Friday, September 30, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Democracy – Why Can’t We Have Obama, Modi & Modi Everywhere

Mr.Singh seems to have a beam in his eye, since he is unable to see
the kind of havoc played by Congress all these years. Thoroughly
corrupt people had seized the State so that JP's Sampoorn Kranti had
to come to the public's rescue. Mr.Singh does not remember how the
people there had taken out a donkey with Gandhi cap on and named it
Chimanbhai Patel; so disgusted were the people with Congress.
Mr.Singh's prejudice refuses to see the revolutionary change that has
been brought about by NaMo in the prosperity of Gujarat. If in the
process some people perceive as Nazism in the hard decisions, it only
poorly reflects on their mindset. He refuses to see the kind of family
monopoly of Nehru-Gandhi family over the party and the country.
BK Verma

On 9/29/11, Ramesh Agnani <agnanir@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't agree with the mail by Ashok. Since I was involved in the roll out
> of e com in Gujarat which started in 2000- 2001 during Patel's CM ship and
> not after Modi took over as is the general belief. How ever it was completed
> and implemented with more entusiasm and vigour after Modi took over. Gujrat
> was prosperous since earlier days but only some pockets where Patels ruled
> the roost. How ever after very effective ecom and effective administrative
> controls by Modi the state today is one opf the most prosperous and caste
> divide free estate, except for some pockets. So I feel that ecom is a very
> effective tool but at the end of the day it is the implementation and proper
> monitoring with iron hand administartive control that it would become
> effective. And hence not only implementation of egov across country, I agree
> with MK it also requires political will power and a very effective leader
> with an iron hand control to make it deliver the desired
> results.
>
> Rgds
>
> Major Ramesh Agnani(Retd)
> Consultant(Telecom and Networking)
> Telnet Consultants Pvt. Ltd.,
> Tele : 011 - 25770693, Mob : 98111 18546
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ashok Bhanot <bhanotashok@hotmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011, 16:59
> Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Democracy – Why Can't We Have Obama, Modi & Modi
> Everywhere
>
>
> I think either you are biased or dont know about Gujrat. This state has
> always been a properous and advanced state infrastructure wise.
> In Feb 1971 after plane was hijacked by pakistan I moved the Army convoy
> from Pune to Jodhpur. While Rajsthan and just Class 9 road (single lane)
> Gujrat had 8 Lanes cemented roads which are still not available in most
> parts of the country even today.
> Which common man from Gujrat have you met.
> Let us be realistic and logical
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Democracy – Why Can't We Have Obama, Modi & Modi
> Everywhere
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com; progressindia008@yahoo.com
> From: mkkhera@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:17:53 +0000
>
> Gujarat today has system of doing cataract operation of animals too. You can
> imagine that all human beings are already covered for this kind of a need.
> Ask common man in Gujarat, he says ab yahan aman aur chain hai, forget the
> dog like fight between Cong and BJP. Gujarat is thriving on e gov. If we
> have a strong and powerful PM, India would be under e gov and 95 % graft is
> eradicated. Yes, we need a political party with inner and outer democracy
> but never a weak leader as we have today. your mention of Hitler or Nazism
> are both misleading. If a common person irrespective of caste, creed or
> religion is happy, that strong and powerful leader deserves to be the PM.
> Nation needs very strong, fool proof and 24/7 unfailing national e gov which
> gives jitters to all potential economic offenders day in and day out and
> sends signals to their mind that if they even think of taking any graft the
> e gov method can get them punished so badly that their gen next also
> would advise them not to do it. If u do it then u r alone in this. Gujarat
> is on its way to be that state by 2020. Warm regards,
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Ravinder Singh <corruptionfree04@gmail.com>
> Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 01:25:36 +0200
> To: Ravinder Singh<progressindia008@yahoo.com>
> ReplyTo: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Democracy – Why Can't We Have Obama , Modi & Modi
> Everywhere
>
> Democracy – Why Can't We Have Obama, Modi & Modi Everywhere
>
> Col.I, Jayakaran,
>
> I observed 2009 US Presidential Elections wanted to find out why couldn't
> India prop up an Obama and why do we see Modi & Modi everywhere analyzed
> Constitution & Conduct of Indian Political Parties and came up with
> Democratic Party of India constitution inspired and improved to work for
> India.
>
> Our Political Parties function like India Private Companies that do not
> value merit; do not accept views of juniors in cadre and families who own
> more shares run the company or appoint person of their choice to work. It is
> difficult for outsiders to join any party and given due place based on
> merit.
>
> There is no inner & outer democracy in India like we see in US Elections –
> Obama battled through inner party democratic process in every state and won
> inner party polls before finally nominated to represent Democratic Party –
> people knew his policies and programs in detail.
>
> We see Modi, Modi, Modi everywhere in Gujarat because there is no inner
> party democracy in ruling party and no body is allowed to speak against Modi
> just like Nazi Germany.
>
> Just like monsoon come suddenly there are rains, frogs comes out of soil,
> make noises and mate then disappear in about 100 days, Elections process in
> India is similar Elections are announced suddenly, Candidates crop up from
> nowhere who make wild noises and false promises and votes are cast and
> everything is wound up in 100 days then Candidates disappear for five years.
> One in ten Candidates is a winner and becomes inaccessible to majority of
> the people, he is not required to be intelligent to make decisions that are
> taken by Central Leadership and is free to make money by legal or illegal
> means or indulge in criminal activities including bootlegging, extortions,
> rape, murder and prostitution etc.
>
> Design of Democratic Party
>
> We need Democratic Party that is accessible to every citizen of India 24x365
> basis – anyone may join or leave the party, make useful contribution from
> inside or outside the party and office bearers are elected on merits alone.
>
> We have to provide an alternative.
>
> Ravinder Singh
> Inventor & Engineer
> September27, 2011

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