarbajit Roy, Ms.Gita Dewan Verma, Rajinder Singh and about 20 local villagers on one side and Manish Sisodia, Arvind Kejriwal and some 30 RTI activists on the other side which took place just 2 days before the said discussion, and for which the police was called in, and Veeresh Malik acted as the mediator to get the complaint diluted to remove the SC/ST Atrocities Act charges for a highly offensive remark made by an RTI activist present outside Arvind's illegal tent.
7) Does anybody deny that as a result of that guru appeal (see point no.4) Sarbajit Roy later assisted Veeresh Malik to get the judgment from Delhi High Court on 07.01.2010 holding Indian Olympic Association (IOA) and Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) as being under RTI Act.
8) Does anybody else from either the present AAP or erstwhile Team Anna Hazare claim that THEY had even the smallest role in getting that High Court decision (or any comparable order) or filed even 1 of the 700+ coordinated RTIs which took place under scope of Veeresh Malik's judgment ?
9) Is it not true that on 18.10.2010 or suchlike when the first formal meeting allegedly took place and where Arvind Kejriwal claims to have invented the name of "India Against Corruption", the persons calling that meeting included NAC members Aruna Roy and Harsh Mander (both prominent foreign financed Congress lapdogs of NAC Chairperson Sonia Gandhi), and also Swami "Vepa Rao" @Agnivesh another well Congress poodle close to Diggy Singh ? Is it not true that Kejriwal then (as now) was very much Aruna Roy's poodle (a poodle is a small sort of "Hitler" dog which yaps a lot and nips at the ankles in return for scraps of food thrown to it).
10) Is it not true that there was another meeting held deliberately on 'Nehru Diwas' ie. 14.11.2010 near Jantar Mantar wherein a prominent MKSS person suggested that Arvind's existing registered NGO "Public Cause Research Foundation" could act as the secretariat of "India Against Corruption" and told Arvind to book the domain indiaagainstcorruption.org immediately, and which was done on 17.11.2010 ?
11) Is it not true that said MKSS person laughingly assured the assembly that there would be absolutely no shortage of funds for the andolan, as BJP liked persons like Baba Ramdev, Sitaram Jindal, Art of Living, RSS etc were on-board for arranging money and necessary manpower to make the andolan a success. Is it not also true that Aruna Roy's chief event sponsor Baba Ramdev demanded to be described as Swami Ramdev to maintain his status on par with Vepa Rao.
12) Is not true that in Oct 2010 it was NAC poodle #2 Harsh Mander who leaked the draft Lokpal Bill (long in cold storage) as a device to divert the public ire away from CWG scams and into Jan Lokpal. It is not as though IAC generated the public ire against CWG, it was the other way around - the public ire against CWG generated IAC.
13) Please see all the photos of first public meetings at below link, and honestly say if this andolan was then about CWG-2010 scams or about Lokpal Bill ?
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.131812086872751.34597.107805679273392&type=1
14) Is it not true that it was GSSB (Gandhian Sewa Satyagraha Brigade) and not IAC which was on relay fast for Lokpal Bill since 1.Jan.2011, and which fast on 30.01.2011 was converted into "fast unto death" for Lokpal Bill, and which put so much fear into Congress Party crisis managers that PCRF's agents Prashant Bhushan, Kiran Bedi, Agnivesh, Kejriwal etc. went and cried crocodile tears and touched feet of Shambhu Dutt Sharmaji (age 93) and begged him to call off his satyagraha,and assured him that "IAC" would take over the demand for Lokpal Bill and Anna Hazare (actually a well known actor and "professional" faster) would instead go on "fast unto death". NB: Justice K.N.Nath (the President of GSSB) or Ashok Aroraji (Secy GSSB) can correct me of I am wrong on any point here for how PCRF hijacked their LokPal Bill movement.
