Re: [IAC#RG] Future direction of the India Against Corruption movement

Dear All, 

Greetings. 

It is a human weakness to hear/see what is palatable.

How come nobody notices the genesis of Corruption. DELAY CAUSES CORRUPTION.

Prompt ness is Divine ie Prompt action/prompt judgement/prompt alleviation of misery and pain/ prompt redressal of grievances/prompt attention to detail. Promptness is , " Chaitanya" and the opposite , "Jadatwa" ie SLOTH is sinful.

Destroy Delay, accountability will ensure a fair deal.

TTK

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013, Sainik Sangh wrote:

Friends

This is a very important input and even an understatement on how corruption can be bred and systematically proliferated  through   ignorance , misinformation , disinformation,  disabuse  when people do not have the right tools to counter these . With we coming of age in IT there should be a profusion in its application to close information and truth voids , bringing sense of security to the large masses who are still left without any exposure to this  let alone have such tools accessible to them. Here the State which seems to have abrogated its role has to step in as private sector may have little interest  .

Vipen is right about moral decay but this is largely as education let alone moral has been smashed   at all levels in Indian society spurred only for fitting itself in market culture which may spell its doom too ! While so we seem to deliberately overlook the model of democracy we practice which to my mind is the mother of all corruption . When we accept a system that requires money bags as tender for representing will of the people then how will this collection be recouped ? The impact of this is all pervasive down to defiling our very  life style. The more multiparty we become closer to cliff.

chauhan  

 

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Vipen Mahajan
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:31 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Future direction of the India Against Corruption movement

 

Friends,

As a Management & IT guy, who has been using IT for improving management/administration or governance in India, Europe and the US, for over 45 years, who has been into Civil Society since 2005, and participated in the sittings in Ram Lilla grounds, Jantar Mantar etc, my take is:

1. Corruption has been rising, and now at an exponential rate, it was much less after Independence and even as late as the Sixty's 90% of the bureaucracy was not corrupt, about 10% black-sheep existed, and everyone knew who they were, so to an extent social pressures worked. Even as late as the 80's, DD had a popular serial, "Rajani", some of who will remember, a fiery women leader who fought all kinds of injustice incl corruption.

2. Today 90% are black sheep, and it surprises you when you come across, one of the 10%, who does the work he is meant to do, with humility and helpfulness,without any coercion or bribe.

3. Have you wondered why we have this menace of corruption? Is it moral decay, yes to an extent. However the BIGGEST CAUSE is dysfunctional organization/structure, processes and systems. This is caused by design or on purpose, or by incompetence/ignorance, or just that the older system was NOT designed to tackles today's problems and no one knows, or bothers to know that things can change.

4. So when you see in real life that if anybody has to get anywhere, or anything, he/she has to break the rules (laws even?), and find some way to get his things done, because if he waits for the legal/proper way it should get done it does NOT. SO he gradually starts ignoring the laws/system, and finds shortcuts to bypass the system. Ofcourse these shortcuts, are done at a price to society, but who cares ? Atleast not the people who want to aggrandize themselves (Netas and Babus esp), will ensure that the laws and the formal system are not functional, or continue to be dysfunctional. SO they DEFINITELY WILL RESIST/OPPOSE GOVERNANCE IMPROVEMENT OR REFORMS.

5. That said let us not under-estimate the issues, hurdles and problems in change, and obviously the people who gain from a corrupt system will not let it function or get improved.

6. However with pervasiveness of IT and communications, the cellphone, and now smartphone and Tablet revolutions, things can change. Methods, approaches, and solutions to changing govt etc, processes, and re-organization have evolved. For more details, see these links from our web site:
http://www.indiaahead.net/wiki/
http://www.indiaahead.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Governance+for+India
http://www.indiaahead.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Information+Technology
http://www.indiaahead.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Transformation+into+21st+Century
http://www.indiaahead.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Introduction+to+Social+Networking

I can help people, NGOs, Civl Soc setups to conceive, develop, implement and  leverage IT to build their own private (unlike public like Facebook, Google etc), social net working sites, to organize there memberships to go to the next stage of collaboration from email, to group lists, to static web sites, even where there is no proper Internet availability (80% of Indian population !)

As an Civil Soc activists, I would like to share my knowhow, for our Country.

Vipen Mahajan

Perhaps IAC is an exception.

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