Re: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: The agitation

Dear Friends 

   I do agree with certain observations:

1. The Jan Lokpal Bill which Anna Hazare is supporting is an outcome of a very small group and circulated in a limited arena. It is claimed that it was  rectified many times but who are the persons (civil society) who contributed?

2.  We all know that the Janta Janardan of this country is very sentimental.  Who cares for contents. What was originally demanded by Anna and what is left at culmination of this 13 days Ansan.  This is a very serious question to consider.   

ramesh kumar

haryana soochna adhikar manch

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From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: The agitation

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From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Subject: The agitation
To: rtitrainers <rtitrainers@googlegroups.com>

I am Posting the message received to me from Vivek Umrao Glendenning, for all to Judge.

Bhaskar Prabhu

Mahiti Adhikar Manch.

Dear Friends,

Sorry for cross posting. I am not very high intellectual like you guys. I am not highly dedicated like you guys. But I believe that maybe you have a tolerance to listen opposite side.

I am not saying anything on Anna, his works in Ralegan and his whole life. It is very controversial thus I prefer to leave it. But some important points on Anna's Janlokpal and civilian society. Please do not reply under subjective emotions, thank you.

Did Anna team discuss Jan Lokpal Bill with people of India? No they did not then who made it and why is it called as Jan Lokpal?

How was civil society formed?

How were members of civil society decided?

On breaking of Anna,s fast:

Anna started fast in August saying that PM and Judiciary must come under Lokpal. Before leaving Tihar Jail, Anna team removed Judiciary from their Jan Lokpal.

The demands by Anna to end his fast and results:

• Government take back its Lokpal

Result- Government did not take

• Prime Minister must be under Lokpal

Result- Government did not make any promise and did not add anything in the letter to Anna

• Member of Parliament must be under Lokpal

Result- Government did not make any promise and did not add anything in the letter to Anna

• Bill must be passed up to 30th August

Result- There is no time limit, it can be held for decades

• Bill must be not sent to Standing Committee

Result- Jan Lokpal Bill has been sent to Standing Committee with 4 more Lokpal Bills

• Government intervention must be minimum in appointments of Lokpal(s)

Result- Government did not make any promise and did not add anything in the letter to Anna

• The discussion on Jan Lokpal Bill must be under 184 with voting

Result- it did not happen, discussion was done under 193 without voting

I am not very intelligent to understand the reason behind Anna's fast and why did he end his fast.

I do not know why and what should I celebrate?

Regards

Vivek Umrao Glendenning