Re: [IAC++] enlighten us all those who matters

Excellent idea. Victor --- On Sun, 12/23/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IAC++] enlighten us all those who matters To: iac@lists.riseup.net Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 9:55 AM Dear Pranab The next time you see such sadhus please take a lathi to them. What should be done is that GIVERS of bribes should be able to openly declare them in their income tax returns and books of accounts naming the RECEIVERS and the same should be taken as a 200% write-off like windmills and solar panels used to be as a legitimate business/professional expense. That an automated database of such Receivers must be maintained, and if more than, say,  3 different declarations  in the year are received against any public servant a mandatory CBI/CVC enquiry must ensue. Although nay-sayers (and they are many) will say this scheme is impractical because no corporate will ruin their chances of getting govt business. this is proposed by no less that the Chief Economic Advisor to the PM via the Finance Ministry (in his personal capacity).  MANDATORY READING. . http://finmin.nic.in/WorkingPaper/Act_Giving_Bribe_Legal.pdf http://www.firstpost.com/business/bribes-gradually-becoming-legal-for-the-indian-taxman-337634.html http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/03/30/kaushik-basu-says-make-bribe-giving-legal/ http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/make-bribe-taking-illegalshield-bribe-giver-basu/429335/ Sarbajit National Convenor, IAC On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Pranab Biswas <pranabnarayanb@gmail.com> wrote: Dear sir one sadhu suggested me a very interesting thing to root out corruption. if one law is changed it can solve the problem. presently those take bribe and those who give bribe both are counted equally guilty. many of individual give bribe under compulsion, otherwise their work will not be done. if those who give bribe they are protected by law and identity is kept secrect authority shall be able to know corrupt officials, politicians,etc. after proper enquiry actions are taken. the corrupt individuals shall be afraid. BUT THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE IN INDIA, AS THE LAW MAKERS ARE CORRUPT. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Naveen Thank you for remembering me. Your recollection of that matter is considerably at variance with reality so let me update you, also since I understand you are with the NAPM who have a small RTI movement in UP also. 1) I did not "lose" along with the CIC. I "won" along with the DDA. 2) The issues before the Court were A) If CIC could frame Regulations for RTI. I and the DDA said they could not. Both of us submitted our written statements to this effect. The CIC had no answer and did not file any written submissions. B) If DDA had an obligation to disclose information suo-moto under section 4 This was my issue, and it was emphatically answered in my favour C) If CIC could form a committee of enquiry of outsiders u/s 18. Both DDA and I said they could not.Both of us submitted our written statements to this effect. The CIC had no answer and did not file any written submissions. You can read the detailed judgement on DHC website (WP(C)12714/2009. Nothing to show that I "lost". The matter is now in Supreme Court as a Civil Appeal brought by the CIC. Although on "theoretical" grounds I would have preferred to side with the DDA and hammer the CIC, on practical grounds seeing the poor state of RTI in the country I am not entering appearance in the matter to give the hapless CIC a fair shot. Sarbajit National Convenor India Against Corruption, Jan Andolan On 12/23/12, Naveen Tewari <nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Sarabjit, > > Just wanted to know if you are the same person who filed a petition against > DDA which was eventually lost by you and CIC in the Delhi High Court? Did > you file an appeal against that judgement? > > Regards > > Naveen Tewari > Lucknow > > Sent from my iPhone > > On २२-१२-२०१२, at ११:४७ अपराह्न, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Dr Chaturvedi >> >> You and I  are corrupt because we were a part of God (Brahman) and need to >> be again renewed with God. >> >> Sarbajit >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dr. Sanjay Chaturvedi >> <drsanjaychaturvedi@gmail.com> wrote: >> You mean that we are corrupt because I and you are corrupt than why I and >> you are corrupt any vedic answer? >> 1/188 Delhi Gate, Agra 9412261575 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> >> Sender: iac-request@lists.riseup.net >> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:31:59 >> To: iac<iac@lists.riseup.net> >> Reply-To: iac@lists.riseup.net >> Subject: Re: [IAC++] enlighten us all those who matters >> >> WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in >> Post: iac@lists.riseup.net >> Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net >> Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/ >> >> >> WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in >> Post: iac@lists.riseup.net >> Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net >> Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/ >> >> >> >> WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in >> Post: iac@lists.riseup.net >> Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net >> Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/ > WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in Post: iac@lists.riseup.net Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/ WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in Post: iac@lists.riseup.net Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/ -----Inline Attachment Follows----- WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in Post: iac@lists.riseup.net Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/