BTW. Shambhu Duttji later publicly and repeatedly announced he was misled by these goons, fraudies and professional con-artists
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/anna-battle-why-shambhu-dutt-feels-betrayed/20110819.htm
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/gandhian-regrets-relegating-lokpal-movement-to-team-anna-147800
15) So who, as per you, were the people who diverted the jan andolan of 2011 from ACCOUNTABILITY for CWG-2010 into cul-de-sac of Lokpal Bill and brought in Anna Hazare to sideline noble people like Shambhu Dutt, if not the foreign financed traitors and Congress/BJP poodles ? In hindsight do you deny Shambhuji's reported words ?
16) Is it not true that from 3.Feb.2011 the so-called Team Anna, having got Shambhu Dutt Sharma out of the way, then instantly become political and revealed themselves as a BJP front outfit fronted by RSS sleeper moles like Anna Hazare (who was then a national nobody) and Arvind Kejriwal? And they later tasted their first big money by prostituting name/banner of IAC in Arvind's hometown Hisar in Oct 2011 for Kuldeep Bishnoi.
17) Is it not true that Arvind Kejriwal had always till then masqueraded as a Congress poodle hanging around for small favours and scraps (like staying in Delhi with his wife for 20 years in violation of all Rules) ? And that on 30.01.2011 he and Anna were only "sideys" --> see this image [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/164799_150197698367523_5899617_n.jpg] where danseuse Mallika Sarabhai is given central prominence
18) Is it not true that the same Mallika Sarabhai (and other "secularists") was so furious when Anna Hazare publicly endorsed Narendra Modi from IAC's platform, she openly withdrew from IAC in April 2011 accusing Anna "Your endorsement is appalling and we will be forced to distance ourselves from the Lokpal movement unless it is irrevocably retracted". (which they did not)
19) So now do you understand why "A vote for AAP is a vote for Congress" ?.
Yes. Although I see you accept that IAC is for "genius people" and AAP then must be for duffers, I must correct you to say that IAC is not working for "common" people. It is the AAP which claims to be working for common people.
A common man is concerned about where his next meal will come from, that his woman has to go out at 3:00 am to fetch water, that nobody will care if his teen daughter is raped or lifted while coming back from school, that he will not be evicted under bulldozers and so on. Such common man cannot question Govt DIRECTLY. He must either go through intermediaries (touts) or as part of a mob. IAC (as a principled disciplined intellectual aspect of HRA does not take money) does not have any space for this kind of mob or touting activity. Neither do we offer "IAC franchises" to anybody to conduct this kind of stuff for us.
Before I reply to your rhetorical queries, let me pose a few of mine to you which are factual.
1) Is it not true that all persons actually connected with IAC agree that no money was collected in name of IAC ?
2) Is it not the inherent weakness and frustration of some foreign financed haramis that they were not allowed by HRA to collect even 1 paisa in name of IAC which impelled them to form a political party (which BTW is tax exempt and nobody can question how money is spent) ?
3) Is it not true that Team-PCRF (Arvind, Manish, Prashant Bhushan, Kiran Bedi etc.) amassed crores of rupees in name of JanLokPal andolan which they deliberately confused the public (and later even their auditors) was same as the simultaneous India Against Corruption andolan which was exclusively against CWG-2010 corruption ?
4) Is it not a fact that India Against Corruption name was first proposed for the anti-CWG 2010 scam agitation in February 2007 by Sarbajit Roy and negotiations with the owners (who were known to Sarbajit Roy as part of Adi Dharm politics) started later in April 2007.
5) Is it not a fact that the above discussion of point No. 4 took place publicly outside Central Information Commission's office in context of the Writ Petition filed by Veeresh Malik after his CIC order dt. 28.11.2006 holding IOA (Indian Olympic Association) to be a public authority. And there was also a personal appeal made the previous day by a respected (now deceased) RTI guruji that India's best RTI experts should join together as "5 Pandavas" to fight/unearth CWG scams, and set aside their differences as 5 fingers to form 1 fist against Congress hand.
