Sunday, November 20, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation

Dear all,

My humble request to you please support the government till the mess is over.

Now the ban has come to full effect, we can criticise the process of execution but the need of time to support it. You all can be agree with me on this at least now this ban can not be rolled back.

I am also suffering as each one of you for cash crunch.

You all will have plenty of time to abuse the PM later on.

At least trust the hope of common citizens. What do you have to lose??
PM is not taking away the money. Its just lying in our accounts.

There could be disagreement for the execution part but no one can point finger at the intention.

Which government want to invite  the public ire upon himself? Perhaps our PM does not want their vote for second term!!!
I think for disinterested people this logic could be more logical.

We all get burnt of politcs, corruption and all lies over and over again. But please remember hopes are not crushed yet. Till then be positive.

Thanks to all

On Nov 20, 2016 21:46, truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
It is rather painful to sent intellectuals falling prey to professional political propaganda. If you are hard BJP cadre or sympathiser there is no issue. No amount of logic can convince you. I must mention here that BJP is apack of lies. Congress is no better. Please, please don't look at this politically. The objectives of demonetisation as claimed is as follows:
1. To eradicate graft ( corruption )
2. To bring out black money.
3. To counter terror funding
4. To counter drug money and
5. To nullify counterfeit currency.
To intention is lofty, laudable and succinct. But, what is reality? The money amassed as cash has become worthless. As gold and other forms remain. That too, old notes are converted into new and stashed. At 30% commission, new notes are available for old. We havyoue paved way for another source for black money. NO action on the corrupt; he didn't have a change of heart; he continues to take bribes; this time with 2000 rupee notes instead of the normal 1000 rupee notes! Check in any government office or RTO.
All who have had black money have converted it into White through as many means they had at their disposal. I can not enumerate all of them here. If you take village wise collection, you will be astonished.
Terror and drugs are international subjects. They do not deal in mundane Indian rupees.
By your action you have withdrawn 85% of the money from the economy. Middle and poor class are suffering. You have destroyed two tenets of modern society.
i ) Money in the bank is my own; I can draw it anytime and do whatever I want with it.
ii ) ATM is a machine where I can draw my money at any time.
How disgraceful! The deposits you claim to have collected are not black money, drug money or graft money. It is the poor man's savings. All White and legal. What rights you have to restrict my marriage expenses to 2.5 lakhs while witnessing a 500 crore wedding? Has BJP submitted its election expenses? I am not a congressman. I will never ever be. Watch what U.P. and others are going to verdict now.
By this stupid action, we have got into one more quagmire. No ATM can handle 100s,500s,1000s and 2000s notes at the same tlme. Regards


from Holly2 Plus


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation
From: LC M
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net,Gopalkrishnan iyer ," truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com"
CC:


It is common knowledge that there is no single mechanism to handle corruption anywhere in the world. Demonetisations help for a while and thus has a useful role.
Few snags in implementation in a huge population and economy need not make us furious.
Government is serious and needs support of the people.
LCMonga


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Friday, November 18, 2016, 10:21 AM, Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com> wrote:

Does it mean that   we should not adopt any measures to curb black and counterfeit money!!? Ok, the two earlier attempts, by people of different intelect  have not been successful and we do not know the extent of impact they had as the media was not advanced as it is today! Now let us see how we can support and fine tune the situation, having plunged into it, not possible to enquire with 1.3 billion about what could be the possible implications! Let us all prop up and support the government without praying and wishing for the failure of the government as it will be the failure of all of us!! At least this will help us learn how we could deal with the next time, should there be pile up of the evil of illegal mopney!!


