Tuesday, June 13, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] When Army Chief Says He Wishes Kashmiris Were Firing At His Men

There can be no doubt whatsoever that Major Gogoi's action was illegal and the personal commendation by COAS a crude command intervention to vitiate the ongoing CoI and to appease the political dispensations which appointed him out of turn for his fascist leanings, pliability and jingoism (à la Gen. VKS).

This incident has certainly brought dishonour upon the Army.

However, maintaining perspective, the channel (NDTV) which reported this incident is also a famously anti-Indian news outlet which had managed extraordinarily privileged access to restricted areas. Perhaps Major Gogoi should have tied their Chief Editor (Barkha Dutt ?) to his jeep and driven her about for 5 hours instead.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:52 AM, MG Kapoor <mgkapoor.1962@gmail.com> wrote:
The question here is not whether there was any other or better solution. The question is whether it was legal to make an innocent person captive, tie him up with the jeep and parade him around 26 villages for over five hours. (Put this to your own self and answer truthfully if you, your kith and kin or near and dear had been similarly tied and paraded for five hours and the reason given to you was that it was to save the security personnel at the polling booth!) 

What was the aim of parading him through 26 villages? Was it to "intimidate" the Kashmiris? If so, was it correct to terrorise your OWN people? 

If Dar was a terrorist he should have been arrested and not tied and paraded, as was done by Major Gogoi. 

Please remember means are as important as the ends. 

If we believe Dar's version that he dared go to the polling booth to cast his vote against the dicta of anti-nationals (he purportedly showed even the indelible ink mark on his finger), then he was definitely made a soft target for those who were instigating and even threatening people not to vote. Thus Dar's life was put to risk. 

Basically to handle civil riots is not the job of the Army and Army is not equipped for it. It is the job of the civil police which is equipped with water guns and smoke bombs to disperse the rioting crowd. So, the Army Chief should have the guts to tell his political bosses that it is not Army's job to curb civil riots or disperse mob. 

In as far as comparing Major Gogoi with Gen Dyer is concerned, no two situations can be or are identical. In fact Major Gogoi's action was even worse than that of Gen Dyer in as much as wheras Dyer was acting against Indians (other than his OWN British people), Gogoi was acting against the Kashmiris, our OWN people. 

What we have heard is only Gogoi's version. The very fact that an Army spokesperson said that Army Chief was Day to day knowing as to what was happening in the Court of Inquiry goes to show that the court of inquiry was not "Independent" and suffered from command influence. 

Even if we do grant Major Gogoi the benefit of having acted as "he thought" the situation demanded, to rescue the security staff at the polling booth, once that had been achieved, he should have released Dar. This is without prejudice to my contention that his very act of making Dar a captive was by itself wrong; whatever be the reasons. 


I certainly do not approve Gogoi's act and Army Chief's act of rewarding Gogoi.

This incident will go down as a BLACK SPOT in the anals of Indian Army. 


On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 at 7:16 PM, m.g.r. rajan <mgr_rajan@hotmail.com> wrote:

In all fairness, one should leave decision making, for the action to be taken, on the war-front, or battle-filed or ground-zero to the man there. He is risking his life and limb following orders. Certainly, our army men are not trained to be sadists, who get pleasure by ill-treating or harrassing naive civilians. Since we may not have an independent, unbiased version of what actually happened that day, give Maj. Gogoi the benefit of doubt for his action. Certainly, his action did not escalate the violence in that area that day nor was the person tied to the jeep hurt. To say that, 'an innocent bystander was tied to a jeep and paraded along' is not correct or ethical in the least.

R. Rajan

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of MG Kapoor <mgkapoor.1962@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:52:53 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] When Army Chief Says He Wishes Kashmiris Were Firing At His Men
Absolute truth. I entirely agree. Even Gen HS Panag and General Hooda agree with my views. The analogy I gave of the present incident to be similar to the action of Gen Dyer in Jallianwala Bagh is ascribed to by these Generals, both of whom are distinguished Generals. 
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"
Exit: "indiaresists-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net"
Quit: "https://lists.riseup.net/www/signoff/indiaresists"
Help: https://help.riseup.net/en/list-user
WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in

Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"
Exit: "indiaresists-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net"
Quit: "https://lists.riseup.net/www/signoff/indiaresists"
Help: https://help.riseup.net/en/list-user
WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in

No comments:

Post a Comment

Note: Only a member of this blog may post a comment.