Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

I agree . Let us be called as Indian rather than Hindu, Muslim, etc.

Dr N C Jain

17-4-13

 

From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

every time a new topic of discourse begins,it may be prudent to see
how directly(and not through some circuitous manner) is it related to
the core objectives of the forum.Meandering and criss-cross dialogues
could hardly serve a good,much less great purpose of the forum.Every
one is,at the end of the day,back to square one.
    spmathur

On 3/29/13, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Fellow countrymen
> Let us all define our Indianness instead of a Hindu, Christian, Muslim or
> Sikh. Let us define how an Indian needs to behave or live amicably across
> the length and breadth of the country. Let us get over parochialism and
> regionalism what is good for India has to be good for all areas. When we
> can use one currency , have one Armed Forces for the country, one national
> anthem, one national flag & emblem why do have any alternatives any where.
> Let us stop talking on the terms of religion or caste which will only cause
> our downfall as we have watched for over 50 years.
> ABOVE ALL LET US ALL TAKE PRIDE IN OUR INDIANNESS.
> Vijoy Ambasta
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deepak Verma
> <deepakmohan.verma@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I don't get this discussion on Defination of Hindu. Our main motive is
>> to fight against CORRUPTION and we are arguing in definations and
>> reading something like number of children per family. and we called it
>> a IDEOLOGY of IAC, I mean just cut the crap please. If I am not wrong
>> then Our main agenda is to fight against curruption not just finding
>> same defination which ,might, create some religion differences in
>> society.
>>
>> OR If any one can please justify that where is the Corruption thing is
>> coming in this discussion then it would be better to understand.
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/13, Varun Khajuria <khajuria.v@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For god sake dont term "Bharat" Ram hanuman shiva as mythological if u
>> want
>> > to use these terms for sanatan dharm then use these terms for other
>> beliefs
>> > also dont be a hypocrate
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Varun
>> > On Mar 24, 2013 2:29 PM, "Navnith Krishnan" <navkris@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Sarbajit,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You will agree with me that the word Hindu and India are both derived
>> >> from
>> >> the word Sindhu.The Persians  used to broadly refer to those living
>> >> around the River Sindhu as Hindus.Since the river Sindhu or Indus is
>> >> in
>> >> Pakistan,by your theory is it not a fallacy to call our country as
>> India?
>> >> Ofcourse,Bharath is based on the mythological figure,Bharatha,who was
>> >> a
>> >> great Emperor.But this name is recognized by the Constitution of
>> >> India,perhaps to highlight our great cultural heritage.We have enough
>> >> issues already,so why waste time splitting our hairs about India and
>> >> Bharath.Let both unite us.
>> >>
>> >> With regards to number of children,it is not a question of two
>> >> children
>> >> per man or per woman. Why Muslims are allowed to have a separate
>> personal
>> >> law in a so called cecular democracy..Why should they be allowed to
>> >> practice poligamy.Rajiv Gandhi did the biggwest blunder by getting the
>> >> constitution amended to deny a poor Muslim woman alimony.Her rights as
>> an
>> >> Indian citizen was thus denied.Perhaps BJP is the only party demanding
>> >> common civil code.******
>> >>
>> >> *navnith*
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:18:54 +0530
>> >> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> >> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>> >>
>> >> Dear Navnith
>> >>
>> >> IAC is extremely focussed on 3 and only 3 words which are "India",
>> >> "Against", and "Corruption".
>> >>
>> >> The BJP and Aam Aadmi Party etc is not at all concerned about "India"
>> >> they
>> >> are only concerrnd about some mythical and non-existent "Bharat". The
>> >> only
>> >> party which makes mention of India is the 'Indian" National Congress
>> (and
>> >> we all know how Indian that party is. So please rest assured that IAC
>> >> will
>> >> eventually define "India" in a UNIFYING way which truly makes every
>> >> one
>> >> who
>> >> shall remain in our movement very happy and proud..
>> >>
>> >> Once everyone in IAC becomes an "Indian" (as agreed and accepted) , we
>> >> shall unleash the power of  AGAINST. because that needs hardly any
>> >> definition.
>> >>
>> >> On population control, a simple question you can assist IAC on:-
>> >>
>> >> If a monogamist Hindu family is ever limited to 2 children by law,
>> should
>> >> the family of a polygamist Muslim with 4 wives be limited to 2
>> >> children
>> >> or
>> >> 8 children ?
>> >> ,
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Navnith Krishnan
>> >> <navkris@hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Sarbajit,
>> >> Good, you are in the process of defining and clarifying IAC's
>> ideological
>> >> issues.Perhaps it may make IAC more focussed rather than making it a
>> >> platform for members to comment on every issue under the sun.
>> >> But do you think 'black money' and 'population control' are divisive
>> >> issues which should be frozen?.Do you think corruption is a
>> 'meaningless'
>> >> issue?It looks more like Congress 'ideology'.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *navnith*
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:02:57 +0530
>> >> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>> >>
>> >> Dear Major Sarwara etc.
>> >>
>> >> IAC is now is the process of defining and clarifying certain
>> >> ideological
>> >> issues, and to see thereby which organisations can work with IAC and
>> vice
>> >> versa.
>> >>
>> >> This is not the old IAC where "all good people"  came together on the
>> >> simplistic (and meaningless) issue of corruption, and which old IAC
>> >> collapsed under the weight of its own ideological and egoistical
>> >> contradictions.
>> >>
>> >> This IAC's platform and agenda  is going to be clear, and its stand on
>> >> various issues , including *religion which is a fountainhead of
>> >> corruption in India and is deeply embedded in our political and
>> >> economic
>> >> culture*, will be consistent.
>> >>
>> >> IAC is determined to get as many of the troublesome and divisive
>> >> issues
>> >> frozen before we move forward with our campaign.  Religion is only one
>> of
>> >> them, "black money" is another, "population control" is a third etc
>> >> etc.
>> >>
>> >> We are also encouraging everyone to leave IAC who is not prepared to
>> >> endure this painful learning process, or who has sympathy for the ways
>> of
>> >> the old IAC and its past leaders.
>> >>
>> >>  I'm sorry to be so blunt, but its better to be disillusioned now than
>> to
>> >> be disillusioned later.
>> >>
>> >> It is also a mark of how seriously HRA takes this process that I am
>> >> personally tasked for answering all queries so that there is as little
>> >> deviation as is possible, and since the time with us is so very short.
>> >>
>> >> Since our public list is open, vario0us outside entities are "pinging"
>> >> apolitical IAC through the maliing list to see what we now are and
>> >> where
>> >> we
>> >> stand and where we are going.
>> >>
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM, <vartika.journalist@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Everybody please pay attention to what Major D S Sarvana Very rightly
>> >> said
>> >> ..
>> >> Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: sarwara.super@gmail.com
>> >> Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:12:52
>> >> To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> >> Reply-To: sarwara.super@gmail.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>> >>
>> >> Uf!what crap going on in IAC,every one is trying to show their
>> >> knowledge
>> >> to others on matters not concerned with IAC platform.Useless sub being
>> >> discussed except corruption.Is deviation planned by  vested
>> >> interests?......Major D S Sarwara
>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from !DEA
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> >> Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:11:46
>> >> To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> >> Reply-To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
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