On Friday, 18 November 2016 9:55 AM, "truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Demonetisation is perhaps the most stupid decision taken by the government. We have our reasons.
1. Two earlier demonetisations in 1946 & 1978 has not produced the desired results.
2. There is NO hard and fast rule that terrorism must be financed by local currency only.
3. It can not stop corruption as claimed. A corrupt official will continue to be corrupt no matter what the denomination is. Now they will demand more justifying the ' loss ' he has suffered in the move by Modiji.
4. For black money holders this is only a temporary set back. After all he didn't earn it with his sweat and blood. Black money is an outcome of a man's dishonesty. You can not curb it with cancellation of his black capital.
5. There is no incentive for being honest in India. Corrupt and dishonest amass wealth and power to rule over the honest and straight forward.
6. They should have arranged for alternative currency before declaring. For the last one week, banks were prevented from operating normally. ATMs work only partially before ' cash out '
7. How can the banks restrict me from drawing my own money purely owing to their folly?
8.Is it right to freeze 14.5 lakh crores to flush out 400 crores of counterfeit notes.
9. Check the price of gold, exchange rate of U.S. dollars. They are the real indicaters of prosperity.
10. Above all, the rulers know they have commitment a blunder; but do not have the humility to admit it.
Mark my words: nothing is going to change in 50 days. If at all, it will become much worse. Modiji can achieve nothing with the corrupt beaurocrats and politicians around him.
Regards

from Holly2 Plus


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation
From: LC M
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net,indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC:


I consider it unfortunate that an excellent scheme of the PM is criticised on flimsy grounds.
The scheme has halted progress of fake money and activities of terrorism and that by itself is a good achievement.
LCM 


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On Thursday, November 17, 2016, 10:30 AM, rohit kumar Jha <rohiticeas2011@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit roy,

Let me ask you a simple question !!

How much black money u have lost out of Demonetisation???

or will be losing it....when 85% of the economic survey has voted with positive reply why only IAC is against it ....
Hope this is not the same arvind kejriwals aganda ....if this is the one then please let me know how to unsubscribe me.....

this is the real face of the people who fight for corruption just for the sake of improving corruption ....

I openly go against the language used by IAC member on our prime minister ... 

IAC's suggestion for Mr. Modi is as follows - FIRST PUT Rs. 15 ;lakhs into BANK ACCOUNT of every Indian, and then do whatever the f**k you want to do.

let me remind you people that government or BJP had never said that it will put 15 lAKHS ON EVERY account it was congress which had come out saying so ....please provide one video where Mr.modi has said that every account will have 15 lakhs .....

Shame on IAC ......its not india against corruption anymore ....its I am congress ......unsubscribe immediately or remove sarabjit roy from IAC 

Thank and regards 

Rohit Kumar  

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
We don't think that this is the time to focus on petty corruption or vague sectoral targeting when there are about 600 names constituting 80% of India's corruption in public domain

IAC has always believed that it is more important that investigative resources be focussed on big fish rather than dissipated over small fry.

It is self-evident that this latest demonetiiztion scam  is well planned by BJP to

a) Influence outcomes of elections in UP and Punjab

b) to distract from rampant corruption in BJP Govt at Centre and mega deals involving personal cronies of Mr. Modi

c) to subjugate the common people by showing them their true place in the scheme of things.

d) make massive money from OHD note replacement.

e) distract from Panama papers and other Wiki-leaked documents.

It is really funny to see all the spin doctors and apologists for Mr. Modi justifying why new notes ought not be pumped into the system and common man should be prepared to suffer in national interest while Mr. Modi is busy enjoying his (vegetarian) sushi in Japan.

IAC's suggestion for Mr. Modi is as follows - FIRST PUT Rs. 15 ;lakhs into BANK ACCOUNT of every Indian, and then do whatever the f**k you want to do.

Sarbajit

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Dr. Munish Raizada <pedia333@gmail.com> wrote:
Do not forget Doctors, jewllers.

On Nov 15, 2016 12:04 PM, "AK Bhattacharyya" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
All energy should be directed towards the following categories of people 
1]Lawyers 
2=Chartered Accountants 
3] Real Estate Dealers 
4]Quick rich Politicians
The mission should be professionally executed.
 
With kind regards 
A.K.BHATTACHARYYA


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Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation

Objective of demonetisation is - demonetisation. Decision was taken. Implementation process is ongoing. Many citizens - stood, still standing and surely will stand on long queues - to do what they decide to do. 

While appreciating the worries of many I still question the perception and the notion - that poor are getting affected. If they do - then they are affected by others around them. Example: if one gives a Rs. 2,000/ note to a vegetable seller then one surely is punishing the seller.

Every governmental decision needs to be scrutinized at all levels. Yet, once a decision is made then it needs execution. Governments have been blamed umpteenth time not have executed what they have planned. 

