Re: [HumJanenge] Just One Mischief Can Cripple A Nations Economy Destroy Civilization– Lokpal (C)

Hats off to your narration of incidents (I dont know for what purpose and what conclusions can be dran from them) and conclusions you have drawn there on!!

 

You just ignored to mention that during Emergency time of Smt Indira Gandhi in India there was no corruption from the day one - everybody worked - aam janatha was very happy - subsequently it degenerated is a different issue.

 

Since the bigining civiliziation all scriptures including Vedas have preached - "Satyam Vada", "Dharmam Chara" - Has anything happened? Can you honestly and sincerely say that you are following? - Everything SHOULD be done - a wishful thiking to all others (except me).

From: Ravinder Singh <corruptionfree04@gmail.com>
To: Ravinder Singh <progressindia008@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 1:17 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Just One Mischief Can Cripple A Nations Economy Destroy Civilization– Lokpal (C)

Just One Mischief Can Cripple A Nations Economy Destroy Civilization– Lokpal (C)

 

Dear Sarbjit Roy,

This is in response to Humjanege Message on Lokpal

 

Recent History

 

Kuwait / Afghanistan Invasions

 

1. We require just one Saddam Invasion of Kuwait to drive a rift between too largest communities (Christians and Muslims) in the world spanning across globe who had together just months earlier defeated Communists invasion of Afghanistan.

 

Indira Gandhi Dethroned

 

2. Indira Gandhi campaigned in Rae Bareili for just Three Days or 12hx3 days compared to united opposition supporting her opponent Raj Narain 24hx30 days. But she defeated Raj Narain by huge margin. Indira Gandhi polled 183309 votes to Raj Narain 71499 Votes and they together polled 92% votes. Her party won 352 seats and 43.68% votes. (Vote share of other Parties in 1971 was BJS 7.35%, CPI 4.73%, CPM 5.12%, NCO 10.43%, PSP 1.04%, SSP, 2.43%, SWA 3.07%, BKD 2.18%, DMK 3.84%, - less than 1% votes ignored).

 

There was no Second Choice or Mandate Yet

 

But Shanti Bhushan bribed connived with judge and some home ministry officials to club security expenses as her poll expenses and 'Dethroned Her and Barred Her From Contesting Elections for Six Years' – There was No Time Allowed to Appeal for Supreme Court or Full Bench of High Court to review or confirm single bench order.

 

Janta Rule Lasted 34 Months

 

Opposition pounced on this mischief as god sent opportunity – virtually overnight 'Emergency Situation Developed' but opposition alliance could rule from 24 March 1977 to 28 July1979 to 14 January1980 under Morarjee Desai and Charan Singh respectively – less than three years.

 

Indira Gandhi returned with similar mandate 42.69% votes and 353 seats one more than 1971. But world's largest democracy suffered. India has never been united politically since 1975, opposition shame and brings down India on every pettiest issue. Multinationals who were dumped in three years gradually came because we didn't promote and respect our own people. A truck driver could abuse our Prime Minister.  

 

Eastern UP, Bihar & WB Economies Dead Since 1975

 

3. Indiscipline and lawlessness of Emergency and Janta Rule Crippled Economies of this belt. Industries had shut down, 80% population still live in darkness without electricity.

 

1998 Nuclear Explosions – India followed by Pakistan

 

4. Vajpayee's political decision for votes to explode Five Nuclear bombs followed by Pakistan exploding Seven virtually triggered Nuclear War but for time interventions by USA and other super powers.

 

Ø      Vajpayee pressed the buttons to Destroy Over 5000 years Old Civilization and land of Ram, Krishna, Buddha, Mahavir, Gurunanak in matter of hours.

 

2G - Imaginary Losses vs Real Gains

 

5. Vinod Rai out of nowhere found Rs.1,76,000 crores loss in licensing outdated 2G technology for 20 years term already being phased out but didn't disclose real gains due to Tariff Reduction from Rs.2.95 per minute call charges to Rs.0.88 per minute to 850 million Indians. Saving of average Rs.2000 per subscriber to 85 crore subscribers is Rs.1,70,000 crores annually.

