Re: [IAC#RG] Swaraj Abhiyan exposed as Congress proxy

Dear All,

As requested earlier we need to focus of process rather then limited persons.Positives of Sh.Sarbajit and his post promotion is that based on his experiences he shares his limitations and does not block any democratic suggestions.Instead of getting trapped and accepting that wealth and fund generated belong only to those who privately control salaries we must debate on how to generate awareness on fund ownership of 90% as tax payers....see image. Swaraj Abhiyan promoters must also note that new star faces with fresh trajectories to fight corruption is the need of the hour.Watchdog group as initiated in this and such post is must for alert India.

In Appreciation,

Yours Sincerely,

Rakesh Manchanda.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Prabodh Raj Chandol <pedpanchayat@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems that Mr Sarbjit think that he is the only person, who is honest and corruption free. Why the issue of national interest be discussed within a small group. It seems that some people act as hypocrites. Whether the freedom fighters of this country have ever thought that this country is theirs' only.  We must talk with broad mind and be transparent in our thoughts as well as actions. If Rakesh has disclosed this discussion to me, that means that Rakesh is real democrat and transparent in his actions. I like Mr. Rakesh but not Mr. Sarbjit.

Prabodh

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Rakesh Manchanda <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sarbjit Roy,

Thanks for announcing your political views with word of caution that may keep this group and showcase insulated and freezed.

What stands sharp and missing is that you do not prescribe a united and uniform survival kit.

Sir you do not point out any collective solutions out of box.

Allegations on persons boycotting PM speech and so on are still stand unclear with no clear evidences.

I agree star experts declared by the ACT as per your alert needs to replace new star faces but system with limited funding strings of the corporate is designed in such a way that this limitations shall continue.

To my understanding even during the British India several Indians stood in the favour of whites and wanted some posts.

Same `compromising` DNA rules India today-kindly see image no 3-file enclosed.

Your selective arguments silently benefits the present political systems in India.

We have to help ourselves first to come out of the stale mind set that generated funds belongs only to the masters and not masses who silently helped and now stand divided by rulers.

Allow to sum up with three supporting images as files enclosed.

Finding correct path and safe collective routes based on several experiences shall continue locally & globally even if we like or dislike it.

Best Wishes 4 a better India,

Rakesh Manchanda.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir/s

1) We are non-political persons (and being non-political is a key part
of our "ideology"),

2) As genuine (apolitical) anti-corruption experts - with track
records, "we" reserve the right to caution the public at large about
fake anti-corruption experts who are political 'joomlas' and/or
foreign financed 'haramis'.

3) FYI, this thread originated on and is running on India Against
Corruption's mailing list, and IAC list members have a charter,
manifesto and common direction. If Rakesh is circulating these emails
outside the IAC list the possibility of any productive discussion
diminshes, as you have correctly observed.

4) BTW: There were 'n'  number of silent, unsung, patriots who did not
compromise pre-1947. AFAIK, most of them were as equally opposed to
political participation then as IAC is today.

5) We also cannot dismiss the foreign financing issue as lightly as
Rakesh would have us do.
The CIA / Ford Foundation etc, has infiltrated all levels of AAP/SA to
the extent that, say, CSDS where Prashant Bhushan is a Governing
Trustee and Yogendra Yadav is a tenured Professor, is heavily Ford
(ie.CIA) financed and agenda based.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/surajit-dasgupta/the-cia-ford-ngo-congress-nac-aap-nexus/10152395314509630/

Quote:
"Expanding community rights over natural resources" (this agenda
figured prominently in the first policy meeting of the AAP held in the
house of Shalini Gupta, Prashant Bhushan's sister, in Noida in between
January 11-13, 2013. Yogendra Yadav, Anand Kumar and invitees Prof
Arun Kumar and Aseem Shrivastava stressed the need to switch socialism
from bureaucratic control to community ownership)"

Therefore as an independent non-financed people's movement we cannot
blindly trust anybody who is tainted by accepting funds with string
attached, and especially not with foreign / corporate / political
strings attached -and merely because they are "good persons" - in this
context, IAC will not repeat mistakes of the past.

Sarbajit
for
India Against Corruption

On 2/9/16, Prabodh Raj Chandol <pedpanchayat@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have participated in this dialogue because I thought that it would a
> healthy discussion. But persons like sarbjit seems to be influenced by an
> ideology or a political group. If it is so, than this discussion will
> become a debate and everyone will speak about his own political group,
> without trying to understand the feelings of others.
>
> Prabodh
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Rakesh Manchanda <
> rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sarabjit Roy,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your clear vision and preference.
>>
>> If your text is taken seriously then history of pre-independent India is
>> full of compromising with truck load of evidences of compromises.
>>
>> Today same compromised DNA who supported British Raj is ruling modern
>> India today.
>>
>> Still people will risk for a better process and seek clear evidences
>> against possible leaders and changemakers.
>>
>> Still the weak taxpayers are hungry for a change and want to remain
>> united.See file image enclosed.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Rakesh
>>>
>>> In my experience the persons are more important than the process.
>>>
>>> Our views on those persons are consistent and in public domain. If SA
>>> chooses to associate with them, it is because discredited and rootless
>>> persons like Yogendra Yadav are finding nobody else.
>>>
>>> It is absolutely inconceivable that professional parasites like Aruna
>>> Roy et al are any kind of anti-corruption experts. The recent episode
>>> where they got CIC Vijai Sharma to invite them (and only them) to the
>>> CIC 10th RTI Convention so they could call for PM's speech to be
>>> boycotted completely exposes them as Congress agents.
>>>
>>> It is very clear that fronts like so-called Swaraj Abhiyan are devices
>>> to collective the disaffected for some Congress/AAP controlled
>>> Maha-Gatbandhan in the future. I rather suspect that Yogendra Yadav
>>> would go crawling back to AAP if invited and given some token post.
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>> On 2/7/16, Rakesh Manchanda <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > It will be more sad for us if Corruption as *process* is not
>>> > challenged
>>> > collectively by all.
>>> >
>>> > Sh.Sarajeet roy your alert focus is more is on *persons and not on the
>>> > process.*
>>> >
>>> > I agree your team should have invited during the finalisation of
>>> speakers
>>> > in this new group-Anti Corruption Team-ACT.
>>> >
>>> > Yesterday few of us as independent birds attended the ACT preparation
>>> meet
>>> > and it was cleared Swaraj Abhiyan is only one of several stakeholder
>>> > groups.
>>> >
>>> > By the way this funda of Funds source alert controlling the agenda as
>>> > highlighted by you is stale.
>>> >
>>> > This alert is unknowingly used again and again wherein the modern
>>> > logic
>>> > remains that 90% taxpayers who pay taxes need to get their funds and
>>> > services back from the 10% corrupt lobbies.
>>> >
>>> > Allow me to share a recent article via link in this direction....
>>> >
>>> > Tolerance Vs Intolerance -Global Game controlled by 1%?
>>> > http://beyondheadlines.in/2015/11/tolerance-vs-intolerance/
>>> >
>>> > Warm Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Rakesh Manchanda
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