Citizens know how to cope with such governmental decisions and they are coping and taking this on their strides. Households need to be managed seamlessly and each household - including dissenters - are doing so seamlessly. 

Critiquing - strengthens one who is criticized. They enable ushering differential views and add to the body of questions that need to be reasoned to determine and conclude to decision making. 

My only request - to all learned subscribers to IAC platform - is - please share your own experience or share first hand experience of some one you yourself have heard and validated. 

Let us make this platform rich with shared experiences for a better future.

Amitava Sanyal 





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-------- Original message --------
From: "truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: 11-20-2016 11:12 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: LC M <lcmonga@yahoo.co.in>, indiaresists@lists.riseup.net, Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation

It is rather painful to sent intellectuals falling prey to professional political propaganda. If you are hard BJP cadre or sympathiser there is no issue. No amount of logic can convince you. I must mention here that BJP is apack of lies. Congress is no better. Please, please don't look at this politically. The objectives of demonetisation as claimed is as follows:
1. To eradicate graft ( corruption )
2. To bring out black money.
3. To counter terror funding
4. To counter drug money and
5. To nullify counterfeit currency.
To intention is lofty, laudable and succinct. But, what is reality? The money amassed as cash has become worthless. As gold and other forms remain. That too, old notes are converted into new and stashed. At 30% commission, new notes are available for old. We havyoue paved way for another source for black money. NO action on the corrupt; he didn't have a change of heart; he continues to take bribes; this time with 2000 rupee notes instead of the normal 1000 rupee notes! Check in any government office or RTO.
All who have had black money have converted it into White through as many means they had at their disposal. I can not enumerate all of them here. If you take village wise collection, you will be astonished.
Terror and drugs are international subjects. They do not deal in mundane Indian rupees.
By your action you have withdrawn 85% of the money from the economy. Middle and poor class are suffering. You have destroyed two tenets of modern society.
i ) Money in the bank is my own; I can draw it anytime and do whatever I want with it.
ii ) ATM is a machine where I can draw my money at any time.
How disgraceful! The deposits you claim to have collected are not black money, drug money or graft money. It is the poor man's savings. All White and legal. What rights you have to restrict my marriage expenses to 2.5 lakhs while witnessing a 500 crore wedding? Has BJP submitted its election expenses? I am not a congressman. I will never ever be. Watch what U.P. and others are going to verdict now.
By this stupid action, we have got into one more quagmire. No ATM can handle 100s,500s,1000s and 2000s notes at the same tlme. Regards


from Holly2 Plus


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation
From: LC M
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net,Gopalkrishnan iyer ," truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com"
CC:


It is common knowledge that there is no single mechanism to handle corruption anywhere in the world. Demonetisations help for a while and thus has a useful role.
Few snags in implementation in a huge population and economy need not make us furious.
Government is serious and needs support of the people.
LCMonga


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Friday, November 18, 2016, 10:21 AM, Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com> wrote:

Does it mean that   we should not adopt any measures to curb black and counterfeit money!!? Ok, the two earlier attempts, by people of different intelect  have not been successful and we do not know the extent of impact they had as the media was not advanced as it is today! Now let us see how we can support and fine tune the situation, having plunged into it, not possible to enquire with 1.3 billion about what could be the possible implications! Let us all prop up and support the government without praying and wishing for the failure of the government as it will be the failure of all of us!! At least this will help us learn how we could deal with the next time, should there be pile up of the evil of illegal mopney!!


