Friday, January 4, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Murder of a young girl in Delhi (was sexonwheels)

You are right . No one is blaming the pillars  of governance - the politicians , the  bureaucrats and the judiciary . They either  play blame game or start giving sermons   when such incidents take place .
It is pity that they  have been given all the powers but no responsibilty and accountability . Otherwise people like Delhi Police Commissioner Neeraj Kumar should have been suspended on the spot  for deriliction of his duties.
Where as  Netas rather tried to cover up his lapses with excuses to ensure that  he retains  his post to toe their lines . In this case Neeraj  finds  time to preach "Don't go out late in the night to avoid getting raped,"
The day they start doing what they are paid to do,  such incidents will get reduced .


Brig J S Ahuja
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:24 AM, SC Sharma <scsharma48@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
I do NOT for even a moment believe that the public expression was ONLY against rape. 
It was against the general mis-governance, lack of law & order and sociatel lack of respect for women.  The Rape on wheels was ONLY the LAST STRAW.
 We need to consider whether we can go overboard on just this one issue.
Today it is rape, tomorrow it will be something else. 
We need talk about JUST enforcement of LAW and a system to create the fear in criminals that they won't get away.
 

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:08:07 +0530
From: rbpurohit4productivity@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Murder of a young girl in Delhi (was sexonwheels)

Rape is a rape. Sex without consent and with minors of both sexes. Breach of contractual consensus sex may be kept in another category. Frivolous complaints can be screened. A swift action has to be taken moment a rape takes place or going to take place by mandatory information by any to police by bringing it under cpc similar to counterfeit currency. This will ensure evidence to convict. Some volunteers may be appointed from mohalla to report suspected movements. All drunk movement after sunset should be arrested.  A Sinhapore type smart nameplates should be made compulsory. ELECTRONIC MONITORING  should be installes. Banglore has gps installed in  all buses. All this is not exclusive. Like selling goods or services with sexist theme like Axe deoderant. Or making woman as object of desire. Ads films events rave parties and so on. No Paturia items. No munnis jalebis sheilas chamelies or S Leone whatever.
Regards to all well meaning Suggestions,
Ratanlal Purohit
On 02-Jan-2013 7:44 PM, "Sujata Madhok" <sujatamadhok@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Mada, 

If women were women's worst enemies they would go around raping each other. They don't. It is some (not all) men who are women's worst enemies. Please don't go around repeating sexist cliches. These are part of the anti-woman culture of our society, as are sexist jokes. These attitudes need to change if we are to build a more just and equal society,

Sujata Madhok
New Delhi




On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
This is fiction men have created to feel better about their own treatment of women (there is a whole list of such fictitious creations). It has no basis in fact. Men continue to be the largest perpetrators of violent crimes against women (and men). Social suppression, discrimination, etc are male led too, though women participate.

More importantly, don't patronise me. sharing an insight is not the same thing as open invitation to attribute intent.


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Vishvanath Mada <vishmada@hotmail.com> wrote:
Strangely it is the women who 
are the biggest enemies of woman.

Therefore, I would appreciate it if such fiction was not shared as an agreement with what I said - it is not the same thing to hesitate to change the subject of an email and to be own enemy - as you can clearly see from my reply (this email) to something that I believe is not in my interest.

Hope the distinction makes sense.

Vidyut

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