Re: [rti4empowerment] Demand and Expectations of the Poor in India

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From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>

Sender: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:07:31 -0700

To: Vishal Kudchadkar<humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>; RTI India<rti_india@googlegroups.com>

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Cc: Dr Goyal RTIDWARKA<rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in>

Subject: [rti4empowerment] Demand and Expectations of the Poor in India

Dear Friends,
 
 Time is precious for every body. Let us not waste it, in the name of RTI matter, on useless and irrelevant issues. 
 
2.  India rather Real India  expects some concrete action from these three groups -Humjanenge, RTI-India and rti4empowerment -
to help the poor of this country. I like suggestion of Mr. Binu Peter. From my side, at present main issue is CORRUPTION in Central
Government and State Governments; and second one is LOK Pal.
 
3.   Let us start discussion on how to contain this corruption so that every penny of the tax payers advanced to the State Governments as
central assistance for poverty alleviation programmes reaches the targetted grouprs. 
 
4.  Members may give their views on the proposed bill of LOK PA being submitted in the Budget session.
 
5.  Just a query! How many participating members of these three Groups have noted the promotion of the Chairperson of the Congress Party
recently to the position of the Chairperson of the UPA (as per an advertisement in Hindustan Times day before yesterday) ? 
 
With best wishes & JAI HIND
 
Hari Goyal
17.02.2011
 


 

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:37:50 -0800
From: binupeterdelhi@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] How journalists and politicians are all sleeping together.
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com

come on. let us have meaningful discussion in this group.   binu peter --- On Wed, 2/16/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] How journalists and politicians are all sleeping together. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 6:43 PM Dear Guptaji Your post has deeply wounded me. Let me list MY grievances against YOU ! 1) First of all I am NOT and RTI "activist". So there is no question of my having anything to do with "other" activists or wanting to cut them to size. 2) Secondly I am not your "colleague". 3) Thirdly, I do not "lead" anything, nor do I want to be "leading" anything. 4) Fourthly I am simply a private citizen, leading a simple and honest life. I can say with great pride that I have not  taken even 1 rupee from anyone for my "social work". 5) Fifthly, all the people you have named as leading RTI activists are all (without exception) part of a massive foreign financed network of haramis. They are out to scuttle the RTI Act and render it useless for ordinary citizens. Wajahat Habibullah is only the public face of this f*** RTI movement - the others are the sly behind the scene operators  - ex babus all  !!!- 6) Sixthly when Govind agrees with me that ALL CCICs and ICs are corrupt, then should I keep quiet about Mr Habibullah, Mr Gandhi, Mr Ansari etc. FYI when I say that ALL ICs are corrupt to some degree, even those ICs will agree with me. 7) Seventhly, Mr Gandhi's corruption is legendary. You just don't know about it, as yet !!! 8) Eightly, when Mr Shekhar Singh openly admits that he is financed by Google (in crores) for his RTI activities, do you trust him to to represent YOU/the People or Google & other foreigners ??? Please be honest.for once !! 9) When Aruna Roy so "selflessly" declines to take even 1 rupee as salary, and puts in sooo much work at the NAC (she is on each and every Working group - except 1), should we not look these gift horses in the mouth ? Ask yourself this, we all know that she lives in Delhi (see CIC records), yet she dutifully claims her conveyance / TA./ DA / flights from Tilonia to New Delhi :-) :) No wonder the NAC has a 30 lakh travel budget just for AR and SG (Sonia NOT Shailesh). 10) Lastly the agenda of this group is PUBLIC. You can read it on the homepage. My only desire is to file "responsible" RTIs as a citizen of a free republic and get the information speedily. Unfortunately because of these haramis that golden age has not dawned on India. Into that heaven of freedom let my country awake !!! Sarbajit On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:30 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: I request Mr. Roy to disclose his hidden agenda.  It seems to me to hit all other leading RTI activists like (all Shri ) Subhash Chander Agarwaq, Arvind Kejriwal, Aruna Rao, Shekhar Singh and all other those who matter.  He even does not spare former CCIC, Mr. Wajahat Habibullah and present Hon IC Shri Shailesh Gandhi. It seems that there should be only one active and leading activist and all other shld be cut to sizes so that he can claim that he is taller than others. I apologe for such terse comments and was not able to contro myself in the face of arogance of our one of our colleagues. .