On Friday, 18 November 2016 9:55 AM, "truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Demonetisation is perhaps the most stupid decision taken by the government. We have our reasons.
1. Two earlier demonetisations in 1946 & 1978 has not produced the desired results.
2. There is NO hard and fast rule that terrorism must be financed by local currency only.
3. It can not stop corruption as claimed. A corrupt official will continue to be corrupt no matter what the denomination is. Now they will demand more justifying the ' loss ' he has suffered in the move by Modiji.
4. For black money holders this is only a temporary set back. After all he didn't earn it with his sweat and blood. Black money is an outcome of a man's dishonesty. You can not curb it with cancellation of his black capital.
5. There is no incentive for being honest in India. Corrupt and dishonest amass wealth and power to rule over the honest and straight forward.
6. They should have arranged for alternative currency before declaring. For the last one week, banks were prevented from operating normally. ATMs work only partially before ' cash out '
7. How can the banks restrict me from drawing my own money purely owing to their folly?
8.Is it right to freeze 14.5 lakh crores to flush out 400 crores of counterfeit notes.
9. Check the price of gold, exchange rate of U.S. dollars. They are the real indicaters of prosperity.
10. Above all, the rulers know they have commitment a blunder; but do not have the humility to admit it.
Mark my words: nothing is going to change in 50 days. If at all, it will become much worse. Modiji can achieve nothing with the corrupt beaurocrats and politicians around him.
Regards

from Holly2 Plus


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation
From: LC M
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net,indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC:


I consider it unfortunate that an excellent scheme of the PM is criticised on flimsy grounds.
The scheme has halted progress of fake money and activities of terrorism and that by itself is a good achievement.
LCM 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, November 17, 2016, 10:30 AM, rohit kumar Jha <rohiticeas2011@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit roy,

Let me ask you a simple question !!

How much black money u have lost out of Demonetisation???

or will be losing it....when 85% of the economic survey has voted with positive reply why only IAC is against it ....
Hope this is not the same arvind kejriwals aganda ....if this is the one then please let me know how to unsubscribe me.....

this is the real face of the people who fight for corruption just for the sake of improving corruption ....

I openly go against the language used by IAC member on our prime minister ... 

IAC's suggestion for Mr. Modi is as follows - FIRST PUT Rs. 15 ;lakhs into BANK ACCOUNT of every Indian, and then do whatever the f**k you want to do.

let me remind you people that government or BJP had never said that it will put 15 lAKHS ON EVERY account it was congress which had come out saying so ....please provide one video where Mr.modi has said that every account will have 15 lakhs .....

Shame on IAC ......its not india against corruption anymore ....its I am congress ......unsubscribe immediately or remove sarabjit roy from IAC 

Thank and regards 

Rohit Kumar  

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
We don't think that this is the time to focus on petty corruption or vague sectoral targeting when there are about 600 names constituting 80% of India's corruption in public domain

IAC has always believed that it is more important that investigative resources be focussed on big fish rather than dissipated over small fry.

It is self-evident that this latest demonetiiztion scam  is well planned by BJP to

a) Influence outcomes of elections in UP and Punjab

b) to distract from rampant corruption in BJP Govt at Centre and mega deals involving personal cronies of Mr. Modi

c) to subjugate the common people by showing them their true place in the scheme of things.

d) make massive money from OHD note replacement.

e) distract from Panama papers and other Wiki-leaked documents.

It is really funny to see all the spin doctors and apologists for Mr. Modi justifying why new notes ought not be pumped into the system and common man should be prepared to suffer in national interest while Mr. Modi is busy enjoying his (vegetarian) sushi in Japan.

IAC's suggestion for Mr. Modi is as follows - FIRST PUT Rs. 15 ;lakhs into BANK ACCOUNT of every Indian, and then do whatever the f**k you want to do.

Sarbajit

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Dr. Munish Raizada <pedia333@gmail.com> wrote:
Do not forget Doctors, jewllers.

On Nov 15, 2016 12:04 PM, "AK Bhattacharyya" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
All energy should be directed towards the following categories of people 
1]Lawyers 
2=Chartered Accountants 
3] Real Estate Dealers 
4]Quick rich Politicians
The mission should be professionally executed.
 
With kind regards 
A.K.BHATTACHARYYA


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Re: [IAC#RG] Did Modi receive over Rs 55 crore from the Sahara Group as the chief minister of Gujarat?

Hi all,
           People love leader like Abdul kalaam.real leaders don't self promote.why is issues related like Narmada bachao,deonar dumping ground in Mumbai not supported.
Leaders who really wants to work will never need any support and self promoting people Alway crave for support.
If modi is  man of  good intentions ,the universe will support him.s o don't worry about Mr modi.
Thanks .
Indira.


On 19-Nov-2016 1:08 am, "Abhishek singh" <abhi.sunny89@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I am not sure if I should share my view here but could'nt control myself.

