Wednesday, November 24, 2010

Re: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna

Dear All,
It is advisable to refrain from personal vendetta.
 
Regards,
WEDS


From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 24 November, 2010 13:07:03
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna

Who said that I m speaking for Mr. Dhirendra Krishna? I am against the foul language and that too against the dignity of a lady member on the group as some other members have also agitated against that.  I request you to read my mail again and I don't have any objection to my expulsion on the issue if other members feel so.  Curiously, you have not mentioned single work against the member who made slanderous and defamatory comments against Ms. Babita. In the absence of that, should be presume that you are silently supporting the members who made such unwarranted remarks?

2.What about you who said that 600 RTI activists are suspects?  On the issue, as pointed out by another member, u have made three different statements which mismatches from each other. Has the list been uploaded on the wikileaks? If not, you kindly put a scanned copy of the list without putting a lot of papers. So far, many members have demanded the information which contains names of reputed persons such as Mr. Ratan Tata also and if the information given by you proved false, you will really deserve to be expelled for spreading disinformation and creating confusion.  I am afraid that u may not brand me an agent of Mr. Tata in your next mail.

3.However, Ms. Babita Singh has not objected to the mail sent to her by me and in the circumstances, your mail is undesirable. I stand by her against her objection for the comments.

What are the RTI volunteers going to achieve by fighting among themselves?

Copy to – Mr. Dhirendra Krishna and Ms Babita Singh.




From: young cyber indians <cyberyouth@tightmail.com>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 24 November, 2010 11:40:32 AM
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna

Dear Mr Gupta

Why are you speaking for Mr Dhirendra Krishna ? Who has authorized you
? Why do you not also complain about one and expel Rsingh631 who is
posting  racist hateful lies on rti4empowerment-yahoogroup owned by
dhirendra krishna

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti4empowerment/message/7870
Where he abuses Muslims

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti4empowerment/message/7876
Where he abuses Sikhs and calls them Khalistanis.

Do you know that these mails are originating from USA - Comcast,  to
trick people who reply into exposing their email accounts for hacking.

How many "bouncing" members has dhirendra krishna removed from
Yahoogroup. 943 bouncing members are still left ?.

I suggest that moderator of this group should also expel Mr M.K.Gupta
for spreading lies and collaborating with international gang of email
spammers and fraudsters like Urvashi Sharma, Babita Singh,
Barbrathyabali.

K.Rajeshwar Rao

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Babita ji,
>
> I strongly condemn the comment of the member against you which is
> undignified.  Mr. Dhirendra Krishan has removed that member and in future,
> and I understand that he has also got hurtled from such unsavoury remark. I
> feel that there is a need to moderate messages before uploading them on the
> blog and appeal to Shri Krishnan for the same to stop such recurrences in
> future.
>
> By joining issue with Mr. Krishnan, u will, though unwittingly, be
> strengthening the hands of the owner of the google group of the same name on
> which such uncivilized language is a part of the game and that group want
> rti4em….. @yahoo………. and all other RTI groups should be ultimately be
> closed/ merge with that.  For that, his moderators are also using unethical
> ways by adding members of this group without their consent to their group.
>
> Legal procedure is bit complicated for which u need the address of the
> member who made such comment for serving the notice.  The action will also
> give undesired publicity to this episode. As an alternative or an addition,
> the members of the blog can condemn the remark or may ask for an apology
> from the expelled member who made remarks which was in bad taste.    I am
> for the dignity of all including of the honourable ladies and no body has a
> right to play with their honour. I was also anguished after reading the
> unParliamenatry and slanderious and imtemperate language.
>
> With regard and regret for the comments by a member against you.
>
> ________________________________
> From: young cyber indians <cyberyouth@tightmail.com>
> To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 22 November, 2010 3:17:40 PM
> Subject: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna
>
> Dear Mr Krishna
>
> I'm putting this email to all RTI groups to expose you
>
> You can delete me from your group rti4empowerment but you cannot
> prevent the truth from being known
>
> In 2008 messages were sent to RTI activists like me from RTI4 groups
> by one lady from dubai Barbarathyabali. These emails had attachments
> which contained spyware to spy on RTI activists. Many members
> complained to you and you sent them email list of RTI4empowerment
> members with all details in Excel sheet. Please do not deny this. I
> analyzed and requested you to delete about 30 email IDs but you did
> not. Another member (I will not name him) also requested you to delete
> 50 names and make changes in group settings for better security.
> Barbarathyabali continues to post in your group.till recently.
>
> Even today, there are over 900 bad names in your group. Sample list is
> given below. Will you delete them also or will you continue to infect
> RTI actvist with spyware and expose them to Nigerian fraudsters who
> use bouncing email IDs to fool group members and hack their accounts.
> You have 943 bouncing members in your group of 2214.
>
> You are colluding with group of spammers from Lucknow calling
> themselves Indian National RTI forum. One of your moderators is part
> of this group and you will not remove him. You openly patronise this
> bad group but remove all good persons. Please reflect on your folly
> before it is too late.
>
> Rao
>
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