Re: [HumJanenge] Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Meaningful discussion

This is a message addressed to my dear RTI friends

a) Mr M.K.Gupta
b) Mr Surendra Bhanot

Firstly, let me thank them for their kind advise

Secondly, let me thank them for their frank advise

Thirdly, let me return/reciprocate their courtesy by saying
that I and all the moderators greatly value their frank
opinions and we all shall factor their views into our future
course of action insofar as this group is concerned.

Fourthly, all the moderators (past and present) cherish
Guptaji's blessings for this group, we shall make this the
most positive RTI group, and I can assure everyone that
we are always on the side of the  CITIZENS only and do not
hold any brief for any "other persons" or ICs.

Warmly

Sarbajit

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:19 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Roy,   I also want this to be the leading one but the way, it is being misused by some of the persons at the helm of affair, it is difficult to achieve this aim.  Therefore, members are sending request for unsubscring them daily.    *Keep the blog only for secular postings. *Stop misuse. *Confine to RTI, Corruption and other issue of larger public interest. *Stop targetting others with callouness, rather seek their co-operation and work together. *Last but miost important for you, use your knowledge and energy in a positive way to bring results.  *Try to shed the impression that some moderators are working for some others including some ICs.    ANY COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OR MORE SUGGESTIONS. LET US RESOLVE TO MAKE THIS GROUP A LEADING ONE BY REPLACING THE USELESS DISCUSSION TO FRUITFUL.    , --- On Fri, 18/2/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Meaningful discussion To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 18 February, 2011, 10:53 AM Dear Guptaji Please understand 1 thing very clearly. This group HUMJANENGE@GOOGLEGROUPS is going to be India's finest RTI group. There is no hidden agenda about this. The voice of our members is going to be EFFECTIVELY heard at the highest levels of Government and judiciary especially on RTI related matters. As there is no question of you LEADing this group, you can either choose to be a FOLLOWer or GET OUT OF THE WAY. You are a free citizen of a free country and can do whatever you want. ("Lead follow or get out of the way" - Thomas Paine) http://www.lifehack.org/articles/management/lead-follow-and-get-out-of-the-way.html# Please understand, that as a citizen I FULLY respect (and enforce) your right to have your REASONABLE (3 posts/10 posts and other group norms) say on this group. As you have experienced all your posts are posted immediately and without moderation from this group AND are publicly readable by anyone with an internet connection.. Now as everyone here has had multiple opportunities to leave this group, and the "remove me" requests are at a negligible level again, the moderators are going to be ruthlessly pruning the member list by excising all dubious email IDs. Kindly note that this has nothing to do with the nature of a members posts to this group. We welcome every spectrum of opinion, views and dissent. Moderators can be (and often are) wrong. The will of the members is supreme. PS: If anyone is removed from this list due to a moderators mistake. kindly reapply, apologies in advance. Sarbajit On 2/17/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > I want either to expel me or hand over the moderatorship of this group to > some sensible memebrs selected by the members themselves by voting in a > democratic manner.  (I m not in line). > > After that, elected members will declare that they will be responsible for > the contents posted on this blog freeing the present moderators from this > liablility. > > If the present moderators do not amend their ways, I call upon other > members to resign in blog. > > Correspondeing with HJ is not a crime until there is a cross=posting. as we > r not bonded labour. > > Less knowledge of English is also not crime. We are Indian and many know > better English even comapared to Britons. BTW- Please inform the name of > member who does not know English. Both, Mr. J N Sharma and Govind know > English. > > Every member knows who deserve explusion. > > > --- On Thu, 17/2/11, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> > Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Meaningful discussion > To: "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, 17 February, 2011, 10:17 PM > > > There is no point in keeping a member who does not understand > English language in this group. > > The following members are gagged for deliberately breaking > group regulations (more than 3 posts in 1 day) > > 1. Dr. Jagnarain Sharma > 2. Govind Hope Sharma, who is also expelled from group > for Crossposting to  HJ-YG "Centre must add purpose clause > to RTI Act" > > S D Sharma > > On Feb 17, 10:54 am, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear members >> >> Free Speech does have limits after all, and while one does tolerate / >> ignore >> the occasional deviation from the flight plan, when it begins to gets out >> of  control, hard intervention is necessary. >> >> Let me just remind ALL our members of our regulations. These regulations >> are >> completely arbitrary and confer unlimited power to this list's owner / >> moderators. If any member does not like this state of affairs, they can do >> whatever they want to do; The option we suggest is unsubscribing. >> >> *Extracts* >> >> 1) Message posts to be directly relevant to RTI / Right to Information. >> >> 2) All posts in English language only (or with accurate translation) >> >> 3) No communal, sexist, racial, casteist etc message posts >> >> 4) Posts in reply to be trimmed (by deleting the previous post so that >> only >> relevant portions which are at issue to be retained). >> >> 5) Self publicity or publicity for NGOs (and their programs) is strictly >> prohibited. >> >> 6) Members are requested to limit / control the frequency of their posts >> to >> this list and *avoid personality based squabbles on this group*. >> >> *Complete list is available here >> [http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge] >> * >> >> Furthermore If the protagonists wish to take the personality related >> matters >> further, they should confine themselves to technical and legal issues >> directly relevant to RTI / RTI process and adhere to all the regulations.. >> >> Sarbajit