6) Does anybody credible deny that there had been a public spat involving Sarbajit Roy, Ms.Gita Dewan Verma, Rajinder Singh and about 20 local villagers on one side and Manish Sisodia, Arvind Kejriwal and some 30 RTI activists on the other side which took place just 2 days before the said discussion, and for which the police was called in, and Veeresh Malik acted as the mediator to get the complaint diluted to remove the SC/ST Atrocities Act charges for a highly offensive remark made by an RTI activist present outside Arvind's illegal tent.
7) Does anybody deny that as a result of that guru appeal (see point no.4) Sarbajit Roy later assisted Veeresh Malik to get the judgment from Delhi High Court on 07.01.2010 holding Indian Olympic Association (IOA) and Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) as being under RTI Act.
8) Does anybody else from either the present AAP or erstwhile Team Anna Hazare claim that THEY had even the smallest role in getting that High Court decision (or any comparable order) or filed even 1 of the 700+ coordinated RTIs which took place under scope of Veeresh Malik's judgment ?
9) Is it not true that on 18.10.2010 or suchlike when the first formal meeting allegedly took place and where Arvind Kejriwal claims to have invented the name of "India Against Corruption", the persons calling that meeting included NAC members Aruna Roy and Harsh Mander (both prominent foreign financed Congress lapdogs of NAC Chairperson Sonia Gandhi), and also Swami "Vepa Rao" @Agnivesh another well Congress poodle close to Diggy Singh ? Is it not true that Kejriwal then (as now) was very much Aruna Roy's poodle (a poodle is a small sort of "Hitler" dog which yaps a lot and nips at the ankles in return for scraps of food thrown to it).
10) Is it not true that there was another meeting held deliberately on 'Nehru Diwas' ie. 14.11.2010 near Jantar Mantar wherein a prominent MKSS person suggested that Arvind's existing registered NGO "Public Cause Research Foundation" could act as the secretariat of "India Against Corruption" and told Arvind to book the domain indiaagainstcorruption.org immediately, and which was done on 17.11.2010 ?
11) Is it not true that said MKSS person laughingly assured the assembly that there would be absolutely no shortage of funds for the andolan, as BJP liked persons like Baba Ramdev, Sitaram Jindal, Art of Living, RSS etc were on-board for arranging money and necessary manpower to make the andolan a success. Is it not also true that Aruna Roy's chief event sponsor Baba Ramdev demanded to be described as Swami Ramdev to maintain his status on par with Vepa Rao.
12) Is not true that in Oct 2010 it was NAC poodle #2 Harsh Mander who leaked the draft Lokpal Bill (long in cold storage) as a device to divert the public ire away from CWG scams and into Jan Lokpal. It is not as though IAC generated the public ire against CWG, it was the other way around - the public ire against CWG generated IAC.
13) Please see all the photos of first public meetings at below link, and honestly say if this andolan was then about CWG-2010 scams or about Lokpal Bill ?
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.131812086872751.34597.107805679273392&type=1
14) Is it not true that it was GSSB (Gandhian Sewa Satyagraha Brigade) and not IAC which was on relay fast for Lokpal Bill since 1.Jan.2011, and which fast on 30.01.2011 was converted into "fast unto death" for Lokpal Bill, and which put so much fear into Congress Party crisis managers that PCRF's agents Prashant Bhushan, Kiran Bedi, Agnivesh, Kejriwal etc. went and cried crocodile tears and touched feet of Shambhu Dutt Sharmaji (age 93) and begged him to call off his satyagraha,and assured him that "IAC" would take over the demand for Lokpal Bill and Anna Hazare (actually a well known actor and "professional" faster) would instead go on "fast unto death". NB: Justice K.N.Nath (the President of GSSB) or Ashok Aroraji (Secy GSSB) can correct me of I am wrong on any point here for how PCRF hijacked their LokPal Bill movement.
