Re: [IAC#RG] [New post] AMBEDKAR NEVER PARTICIPATED IN FREEDOM STRUGGLE FOR COUNTRY

The fight for independence, if we look a bit deeply, was an effort by non working urban middle class to wrest he powers from British and , to perpetuate or rather, accentuate the exploitation of the working classes of this country.

Not just Ambedkar, but one would find many other examples of great persons, who worked for people, but never targeted the British rule much. To me, Sir Chotturam is one such example.

He emancipated millions of peasants from the clutches of money lenders in the United Punjab. To me or, the people of this region, spread across Haryana, Punjab, Delhi and Pakistan Punjab, he is much more revered than the freedom fighters. Only few like Bhagat Singh, Subhash Bose and other martys draw same respect as Chottu ram. 

Chottu ram understood what the Congress movement was about and left it in 1921 after 5 years of joining it. Reasons: 1. Congress was not making emancipation of farmers as a core issue 2. country's revenue comes from villages and get invested in cities. Congress was not ready to challenge it. 3. Congress not ready to accept farmers as active participants in national movement.

Today, the person, who actually brought freedom to millions of farmers, is obliterated from the history books. 

As far as I understand, Congress was about Hindu urban middle class, who wanted to replace the British as new rulers and continue to loot the masses of this country.

Ambedkar had a greater enemy than the British to fight. So, you can not fault him.

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Dr. J. K. Chaudhry <jkchaudhry@gmail.com> wrote:

Admire Ambedkar for his contribution ion

Let he,who has never sinned,cast the first stone....bible

Do not focus on warts and pimples alone,IF you want to make friends ...or heroes.

J.K.Chaudhry
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On May 7, 2014, at 10:25 PM, tadepalli triambakakishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com> wrote:

What's the purpose of this write up?Nobody can discount the personality of BabaSaheb.( I a pedigreed member of Brahmin Caste

am in total awe of the great person who overcame great challenges and consider him an AVATAR / Siddhapurush in the mold of rishis and gnanis). His shortcomings are minuscule as compared to Gandhi/ Nehrus/ Jinnah.

A rough estimate puts Lower Castes( Sudras) , Dalits and Adivasis constitute a whopping 70% of BharatVasis.

So is' nt it a travesty  of natural justice to perpetuate backwardness of majority. Meritocracy is good but welfare of majority is the crying need .

Please spare me and like minded people of this vitriol.

Veteran TTKishore

On Wednesday, May 7, 2014, hindu speaks <comment-reply@wordpress.com> wrote:

hindu speaks posted: "'There is not one instance, not one single, solitary instance in which Ambedkar participated in any activity connected with that struggle to free the country' The recent furore following the desecration of Dr Bhim Rao Ambedkar's statue in Bombay has lar" Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on hindu speaks AMBEDKAR NEVER PARTICIPATED IN FREEDOM STRUGGLE FOR COUNTRY by hindu speaks 'There is not one instance, not one single, solitary instance in which Ambedkar participated in any activity connected with that struggle to free the country' The recent furore following the desecration of Dr Bhim Rao Ambedkar's statue in Bombay has largely been interpreted as the resurgence of the dalit movement in India. A phenomenon which first saw its genesis in the philosophy and personality of Dr B R Ambedkar 50 years ago. In his latest book, Worshipping False Gods, Arun Shourie challenges Dr Ambedkar's contribution to Indian Independence. The book has already run into controversy and several dalit organisations in Maharashtra want it banned. Ambedkar's public life begins in a sense from a public meeting held at the Damodar Hall in Bombay on March 9, 1924. The struggle for freeing the country from the British was by then in full swing. Swami Vivekananda's work, Sri Aurobindo's work, the Lokmanya's work had already stirred the country. Lokmanya Tilak had passed away in 1920. The leadership of the National Movement had fallen on Gandhiji. He had already led the country in the Champaran satyagraha, the Khilafat movement, in the satyagraha against the Rowlatt Act, against the killings in Jallianwala Bagh and the merciless repression in Punjab. This National Movement culminated in the country's Independence in 1947. In a word, a quarter century of Ambedkar's public career overlapped with this struggle of the country to free itself from British rule. There is not one instance, not one single, solitary instance in which Ambedkar participated in any activity connected with that struggle to free the country. Quite the contrary--at every possible turn he opposed the campaigns of the National Movement, at every setback to the Movement he was among those cheering the failure. Thus, while the years culminated in the country's Independence, in Ambedkar's case they culminated in his becoming a member of the Viceroy's Council, that is -- to use the current terms -- a Minister in the British Cabinet in India. The writings of Ambedkar following the same pattern. The Maharashtra government has by now published 14 volumes of the speeches and writings of Ambedkar. These cover 9,996 pages. Volumes up to the 12th contain his speeches and writing up to 1946. These extend to 7,371 pages. You would be hard put to find one article, one speech, one passage in which Ambedkar can be seen even by inference to be arguing for India's Independence. Quite the contrary. Pause for a minute and read the following: All me to say that the British have a moral responsibility towards the scheduled castes. They may have moral responsibilities towards all minorities. But it can never transcend the moral responsibility which rests on them in respect of the untouchables. It is a pity how few Britishers are aware of it and how fewer are prepared to discharge it. British rule in India owes its very existence to the help rendered by the untouchables. Many Britishers think that India was conquered by the Clives, Hastings, Coots and so on. Nothing can be a greater mistake. India was conquered by an army of Indians and the Indians who formed the army were all untouchables. British rule in India would have been impossible if the untouchables had not helped the British to conquer India. Take the Battle of Plassey which laid the beginning of British rule or the battle of Kirkee which completed the conquest of India. In both these fateful battles the soldiers who fought for the British were all untouchables... Who is pleading thus to whom? It is B R Ambedkar writing on 14 May 1946 to a member of the (British) Cabinet Mission, A V Alexander. Nor was this a one-of slip, an arrangement crafted just for the occasion. Indeed, so long as the British were ruling over India, far from trying to hide such views, Ambedkar would lose no opportunity to advertise them, and to advertise what he had been doing to ensure that they came to prevail in practice. Among the faithful his book What Congress and Gandhi Have Done to the Untouchables is among the most admired and emulated of his writings. It was published in 1945, that is just two years or so before India became Independent. As we shall see when we turn to Ambedkar's views on how harijans may be raised, it is an out and out regurgitation of the things that the British rulers and the missionaries wanted to be said, of the allegations and worse that they had been hurling at our civilisation and people. The book has been published officially by the education department of the government of Maharashtra, and is sold at a subsidised price! It constitutes Volume IX of the set Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar, Writings and Speeches. It reproduces the speech Ambedkar made at the Round Table Conference -- a speech which served the designs of the British rulers to the dot, and for which, as we shall soon see, they were ever so grateful to Ambedkar for it became one of the principal devices for thwarting Gandhiji. In the speech Ambedkar addresses the prime minister and says, "Prime minister, permit me to make one thing clear. The depressed classes are not anxious, they are not clamorous, they have not started any movement for claiming that there shall be an immediate transfer of power from the British to the Indian people.... Their position, to put it plainly, is that we are not anxious for transfer of power from the British to the Indian people.... Their position, to put it plainly, is that we are not anxious for transfer of political power...." But if the British were no longer strong enough to resist the forces which were clamouring for such transfer, Ambedkar declared, then his demand was that they make certain arrangements-- arrangements which we shall encounter repeatedly in his speeches and writings, the essential point about which was to tie down the new government of Independent India. Excerpted from Worshipping False Gods by Arun Shourie source:http://www.rediff.com/freedom/29ambed.htm     hindu speaks | May 7, 2014 at 2:30 am | Categories: Uncategorized | URL: http://wp.me/p493HF-2OC Comment    See all comments Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from hindu speaks. Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://hinduspeak.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/ambedkar-never-participated-in-freedom-struggle-for-country/ Thanks for flying with WordPress.com

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