If  Modi Ji fails in his fight against corruption and black money, no PM of India will have the courage to take this issue again on his agenda for next 100 years and corrupt politicians, beaurocrates, police, criminals and businessman will keep looting this country as their birth right so it is the duty of every resposible citizen to stand in support of PM Modi and fail the evil design of corrupt people to incite violence and create anarchy.
If we fail to do our duty today, our children and grandchildren will never forgive us and we will be responsible for not giving them a clean India.
I am proud of my Prime Minister Modi Ji.

I just wanted to know your view on above.

Thanks,
Abhishek


On 19 Nov 2016 12:16 am, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Did Modi receive over Rs 55 crore from the Sahara Group as the chief minister of Gujarat?

By PARANJOY GUHA THAKURTA | 18 November 2016

The documents, which have been doing the rounds in New Delhi for the last few months, suggest that during his tenure as chief minister of Gujarat, Modi—along with a number of important politicians—was paid large amounts of cash by individuals associated with Subrata Roy, the founder-chairman of the Sahara India Group.

..

These documents also suggest that the recipients of such favours included, among others: Shivraj Singh Chouhan, the chief minister of Madhya Pradesh; Raman Singh, the chief minister of Chhattisgarh; Shaina NC, the treasurer for the Bharatiya Janata party in Maharashtra and; Sheila Dikshit, the former chief minister of Delhi.


After documents are seized by income tax officials during a raid, these are examined and evaluated by a different officer who then prepares a detailed "appraisal report" outlining the possible future course of action. According to a report by Ritu Sarin and Pragya Kaushika, published in the Indian Express on 16 November, a voluminous appraisal report running into "thousands of pages" on the papers pertaining to Sahara has been prepared and is being looked into by an assessment officer.


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Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation

It is common knowledge that there is no single mechanism to handle corruption anywhere in the world. Demonetisations help for a while and thus has a useful role.
Few snags in implementation in a huge population and economy need not make us furious.
Government is serious and needs support of the people.
LCMonga


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Friday, November 18, 2016, 10:21 AM, Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com> wrote:

Does it mean that   we should not adopt any measures to curb black and counterfeit money!!? Ok, the two earlier attempts, by people of different intelect  have not been successful and we do not know the extent of impact they had as the media was not advanced as it is today! Now let us see how we can support and fine tune the situation, having plunged into it, not possible to enquire with 1.3 billion about what could be the possible implications! Let us all prop up and support the government without praying and wishing for the failure of the government as it will be the failure of all of us!! At least this will help us learn how we could deal with the next time, should there be pile up of the evil of illegal mopney!!


On Friday, 18 November 2016 9:55 AM, "truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Demonetisation is perhaps the most stupid decision taken by the government. We have our reasons.
1. Two earlier demonetisations in 1946 & 1978 has not produced the desired results.
2. There is NO hard and fast rule that terrorism must be financed by local currency only.
3. It can not stop corruption as claimed. A corrupt official will continue to be corrupt no matter what the denomination is. Now they will demand more justifying the ' loss ' he has suffered in the move by Modiji.
4. For black money holders this is only a temporary set back. After all he didn't earn it with his sweat and blood. Black money is an outcome of a man's dishonesty. You can not curb it with cancellation of his black capital.
5. There is no incentive for being honest in India. Corrupt and dishonest amass wealth and power to rule over the honest and straight forward.
6. They should have arranged for alternative currency before declaring. For the last one week, banks were prevented from operating normally. ATMs work only partially before ' cash out '
7. How can the banks restrict me from drawing my own money purely owing to their folly?
8.Is it right to freeze 14.5 lakh crores to flush out 400 crores of counterfeit notes.
9. Check the price of gold, exchange rate of U.S. dollars. They are the real indicaters of prosperity.
10. Above all, the rulers know they have commitment a blunder; but do not have the humility to admit it.
Mark my words: nothing is going to change in 50 days. If at all, it will become much worse. Modiji can achieve nothing with the corrupt beaurocrats and politicians around him.
Regards

from Holly2 Plus


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Demonetisation
From: LC M
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net,indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC:


I consider it unfortunate that an excellent scheme of the PM is criticised on flimsy grounds.
The scheme has halted progress of fake money and activities of terrorism and that by itself is a good achievement.
LCM 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, November 17, 2016, 10:30 AM, rohit kumar Jha <rohiticeas2011@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit roy,

Let me ask you a simple question !!