BTW. Shambhu Duttji later publicly and repeatedly announced he was misled by these goons, fraudies and professional con-artists
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/anna-battle-why-shambhu-dutt-feels-betrayed/20110819.htm
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/gandhian-regrets-relegating-lokpal-movement-to-team-anna-147800
15) So who, as per you, were the people who diverted the jan andolan of 2011 from ACCOUNTABILITY for CWG-2010 into cul-de-sac of Lokpal Bill and brought in Anna Hazare to sideline noble people like Shambhu Dutt, if not the foreign financed traitors and Congress/BJP poodles ? In hindsight do you deny Shambhuji's reported words ?
"Team Anna and particularly Arvind Kejriwal has lost the credibility in the eyes of those who know the inside story. The core committee is full of all yes men and there is no substance in the committee. The excesses and transgresses will prove to be undoing of Hazare's campaign."
16) Is it not true that from 3.Feb.2011 the so-called Team Anna, having got Shambhu Dutt Sharma out of the way, then instantly become political and revealed themselves as a BJP front outfit fronted by RSS sleeper moles like Anna Hazare (who was then a national nobody) and Arvind Kejriwal? And they later tasted their first big money by prostituting name/banner of IAC in Arvind's hometown Hisar in Oct 2011 for Kuldeep Bishnoi.
17) Is it not true that Arvind Kejriwal had always till then masqueraded as a Congress poodle hanging around for small favours and scraps (like staying in Delhi with his wife for 20 years in violation of all Rules) ? And that on 30.01.2011 he and Anna were only "sideys" --> see this image [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/164799_150197698367523_5899617_n.jpg] where danseuse Mallika Sarabhai is given central prominence
18) Is it not true that the same Mallika Sarabhai (and other "secularists") was so furious when Anna Hazare publicly endorsed Narendra Modi from IAC's platform, she openly withdrew from IAC in April 2011 accusing Anna "Your endorsement is appalling and we will be forced to distance ourselves from the Lokpal movement unless it is irrevocably retracted". (which they did not)
19) So now do you understand why "A vote for AAP is a vote for Congress" ?.
20) Is it not true that the transition and divisions between IAC and AAP during Oct-Dec 2012 was handled very smoothly to ensure that space for inner democracy exists and distinct identity of both formations (apolitical and political) is retained ?
Sarbajit
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Girender Singh <girinder_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Sarabjeet,
> Thanks for your reply regarding IAC, for IAC and on behalf of IAC.
> There is no doubt at all that you peoples are the genius guys and working for the welfare of common peoples of India and also patriotic citizens!
> Would you be agree that --
> -- The IAC came in the notice of peoples when 2010 andolan was organized at large scale in Delhi.
> -- The supporters and volunteers themselves join the hand with IAC.
> -- When IAC get the support of the volunteers and citizens it become much known to Indian peoples as well as to the foreigners.
> -- IAC become famous at towns & village level throughout India and abroad too.
> -- IAC was a non-political move in starting but when there was no outcome from dharna's then IAC openly went against Congress.
> -- What IAC get acknowledgements from people was the same IAC and everybody (including Arvind Kejriwal) was the part of IAC.
> -- It was a common decision after there was not outcome of a long fight and dharnas till 2012 (all common) to give it a political name (at the time of declaration Anna and Gen. Singh was with Arvind).
> -- The formation of a political party was not a decision of Arvind only but of Anna too (in the instance that he will be a neutral).
> -- Now, How IAC could go in the hands of few peoples (although we don't have any objections) and where is that IAC about which I talked point to point above.
> Would you please satisfy me that is this the same IAC (if yes) then without Anna... and if (with Anna) then why it goes so slow and uniffective in the absence of Arvind & Party?
> The question is not that I should quit (as volunteer) from IAC or not? The question is that what has been the aim of IAC in further course of action.
> regards
> Girendra Singh, New Delhi
>
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