[HumJanenge] Re: what is going on in the RTI world?

Dear Mrs Dalal

I hope you dont mind getting as many mails from me as I keep getting
from you.

1) I concur that CyberCrime Mumbai may be a waste of time.

2) How do I get off this group ? This is the official answer from
google
http://groups.google.co.in/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=46608

"If you'd like to remove yourself from a Google Group ....
Reply to an email from the group with REMOVE ME as the subject of your
message."

Surely even YOU can do that !!!.

3) Who are these guys ? Well I am one of them (but not on this group).
The others are moderators or owners of various RTI groups. We are
collaborating to UNIFY various existing yahoo RTI groups on the
googlegroups platform. This includes sharing member lists with each
other. A major reason to doing this is to eliminate fake IDS and
spammers from the groups we moderate. This is akin to CIBIL which
shares info about bank defaulters. There are other reasons, such as
personality clashes between moderators of various groups. All this is
in the public domain, readable by anyone with a net connection.
http://groups.google.com/group/rti_india/browse_thread/thread/d7f882058a44bddb/f0fbcfb45f107bfc
(Please read this link carefully) It says

"Once the UNIFICATION process is complete, members of any 1 of the RTI
groups will be able to post to all the collaborating groups using
OpenID. In this way, the owners of the following OpenID groups
(RTI_India, HumJanenge and RTI4empowerment) hope that the multiple
posts which clog our member email boxes shall be greatly reduced if
not eliminated totally. We have also decided that if a member is
banned on 1 group he shall also be automatically expelled from the
other groups too. "

If you need any more help, I am here to help you.

Sarbajit Roy

On Nov 23, 6:06 pm, Sucheta Dalal <suchetada...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think cybercrime mumbai is a waste of time. But who are these guys and how
> does one even get off that group?
>
> Sucheta Dalal,
> Managing Editor, MoneyLIFE Magazine
> Trustee Moneylife Foundationwww.suchetadalal.com,http://suchetadalal.com/blog/www.moneylife.in- Tel: 022-24441060
> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> nothing." --- Edmund Burke
>
> ________________________________
> From: Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitap...@gmail.com>
> To: Sucheta Dalal <suchetada...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: humjanenge <HumJane...@yahoogroups.co.in>; humjanenge
> <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; shaileshgan...@nic.in; shailesh gandhi
> <shailesh...@gmail.com>; Mani Shankar Aiyar <msai...@hotmail.com>; Vishal
> Kudchadkar <vish...@gmail.com>; Shahid Burney <whistleblower...@yahoo.com>;
> arvind kejriwal parivartan <parivar...@parivartan.org>; yogesh sapkale
> <yog...@moneylife.in>; venkatesh nayak <nayak.venkat...@gmail.com>; vijay
> kumbhar <kvija...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 5:13:25 PM
> Subject: Re: what is going on in the RTI world?
>
> Gosh this is absolutely sick and extremely serious. Now there is no alternative
> than to lodge a complaint with the cyber crime cell. I have been trying to speak
> to DCP cyber crime since morning - should get through to him sometime today,
> Sucheta, pl lodge a complaint at the cyber crime cell, Mumbai. What else can we
> do, pl give suggestions.
> vinita
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Sucheta Dalal <suchetada...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >What on earth is going on???? they are now filing defamatory stuff against me. I
> >have never posted anything as mentioned by Ashish Kumar> And who is this
> >Raminder ... will someone from the RTI groups please explain what is going on
> >here?
>
> >I don't even want to be part of these groups. I was part of Mahadhikar and
> >Humjanenge when Kewal Semlani and Prakash Kardelay were alive. If anybody
> >follows the groups, you would know that I never ever post.
>
> >I have only reacted becuase I have been put on the googlegroup without my
> >consent and was bombarded with email from them.
>
> >sucheta Dalal
>
> >Re: [HummJanenge] Sucheta Dalal's email
> >Friends
>
> >Speaking as somebody in the media, it is clear to everyone that Indian media is
> >riddled with corruption. Journos who get freebies and junkets to write slanted
> >stories. Vir Sanghvis who promise something to 1 industrialist's lobbyist over
> >breakfast then take money from his brother's lobbyist at lunch to write
> >something unpalatable to both. No wonder the man is so fat / gross. The less
> >said about Barkha Dutt the better.
>
> >In Sucheta Dalal's case, we have a pillar of the 5th estate who ostensibly
> >writes about stock market manipulations by broker syndicates/ cartels and SEBI's
> >lack of regulation. Who feeds her these stories ? For years Shankar Sharma
> >(First Global) was held up by her as giving 75% good stock tips based on their
> >research. Then she changed her tune when the Tehelka mess began (including
> >Tehelka's unaccounted sources of finance and price rigging). Some days Ms Dalal
> >favours the big bulls, next day she runs down big bears like Nirmal Bang and
> >Anand Rathi. Can we believe her. Someday audio tapes of Mrs
> >Dalal's conversations with brokers will leak out, or somebody should apply for
> >them in RTI from Income Tax or SEBI.
>
> >The final irony is in her threat to use the police to shut down this group.
>
> >Raminder
>
> >On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:40 AM, ashish kumar <ashishkr1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >Ms Sucheta Dalal has posted an email to some RTI groups with the title
> >>"Re: Serious privacy breach by IC A.Dixit".
>
> >>In her email she asserts that she is a friend of Central Information
> >>Commissioner Shailesh Gandhi. But more importantly she attempts to
> >>divert attention from the list of 40 names in the CIC proposed for the
> >>5th RTI convention by the then CIC Wajahat Habibullah. Mr Habibullah
> >>must explain why these names were posted to CIC website in
> >>IC.Annapurna Dixit's name under "CIC Orders".
>
> >>Let us have a few (say 1 from 2) of these.controversial names
>
> >>1. Mr Jean Dreze
> >>2. Dr Subir Gokarn
> >>3. Prof Kaushik Basu
> >>4. Mr Anand Mahindra
> >>5. Mr Yogi Deveshwar
> >>6. Mr Ratan Tata
> >>7. Mr Mukesh Ambani
> >>8. Mr O.P.Bhatt
> >>9. Mr Gajendra Haldea
> >>10. Mr S.K.Roongta
> >>11. Mr N.R.Narayanmurthy
> >>12. Mr Azim Premji
> >>13. Mr Kumarmangalam Birla
> >>14. Mr Rahul Gandhi
> >>15. Ms Brinda Karat
> >>16. Mr Arun Shourie
> >>17. Smt Kanimozhi
> >>18. Mr Vinod Mehta
> >>19. Ms Shabana Azmi
> >>20. Ms Nalini Singh
>
> >>Can Smt Dalal identify even 1 clean person in this shortlist, which
> >>lists people very well known to her personally, from the
> >>"politician-media--industrialist nexus" lobby which Habibullah
> >>repeatedly drags into the CIC If not then why is she so quick to
> >>divert attention from these names ? Considering her open friendship
> >>with Shailesh perhaps Ms Dalal's name would be proposed to be a
> >>speaker at the 6th RTI convention, right up there with Nira Radia's.
>
> >>Ashish
>
> >Sucheta Dalal,
> >Managing Editor, MoneyLIFE Magazine
> >Trustee Moneylife Foundation
> >www.suchetadalal.com,http://suchetadalal.com/blog/
> >www.moneylife.in- Tel: 022-24441060
> >"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> >nothing." --- Edmund Burke