Re: [HumJanenge] Why Santosh Hegde MUST quit !!!

I feel that this drafting panel is being given too much 'importance' - much more than they deserve.

 

This panel only prepares a draft for the Lokpal Bill - nothing more. The bill has to still go through the regular legislative process & if it crosses all these hurdles in the parliament (both houses, one  by one), gets president's signatures & gets notified, only then it becomes a law. In this process, there are plenty of chances for those opposed to it, to make it trip somewhere along the way.

 

We can only rejoice that it has cracked open a doorway for the 'civil society' to demand some kind of accountability & good governance from the corrupt political system. Something good is bound to come of it & this kind of movement has the potential to gather force & build itself into a revolution to change the destiny of the nation. 
 

Chandra K Jain
93124 39464
INDIA

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From: Devendra Tripathi <tripathidk@yahoo.com>
To: chandra jain <ckjaininindia@yahoo.com>; "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:37:46 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Why Santosh Hegde MUST quit !!!

You may be right, Chandra, but I see one more dimension and that I find more worrisome. Some of us have different views and are very sincere and strongly committed to it. Communist party is very good example. They have successfully besieged a leading state of India for almost half a century now. I do not think that communist leaders are evil minded people (actually Jyoti Basu, I read, was most frugal and very honest politician). V. P. Singh, about whom I have a very high respect as a person, is another example. In a single move, he pushed the society back by few decades (now I hear that many people are eager to prove that they are backward!). If corruption creates problem for the economy by disrupting the institutions and processes, such people simply will not accept any process or institution that does not meet a particular standard. I do not know which one is the bigger problem!

 

Regards,
Devendra Tripathi
Cell: +1(408)416-1848

From: chandra jain <ckjaininindia@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Why Santosh Hegde MUST quit !!!

I think it is a case of severe heartburn & nothing else.

 

This drafting committee has  gathered a lot of national prestige & these five 'civil society' leaders have suddenly come under limelight. Other activists feel they should also be on some such committee.

 

I can only remind all that these five eminent 'civil society' leaders did their homework well, they presented a specific plan of action to the society & the government, worked for its implementation & garnered huge public support. It is only a beginning - the drafting committee has to come up with an acceptable draft with all its intricacies & that bill has to go through the complete legislative process before it can become a law. Other activists can start working on their possible roles in all these subsequent activities, if they want to be associated with this particular anti-graft law only. If they have better ideas/suggestions for the Lokpal Bill, these can be sent to the drafting committee & there is a mechanism to take notice of these suggestions from the 'civil society'. 

 

I am sure that if another group works diligently on another idea, say electoral reforms or picks up something else & comes up with a clear cut plan of action & is able to gather public support, they will be able to corner equal or more
publicity & get appointed to more powerful committees.

 

Instead of denigrating the work of these five or finding faults in their characters, let us work on other badly needed reforms. 

 

Chandra K Jain
93124 39464
INDIA

From: S. Anoop Kumar <s.anoopkumar@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 6:13:26 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Why Santosh Hegde MUST quit !!!

Sorry.  There is an error.   The first sentence of the message should be corrected to read as - "If the civil society members in the draft committee are "biased" in
your opinion, then perhaps you have an answer as to which side they are inclined towards and what are their selfish considerations that would benefit them."

S. Anoop Kumar.

 

 

 

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From: "S. Anoop Kumar" <s.anoopku...@gmail.com>
Date: Apr 24, 5:03 pm
Subject: Why Santosh Hegde MUST quit !!!
To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005


Dear Mr. Sarabjit Roy,

If the civil society members in the draft committee are unbiased in
your opinion, then perhaps you have an answer as to which side they
are inclined towards and what are their selfish considerations that
would benefit them.

You are disputing the very essence of Lok Pal Bill when majority of
Indians are thinking that Lok Pal is what is required and we are
already late in having such a law in place. And majority Indians
think, wish, hope and pray that such a bill would bring in some change
in governance, responsibility and accountability in governance and
delivery mechanism.

And regarding the other alternatives to the Lok Pal Bill quoted by
you, you know for sure they are not practical and implementable and
still you suggest them. I see a day dreamer in you. It clearly
appears you are personally against a set of people and you fail to see
the good intentions of these people. And you will oppose anything
and everything these people would attempt to do. Just for the sake of
opposing. Even if they can bring in some good to the society.

Regards,
S. Anoop Kumar.

On Apr 24, 11:43 am, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote: