RE: [IAC++] DEMAND -- REMOVE VIP SECURITY & GIVE TO PEOPLE

Dear Sarbajit,

Would you please substantiate each of your points refuting / trivialising my ideas. Let me see how competent you are to sit in judgement over my ideas.

With no ill will.

Kris Dev.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sarbajit Roy
Sent: 23/12/2012 8:43:17 pm
Subject: Re: [IAC++] DEMAND -- REMOVE VIP SECURITY & GIVE TO PEOPLE

Dear Kris,

I have not trivialised your idea(s) on biometrics / demonetisation.

*What I am saying is *

1) What you present is not well thought through to its logical conclusion.

2) Technological solutions by themselves are doomed to failure.

3) Your idea(s) are not radical enough and do not go far enough.

FYI: Many components of what you suggest are already contained in IAC's
vision/action plans. (Which will be revealed at the correct time to the
correct people)

Sarbajit

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, krisdev@gmail.com <krisdev@gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear all, Vidyut is bang right. We've to be innovative and try new and
> ingenious ways to kick the butt of corruption. The old orthadox methods
> have failed. Educating the public on the virtues of a corrupt free society
> is going to take generations as we are well entrenched in corruption and we
> see a strong degeneration in societal valyes over the last 67 years. Small
> corruption indulged by ordinary measely people unchallenged has grown to
> Frankenstein proportions. We are all part and parcel of this degeneration.
> We cannot sit in ivory towers and speak theories. We need to get down to
> brasstack actions on the ground.
>
> I for one have been suggesting and assisting government to eradicate
> corruption by introducing biometric tracking of transactions. The
> expetiments in Bihar is a testimony.
>
> Simultaneously the currency has to be demonetised. Once we remove Rs.
> 1,000 and Rs. 500 denomination currencies and ask people to prove their
> ownership when they surrender to banks would be the first step in the right
> direction.
>
> Sarbajit and may be others in this group are trivialising this idea. But
> I'm sure it's a workable idea. It'll remove the get rich quick, fly by
> night operators. It'll remove the power out of politicians, bureaucrats,
> businessmen, etc. when transaction tracking and transparency are
> introduced. What better opportunity than now? It's now or never. Better
> late than never.
>
> Kris Dev.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vidyut Kale
> Sent: 23/12/2012 12:36:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [IAC++] DEMAND -- REMOVE VIP SECURITY & GIVE TO PEOPLE
>
> Warning: Unparliamentary language follows.
>
> ================================
> Are we decided that this group is a permanent pissing contest? In which
> case, it doesn't make sense to invest time.
>
> If we are serious about this being a space to fight corruption and engineer
> better accountability and transparency, then the urgent need RIGHT NOW is
> to stop sneering and baiting and overall trying to prove who is the bigger
> dick. Get to work, whoever is the genius will get noticed.
>
> Or start a thread for "My halo is bigger than yours" and put all the crap
> there so people not interested can forward it to trash.
>
> I agree there are many great patriots and veterans and all kinds of
> creative and useful people here, but we need to get over the school hangup
> that there can be only one great and credible person in a given space.
>
> I thank you for bringing in all your special strengths and hope we can use
> them to kick the butt of corruption instead of deciding who is greater
> *before* doing anything.
>
> Vidyut
> PS: I am female. So avoid the Mr.Vidyut replies.
>
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