RE: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

16/5/13
 
In my opinion the word ,Bande, is being twisted to mean bowing or praying. It is a simple word of salutation. When one says Bande Matram, one has not to bow literally.
Besides the concept of land one belongs to has a sense of reverence, repect and duty to protect. If it was not so how do you explain the concept of Holy lands for the Muslim, christians and jews.Again, in some countries they call it MOTHERLAND AND IN oTHERS iIT IS FATHERLAND.But universally the sense of possession,reverence and
will to protect  and prosper exists.
Let us not go to the literal meanings of word Vande/Bande but the feelings behind it.
JKGaur
 
 
 

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Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:40 +0530
From: wadoodsajid@gmail.com
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I agree with Rina that Muslim Indians describe India as MADAR_E WATAN.

but what is the meaning of Madare watan?

Madar is mother. its a Persian word. and of course mother is respected by every one. but she is not worshiped at all. 

I am not defending or abusing the under question MP. but i would humbly request to all pl understand the sensitivity of the faith he belongs to.

 Islam strictly direct its followers to have integrity to their motherland. so try to differentiate between motherland and God.

Regards

Sajid  

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, rina mukherji <rina_mukherji@yahoo.com> wrote:

When several Muslims have no objection to referring to India as Maadarevatan, what is the objection to Vande Mataram, pray? He ought to be punished for this, and banned from Parliament.

 

Rina Mukherji

 

Kolkata

From: R.K.Gupta <hr.sasgroup@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

We should hang such people irrespective of caste&creed who don't pay respect to our National Anthem or they should be asked to leave the country and citizenship should be withdrawn. 

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Veerendra Jaitly <jaitly.iit@gmail.com> wrote:

It is sad that some people find it difficult to sing even a few lines in the praise of our own motherland. 

'Vande Matram' is a great song which at one time united all Indians irrespective of caste, creed and religion. 

With modernization, some people are becoming more and more fanatic and less flexible.

rgds

VK Jaitly 

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Sack MPs who don't respect National Song 

No matter what his reservations may have been against the National Song, by disdainfully walking out of Parliament when Vande Mataram was being played, BSP leader Shafiqur Rahman Barq has insulted the country. Such an affront to the nation, that too delivered inside the hallowed halls of Parliament — the sanctum sanctorum of democracy, cannot be tolerated. Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar has taken note of the incident, but the matter must not be allowed to rest there. The offending MP's membership to the lower House must be cancelled and his political boss would do well to severely reprimand him. Not only has Mr Barq committed sacrilege, he has shown no remorse for his despicable behaviour. Instead, the little known MP from Moradabad has defended his actions in the name of 'religious freedom' and 'secularism'. That the two have absolutely nothing to do with respecting one's motherland is clearly a concept that is alien to Mr Barq, who has argued that since rendering Vande Mataram is the equivalent of paying 'homage to a Hindu idol', he, as a true Muslim, cannot 'worship' anyone else apart from Allah. The fallacious nature of his argument apart, the fact remains that Mr Barq had no business dragging his religious beliefs into Parliament, where he has come not as a representive of a religious community. Moreover, if he really felt so strongly about the National Song, he had other ways to register his concern. He could have, for instance, stood aside while the song was being played. But by walking out, Mr Barq sought cheap publicity through the use of his religious identity. But this is not the first time that Mr Barq has played the Muslim card; he had opposed the BSP's 'Jai Bhim' slogan too.

This is also not the first time that Vande Mataram has been criticised for being 'anti-Islamic'. This manufactured controversy goes back to the turbulent decades of the 1930s and 1940s when the country's emergent Muslim leadership was seeking to consolidate its own political base vis-à-vis that of the Congress. By that time, Vande Mataram — Bankim Chandra Chattopadhay's powerful paen to the motherland which had bound the national conscience, Hindus and Muslims alike, during the 1905 Bengal partition — was already being sung at the opening of all Congress sessions. However, when the party wanted to make the song the national anthem, some Muslim leaders objected. In 1937, a sub-committee that included Jawaharlal Nehru and Subhas Chandra Bose reviewed the song, and for the first time in the 1938 Haripura session, only the first two stanzas were played. Even that did little to placate the likes of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, who demanded the song be scrapped.

But while that did not happen, Vande Mataram has remained the favourite punching bag of communal leaders. In 2006, the song's centenary celebrations were hampered after some Muslims complained against a Union Government directive asking all schools to sing the song on September 7. A supine Congress leadership in New Delhi buckled before them, as it had earlier. The question now is: Will it be any different this time around or will Shafiqur Rahman Barq get away with his shocking irreverance?

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