How much black money u have lost out of Demonetisation???

or will be losing it....when 85% of the economic survey has voted with positive reply why only IAC is against it ....
Hope this is not the same arvind kejriwals aganda ....if this is the one then please let me know how to unsubscribe me.....

this is the real face of the people who fight for corruption just for the sake of improving corruption ....

I openly go against the language used by IAC member on our prime minister ... 

IAC's suggestion for Mr. Modi is as follows - FIRST PUT Rs. 15 ;lakhs into BANK ACCOUNT of every Indian, and then do whatever the f**k you want to do.

let me remind you people that government or BJP had never said that it will put 15 lAKHS ON EVERY account it was congress which had come out saying so ....please provide one video where Mr.modi has said that every account will have 15 lakhs .....

Shame on IAC ......its not india against corruption anymore ....its I am congress ......unsubscribe immediately or remove sarabjit roy from IAC 

Thank and regards 

Rohit Kumar  

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
We don't think that this is the time to focus on petty corruption or vague sectoral targeting when there are about 600 names constituting 80% of India's corruption in public domain

IAC has always believed that it is more important that investigative resources be focussed on big fish rather than dissipated over small fry.

It is self-evident that this latest demonetiiztion scam  is well planned by BJP to

a) Influence outcomes of elections in UP and Punjab

b) to distract from rampant corruption in BJP Govt at Centre and mega deals involving personal cronies of Mr. Modi

c) to subjugate the common people by showing them their true place in the scheme of things.

d) make massive money from OHD note replacement.

e) distract from Panama papers and other Wiki-leaked documents.

It is really funny to see all the spin doctors and apologists for Mr. Modi justifying why new notes ought not be pumped into the system and common man should be prepared to suffer in national interest while Mr. Modi is busy enjoying his (vegetarian) sushi in Japan.

IAC's suggestion for Mr. Modi is as follows - FIRST PUT Rs. 15 ;lakhs into BANK ACCOUNT of every Indian, and then do whatever the f**k you want to do.

Sarbajit

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Dr. Munish Raizada <pedia333@gmail.com> wrote:
Do not forget Doctors, jewllers.

On Nov 15, 2016 12:04 PM, "AK Bhattacharyya" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
All energy should be directed towards the following categories of people 
1]Lawyers 
2=Chartered Accountants 
3] Real Estate Dealers 
4]Quick rich Politicians
The mission should be professionally executed.
 
With kind regards 
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Re: [IAC#RG] Did Modi receive over Rs 55 crore from the Sahara Group as the chief minister of Gujarat?

Why do we always think that only one sided views are correct? If somebody expresses a view we should have the grace to take it as such.
Why the reaction????
Amit 



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-------- Original message --------
From: kameswar elangbam <dreksingh@gmail.com>
Date: 19/11/2016 10:33 am (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Did Modi receive over Rs 55 crore from the Sahara Group as the chief minister of Gujarat?

Dear All,

I am terribly disgusted the way some corrupted journalist or individuals having fixed agenda has infiltrated IAC and attempts made to project their views, better stop or delete such messages. Members of such characters, credential should be checked and reject otherwise the very essence of IAC will disappear and no patriotic nationalist persons will join this platform.

Dr K S Elangbam




On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Abhishek singh <abhi.sunny89@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I am not sure if I should share my view here but could'nt control myself.

If  Modi Ji fails in his fight against corruption and black money, no PM of India will have the courage to take this issue again on his agenda for next 100 years and corrupt politicians, beaurocrates, police, criminals and businessman will keep looting this country as their birth right so it is the duty of every resposible citizen to stand in support of PM Modi and fail the evil design of corrupt people to incite violence and create anarchy.
If we fail to do our duty today, our children and grandchildren will never forgive us and we will be responsible for not giving them a clean India.
I am proud of my Prime Minister Modi Ji.

I just wanted to know your view on above.

