From: Manohar Sharma <manohar.sharma@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorssatish@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [pmarc] Stand in Solidarity with Dr. Zafarul Islam Khan
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 8:47 PM
To: Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorssatish@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [pmarc] Stand in Solidarity with Dr. Zafarul Islam Khan
2.Is it safe to to presume that you accept Ramayana and Mahabharata as the true history (इतिहास) n not just myths like in mythology. A holistic reply , will ,then follow.
3.As you are bringing out the destruction of autocthonus tribes ,insiniuating about AIT, the convener of Jaipur Dialogues mr Sandeep Dixit n his team have thrown open challenge to any one to prove Aryan Invasion Theory n collect a prize of 2 crore rupees.T.Joseph ,an earlier proponent of the theory has not even dared to apply as a contender.
4.Dr khan's tweet is an open threat to India as a foreign people are being invited (avalanches) to teach a lesson to Indians,that too by a person occupying an important constitutional position.Its an out n out sedition.
Manohar
From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 2:53 PM
To: Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorssatish@yahoo.com>; indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [pmarc] Stand in Solidarity with Dr. Zafarul Islam Khan
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 2:53 PM
To: Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorssatish@yahoo.com>; indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [pmarc] Stand in Solidarity with Dr. Zafarul Islam Khan
Shri Satish Kumar Singh's statement is a prime example of Hindu communal speak, presuming he is a Hindu, or one who calls himself one without really knowing what Hindus see as their textual traditions - the Veda-Vedanga. Those early books speak of the world's population being one family, of wishing for peace and prosperity for everyone, and they are also speculative in terms of what the ultimate reality or 'Brahman' is.
The epic literature speaks of destroying or reducing to animal status the people's who think, look and believe in ways that are different to the so-called 'Arya'. Hence Rama burns the forests of Khandwa, to destroy the economic base of the first people, the autocthonus tribes that saw the forests covering the whole continent as their collective territory which they must protect against marauding outsiders. The Mahabharata shows the divisive nature of autocracies towards control over territories by war in which brother stands against brother and the so-called wise elders take sides, pitting relatives against each other.
Those docile tribes who joined Rama's wars and later Central Asian and Indo-European colonization were accepted into the fold as Banar Senas.
It's the later Manuvadi who tried to set things right for the privileged top groups by dividing society into castes, and outcasting half the population including their own people who fell from grace. Brahmins readily annointed foreign chiefs as rulers of Bharatvarsha - see the pillar of Heliodorus near Sanchi erected by a Greek king given royal status by Brahmins hopeful of service at his court, or the great myth of the original Saka invaders being baptised by Brahmins and emerging as Rajputs in the agnikund at Mt. Abu!
Finally, these statements of Mr Singh sound like those of an uncritical student of Golwalkar, not of an Indian who respects and accepts the basic tenets of the Constitution of India.
Joya Roy
On Mon, 4 May 2020, 12:36 Satish Kumar Kapoor, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"1400 years history of Muslims speaks about Muslims communal ism
Only Muslims who want India to be Muslim country say Hindus are communal
The threat by Zafarul Khan of Arabs teaching lesson to Indians ( In fact he means Hindus) is Anti National Activity
History speaks that where ever Muslims are in Majority, they force non muslims to convert or fled , Kashmir is latest example.
Only Jai Chand ki Ulaad so called Secular Hindu support them.
Satish
On Sunday, May 3, 2020, 11:39:12 PM GMT+5:30, Zafarul-Islam Khan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Friends,
Dr Dalvi reproduces my tweet but does not bother to read it. He quotes me as saying "Hindu "Communal forces"" when the tweet says "Hindutva bigots" instead. He claims that I said that "Hindus are communal". Nowhere I said so and in fact I can never say so because I know that only a fraction of Hindus are communal (like a small fraction of communal people in every religious community). Dr Dalvi (I do not which kind of doctorate degree he has) calls me "equally under-educated" based on I don't know which "information in public domain" he relies on. Let him know that I hold a proper academic PhD from Manchester University (UK) with many books to my credit, some published abroad, taught and delivered keynote addresses in many universities at home and abroad. I wish you all well. Please do not get carried away by preconceived ideas and propaganda to harm and hurt people who bear no ill-will against you. We all are travelers in the same boat.
Best regards to all
Dr Zafarul-Islam Khan
On 02/05/2020 18:39, Sarbajit Roy (via indiaresists Mailing List) wrote:
Dear Dalvi ji
You, being busy in your work as a pracharak, may have missed it, but sometime back in 2018 Dr. Khan and I had discussed these matters on-list as well as offlist in a thread titled as "[IAC#RG] If a monkey brain was transplanted into Raul Vinci's skull ...."
I am happy to say that pursuant to that dialogue I informed the list that Dr. Khan is a scholarly well read highly intellectual and secular person in keeping with Islam's most liberal value systems, If such a person like Dr. Zafarul Khan was at all provoked to vent his frustration at "Hindu bigots", there must be a deeper systemic rot attacking the secular fabric of India which we need to investigate (and eliminate).
Sarbajit
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:14 AM Rajinder Dalvi <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Dear Shri Abhay Kumar (JNU)
Speaking in my personal capacity, and as a jurist, when it is admitted by the official Twitter account of Dr. Khan that he did make the impugned tweet (image attached), it is astounding for any Indian citizen to claim that this tweet is (a) in good taste (b) factually correct or (c) not seditious (as the law stands as present).
Secondly, it is incorrect to suggest that Hindu "Communal forces" are out to get Dr. Khan. Your statement implies that Hindus are communal (which is an insult to Hinduism) and that Dr. Khan is in some way of interest to Hindus. I can personally assure you that neither of your imputations is correct, and I say this as an established expert in the Hindutwa domain.
However, now that this individual has been brought to our attention, we can safely say that from information in public domain "Dr." Khan appears to be as equally under-educated / bigoted as the semi-literate RSS pseudo-Hindu bigots who govern India today, and who he attacks. It is a great mystery how he came to be appointed to his office or who appointed him.
Dr. R.S. Dalvi, LLM, JD, Lt. Col (Retd)
1) Gen Secretary - Akhil Bharatiya Hindu Samaj
2) Spokesperson - India Against Corruption3) Zilla Pramukh (for life) - Hindu Raksha Dal (Aurangabad Dist)
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