Saturday, March 29, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Why you have double standard on corruption?

Dear Devinder ji

It is the nature of today's traffic scenario that whether it is a
ultra-rich businessman with 10 bedroom house like Arvind Kejriwal in
his Mercedes, or IAC on our bicycles we will both reach the ultimate
destination at the same time.

We are surely indebted to persons in USA who provide the email lists
to activists. The fact that they are in USA is not a big issue because
the other US alternatives like Google, Amazon and Yahoo are much worse
and our subscriber base would be in hands of CIA
who could disconnect us in a moment..

Some BJP./Namo boosters have "doubts" about IAC, since we are using
this free of cost from USA service. We would willingly stop using it
if shown an alternative.

Sarbajit

On 3/28/14, Devinder Chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very well reasoned and spoken most sensitively, Sire.
> Nothing works or stays afloat, w/o any funding. It comes to me as a rude
> "shock" in a sense, that, one cannot make a humble contribution, locally,
> if each email costs the kind of amount, you have pointed out.
> i must remain beholden to the ones in the US, who have been making their
> contributions to your (*and that is our)* "kharchas" !
>
> With respects, warm regards and Peace.
> dev chopra in gurgaon
> 9810338049
> ***
>
>
>
> On 28 March 2014 21:49, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Mr Gaur, Dr Taneja etc.
>>
>> You and other members certainly deserve an explanation.
>>
>> 1) We have about 25,000 subscribers on this list. It costs about Rs. 6
>> per 1,000 emails sent. So each time an email is sent from this list,
>> it costs Rs. 150. and 20 emails per day means Rs. 3,000.
>>
>> 2) IAC has not being paying for this, it is eventually paid for by a
>> group of very dedicated and honest people in USA who run the Riseup
>> collective for groups like us. They pay for it out of their own pocket
>> or from donations. Most of their mailing lists are between 50 to 500
>> people. Our list is a real strain to them. So we took the decision
>> internally to cut back on emails. There is no such thing as "free
>> speech". We considered various other options such as GMAIL, Yahoo
>> groups etc but they all had dangers and involved too much work to
>> transfer.
>> Suggestions on this are welcome.
>>
>> 3) IAC had taken a very conscious decision not to take money or
>> donations. We had to do this or every Tom Dick Harry would be claiming
>> to be IAC and raising funds. Our approach has certainly affected
>> spreading IAC's name PUBLICLY (in hindsight this was a blessing).
>>
>> 4) We took a conscious decision to grow the grass roots in last 1
>> year. You will soon see local agitations who are disillusioned with
>> all parties suddenly remembering IAC and what ORIGINAL IAC stood
>> for.:-)
>>
>> 5) We have also been reclaiming back IAC assets and issuing legals
>> threats and notices to vigorously defend our assets. We have appointed
>> 2 advocates to take care of litigation for this.
>>
>> 6) Our doubt is not only with AAP or AK, it is genuinely against ALL
>> political parties and the political process. This makes it very
>> difficult for IAC to work with most other NGOs or groups.
>>
>> 7) To understand IAC's "silence" on AAP and AK, you will have to read
>> the last paras of IAC manifesto. IAC views AAP as phase-2 whereas IAC
>> (by whatever name) will be phase -3 when it happens.
>>
>> 8) The one thing I can assure you of is that we are open and fluid and
>> like to maintain communication with our members.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 3/28/14, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dt.27/3/14
>> >
>> > Mr. S. Roy
>> >
>> > Comments of Mr. A.K. Upadhaya are quite revealing with regard to
>> > internal
>> > affairs of AAP. His intention to send CC to You as convenor is perhaps
>> more
>> > by way of information and circulation among members/invitees of this
>> forum.
>> > No where he has asked for intervention. You have rightly circulated and
>> many
>> > of us who were looking at IAP as an instrument of change after their
>> > spectacular performance in Delhi elections are extremely disillusioned
>> > by
>> > later developments.
>> > You have also been quite vocal about criticism of AK. But had gone
>> > quiet
>> > after the elections and for mation of their Govt. Many of us were
>> wondering
>> > why that change?
>> >
>> > Regds
>> >
>> > JKGaur
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr. D. K. Taneja
>> > MBBS, D.Orth, MS Orth, FAMS
>> > Prof & HOD of Orthopaedic & Medical Director
>> > Arihant Hospital & Research Centre, Indore
>> > DNB Coordinator
>> > President Elect, Orthoapedic Association of SAARC Countries
>> > Emeritus Prof. Sri Aurbindo Institute of Medical Sciences, Indore
>> > Past President Indian Orthopaedic Association
>> > Secretary Orthopaedic Research & Education Foundation - India
>> > Ex. Dean MGM Medical College, Indore
>>
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>>
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