Re: [HumJanenge] Re: New 500 words Rule

The clear reading of this rule is as follows:-

a) 150 words will be counted like a "telegram", ie. name, address of
applicant and receiver are both included.

b) Applicant can ask several queries but confined to 1 subject.

Actually, if used correctly this will benefit both the applicant as
well as the Public Authority.

Say.

15 words each for name & Address of applicant + PIO = 30 words
20 words for subject matter
100 words for say 5 queries (@ 20 words each)

It will also trim out many of the people who use RTI for their
grievance / service matters.

Sarbajit

On 10/30/12, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Er. Sarbajit,
> Reproduced the Inserted Rule 14 in our State
> 14 REQUEST RELATE ONLY TO SINGLE SUBJECT MATTER
>
> A request in writing for information under section 6 of the Act shall relate
> in subject matter and it shall not ordinarily exceed one hundred and fifty
> words . If an applicant wishes to seek information on more than one subject
> matter , he shall make seprate applications.
> Provided that in case, the request made relates to more than one subject
> matter ,the PIO may respond to the relating to the first subject matter only
> and may advise the applicant to make seprate application for each of the
> other subject matters.*
> * Inserted by Karnataka Right to information (amendement)rules 2007 vide
> Notification No DPAR 2 RTI 2007 dated 13/02.2007
>
> N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road ,
> Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 29/10/12, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: New 500 words Rule
>> To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005"
>> <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Monday, 29 October, 2012, 7:30 PM
>> Hi Vikram
>>
>> I dont have the wording of the Karnataka RTI Rule before me.
>> Was it
>> 150 words ?
>> Under new Central DoPT Rules, address of applicant and PIO
>> is counted
>> in 500 words.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Oct 29, 6:25 pm, Vikram Simha <vikramsimh...@yahoo.co.in>
>> wrote:
>> > Elaborate Point no 2 . In oyr state we have Argued
>> before KIC that Address do not Form part ihe Body Seeking
>> Information
>> > N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna
>> Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 29/10/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: New 500 words Rule
>> > > To: "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>,
>> tnkeea...@yahoo.co.in
>> > > Date: Monday, 29 October, 2012, 5:48 AM
>> > > Dear Krish
>> >
>> > > 1) The RTI application cannot be "rejected" ONLY
>> on the
>> > > ground that it
>> > > contains more than 500 words. So the answer to
>> your question
>> > > is YES, a
>> > > CPIO can reject it along with another reason IF
>> (and only
>> > > if) that
>> > > other reason is a valid reason for rejection (like
>> new Rule
>> > > 9,
>> > > insufficient / excess fee etc).
>> >
>> > > 2) The answer to your question is YES. An RTI
>> application
>> > > must
>> > > ORDINARILY be within 500 words (which INCLUDES the
>> name and
>> > > address of
>> > > CPIO and applicant). So for a RTI containing 1375
>> words the
>> > > PIO can
>> > > demand Rs 30 as application fee by treating it as
>> 3
>> > > applications. Note
>> > > that he is not "rejecting it"
>> >
>> > > 3) The FAA ought not to reject it. OTH the CIC can
>> do
>> > > anything
>> > > (including reject it if they feel the application
>> was
>> > > frivolous,
>> > > vexatious, etc etc)
>> >
>> > > Sarbajit
>> >
>> > > On 10/28/12, TNK <tnkeea...@yahoo.co.in>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > The recent rule dated 31st July 2012
>> restrict
>> > > applications with 500 words.
>> >
>> > > > In the same rule says that no application to
>> be
>> > > rejected only on the ground
>> > > > that it exceeds 500 words.
>> >
>> > > > My doubts:-
>> >
>> > > > 1. Can PIO rejects the application with some
>> other
>> > > reason along with the
>> > > > reason of "more than 500 words"?
>> >
>> > > > 2. Theses restriction included in the heading
>> of
>> > > Application fee. Can PIO
>> > > > demand more fee as the application is more
>> than 500
>> > > words.
>> >
>> > > > 3. Application not to be rejected by PIO on
>> this 500
>> > > words ground. Thus FAA
>> > > > or CIC can reject on this ground?
>> >
>> > > > Andaman Krish
>>
>