Thursday, December 15, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Can nation be trusted in hands of Gujaratis ?

Dear Mr Dalvi,

I have visited Gujarat only a few months ago, with my teenaged daughter for her entrance tests, and believe me, it impressed me as an extremely well-governed state. My own daughter -who has grown up in Kolkata ( which is generally a safe city for young women) was shocked to see that she could walk around and enjoy late night shows with her friends there until midnight.

Besides, I have never seen a cleaner traditional market anywhere in India. Visit Ratanpol and its vicinity, and you will agree!

As for the Hindu -Muslim divide, it is more a sense of insecurity among the Muslims than anything else-probably because of the comparatively lower literacy levels among them. I will tell you something interesting; I was shopping for bangles at the centuries-old Rani no hajiro and could not get enough interesting designs to buy for my friends back home. The Hindu bangle -seller guided me to a Muslim shopkeeper, who had a small establishment that manufactured bangles and metal jewellery. The shop was tucked right in, and one had to climb a few stairs to get there. When I managed to find it, and get a dozen packs , he casually asked me how I got to his shop, since, notwithstanding my fluent Gujarati, he clearly recognized me as a newcomer to the city. He was shocked to hear that a Hindu shop-owner had guided me to him! What do you say to that?

But Gujaratis, even in Mumbai, do not like meat and fish-eating neighbours in their vicinity. Newspapers in Ahmedabad are full of letters from north Indians and others who cannot get houses on lease-rentals because of being non-vegetarian. Nobody talks of this; it is only the anti-Muslim sentiment that is spoken of. Probably because certain groups would like to stoke them!

Dr Rina Mukherji


From: Kumar Arun <>
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Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2016 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Can nation be trusted in hands of Gujaratis ?

Dear Fellow Bharatiya,

We Indians are all capable of thinking and writing better than what is expressed in the subject line. It is very common in politics that  opposition to incumbent government receive more attention. Few years back, many among us, almost of all of us, were upset with Sonia regime. The name of fame of Sonia-Manmohan-Rahul-Priyanka and her husband Robert was bothering us. It is only two years have passed and same group of people are wishing them back in power, how ironic?

Our elected government has five years term to accomplish their manifesto and so is allowed for Modi government. I think we should have little patience, at least by end of 2018 (completion of 4 years) before accusing him for betraying trust.


Dr. Kumar Arun
f: India Heritage Foundation
Michigan (USA)

From: <> on behalf of Anand Gangoli <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:14:47 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Can nation be trusted in hands of Gujaratis ?
The comments of Mr Dalvi against Gujeratis is an indication of some sort of envy. There is no doubt that Gujerat has developed very fast during the last decade and more. This  development took place in spite of Congress being at the centre for 8 of the last 10 years. No one can deny that Narendra Modi as the chief minister was responsible for the rapid development of Gujerat, with little assistance from the centre. This was achieved largely because of hard work, initiatives (and some calculated risks) taken, and a tight administration which drastically reduced opportunities for corruption.
I  have found no signs of a fascist state in Gujerat. To make a general statement that Hindu builders do not sell property to Muslims is irresponsible. It is possible that Mr Dalvi is aware of some particular case, and if so, this should be considered an aberration. Basically Gujeratis are businessmen, and will sell an apartment or anything else to anyone who is willing to pay the right price.That is perhaps the secret of their success in commerce. Having said that, the Muslims do need to make efforts to integrate with the rest of our population, and not view the entire world as a  Muslims vs the rest contest. 
As for Gujerat or (India) being a Fascist state, I can only comment that  had this been true, we would not have been enjoying the freedom of speech (or e mail) as we are enjoying at present!
Anand S Gangoli

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Rajinder Dalvi <> wrote:

How can anyone deny that this is not a government of crony gujaratis by crony gujaratis for crony gujaratis ?

Have you ever been to gujarat recently ? Gujarat seems not to want to be a part of India, eg. you will not find signs in Hindi (95% signs in gujarati rest are in english).

RSS social engineering (Gujarat is RSS laboratory) has ensured that Muslims cannot live in Hindu areas, Hindu builders will not sell apartments to Muslims and vice versa.

Gujarat has been turned into a perfect fascist state by RSS. Ask anyone in Gujarat who is Chief Minister there and they will either reply Narendra Modi (93%) or Amit Shah (5%).  In Modi-raj decisions are first taken in private for private gain and then rubber stamped by constitutional agencies later. There is no democracy worth the name there.

Is this the India that you want to live in ?

RP Dalvi

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM, rina mukherji < > wrote:
Absolutely agree with u, Mr Gangoli. Please do not cast aspersions on an entire community.
You should instead criticise the PM for having elevated inefficient people of no consequence to the top posts of the country.
Dr Rina Mukherji

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