 

Yet dubious Politicians made it in to a National Calamity – when NDA ministers may have milked Rs.2000 crores in 2G and UPA little more or less but Vinod Rai spark was enough to light nationwide fire.

 

Indian economy is suffering badly for over a year. Infosys Market Cap is lower at $29b from $45b earlier.

 

KG Basin RIL & GSPC and SSNNL

 

6. Vinod Rai for example didn't calculate 'Virtual Losses' in cases of KG Basin losses due to 'Hoarding By RIL & GSPC' – loss worth $500b and poor performance of SSNNL (Narmada Project) Rs.2,00,000 crores real loss.

 

Lowering Credit Rating of USA

 

7. Lowering of Credit Rating by one notch sent a tremor across the entire world. Technically, Economically and Militarily USA is a Superpower.

 

Failed Lokayuktas

 

8. In five years Lokayukta in Karnataka didn't direct Police to stop all illegal mining – in other words Illegal Mining Continued under the watchful eyes of Lokayukta, Modi didn't let appointment of Lokayukta and Uttarkhand Lokayukta didn't receive any complaint against any politician.

 

I have first hand experience of well connected Entrepreneur investing in a 10 acre project – half of the land was taken over by Government officials and Middlemen in conversion process but permission to run a Resort never materialized. During visit to Haridwar and Dehradun districts 'Illegal Construction Was Visible Everywhere' but some one who want to do legal business there is no possibility.

 

CONCLUSIONS: 

 

Existing laws and constitution is excellent – we need to improve our selection process – selection of Legislature, Executive and Judiciary and

 

a. There should be efficiency bar every five years for Legislature, Executive and Judiciary,

 

b. There should be Strict Police Verification at selection process for Legislature, Executive and Judiciary.

 

c. Any Criminal case against Officers serving Legislature, Executive and Judiciary should be Fast Track.

 

d. Fix responsibility and accountability of each officer.

 

e. Most important of all we all citizens should learn to complain against 'Corruption, Illegal Activity and Injustice'.

 

India doesn't need any Lokpal but appoint Qualified and Capable persons to our Executive, Legislature and Judiciary.

 

Ravinder Singh

September12, 2011

 

[HumJanenge] LOKPAL DESTROYED ARGENTINA"S ECONOMY

 

Ashok Kumar Anand -

 

In 1998, Argentina was a rich and successful country on a tremendous growth path. There was prosperity and less than 3% unemployment. Then a bill similar to Lokpal Bill was introduced called the Public Accountability Bill (Rendición  Pública de Cuentas) at the behest of some people wanting an extra constitutional

control over the government.

 

There were frivolous complaints, officials were charge sheeted, and the Bill became a tool for harassment in the hands of unaccountable persons.

 

The result was that officials became scared to take decisions, projects were held up and the government lost credibility.

 

The govt. handed major departments to pvt sector which, in the absence of any check, started minting money at the cost of public good.

 

The economy of Argentina collapsed, exports stopped, there was runaway inflation, and the country plunged into poverty with 50% unemployment.

 

So if u want the economic progress of India to continue and prevent a collapse in India, oppose the Lokpal Bill.

 

Long live democracy, long live India.

 

Forward it to you friends.. Make a Difference.. Spread Awareness...

 

Mathre Rangarajan -

 

I am very sure this is one more attempt to discredit JAN LOK PAL BILL by obviously wested interests with gross mis-information - No economy can collapse on account of one bill - If it is so fregile, then it deserves its fate - If a strong Ombudusman can make the economy collapse, then, many eountries (which have one) should have collapsed by now - The whole idea is utterly rediculas -  Of course Mr Sarabjit Roy will have something different to say!!

 

sarbajit roy -

 

WONDERFUL. The conspiracy theorists will love this. As with all propaganda its written by somebody knowledgeable and with a large axe to grind. But very readable and somewhat convincing on the first read.

BTW: It proves my case - ONE law can't destroy India, but TWO just might