Thanks,
Abhishek


On 19 Nov 2016 12:16 am, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Did Modi receive over Rs 55 crore from the Sahara Group as the chief minister of Gujarat?

By PARANJOY GUHA THAKURTA | 18 November 2016

The documents, which have been doing the rounds in New Delhi for the last few months, suggest that during his tenure as chief minister of Gujarat, Modi—along with a number of important politicians—was paid large amounts of cash by individuals associated with Subrata Roy, the founder-chairman of the Sahara India Group.

..

These documents also suggest that the recipients of such favours included, among others: Shivraj Singh Chouhan, the chief minister of Madhya Pradesh; Raman Singh, the chief minister of Chhattisgarh; Shaina NC, the treasurer for the Bharatiya Janata party in Maharashtra and; Sheila Dikshit, the former chief minister of Delhi.


After documents are seized by income tax officials during a raid, these are examined and evaluated by a different officer who then prepares a detailed “appraisal report” outlining the possible future course of action. According to a report by Ritu Sarin and Pragya Kaushika, published in the Indian Express on 16 November, a voluminous appraisal report running into “thousands of pages” on the papers pertaining to Sahara has been prepared and is being looked into by an assessment officer.


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Re: [IAC#RG] Did Modi receive over Rs 55 crore from the Sahara Group asthe chief minister of Gujarat?

Dear Mr. Nalapat

Many thanks for your intervention to remind us that the honest have nothing to fear.

Perhaps it is better that we discuss some dishonest elements of our polity ? eg.

1) Sometime early this year Mr. Arun Jaitley slipped in an amendment to the Finance Bill, redefining 'Foreign' as 'Indian' for FCRA violations. Although at the time it was reported as being to get the BJP/Congress off the hook in the Vedanta payoff scam, it is now very clear this was actually done to route payments back to the ruling BJP in mega defence and other mega deals.

2) For instance foreign arms suppliers like Dassault./ Rosobornexport etc. will be able to legally route kickbacks through Indian JVs upto the limits specified where trusted people close to Mr. Modi are omni-present. The Dassault deal for Rafale jet fighters clearly indicates inevitability of such things happening espcially since the deal is apparently closed at 200% of the price Congress contracted and Mr. Anil Ambani's firm/s is now involved. Was it not also curious that Mr. Modi manufactured the aftermath of the Uri incident to slip this deal (and mega deals with Russia) past the Indian public's notoriously short-term memory ?

3) IAC is unable to understand why is Mr. Modi personally intervening to take credit for each of these actions like post-Uri, Demonetisation etc. unless he is personally benefitting in some way. Under these circumstances how can a common man believe that BJP is an honest party ?

4) Mr. Modi is also intent on turning his Govt into a rubber stamp assembly line for processing dubious deals. File notings have virtually stopped, and honest/dissident officers are shunted off. Outsiders of integrity who hold differing / contrarian views are not allowed to meet Modi and he has become very inaccessible beyond his charmed "yes men" circle of Ajit Doval and Nripendra Mishra. All these are troubling / fascist symptoms and do not bode well for BJP in medium term or for honest outspoken Indians.

Sarbajit Roy


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Madhav Nalapat <mdnalapat@gmail.com> wrote:
The honest have nothing to fear from the filthiest abuse. Freedom of speech is worth the annoyance of listening to disagreeable views

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*देश मे रहना है तो ढाई लाख का हिसाब देना पङेगा वरना 9000 करोड़ लेकर देश छोङ दो*

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[IAC#RG] Complaint - Dubious educational qualifications of GOPAL MOHAN your anti-corruption advisor

To:
Chief Minister of Delhi

By EMAIL

Dear Arvind

This is my 3rd and final email to you on the following issues directly linked to the question of your personal honesty/integrity and your capacity to run an honest Government.

1) Kindly obtain and disclose to me IMMEDIATELY the educational qualifications of Mr. Gopal Mohan your anti-corruption advisor, since all the information obtained by me indicates he is evidently an impersonator / fraud who is deceiving the world that he is an  electronics engineer degree holder from IIT Delhi and/or a Ph.D from IIT Delhi.

2) Kindly disclose to me the reasons why you nominated Ms. Swati Maliwal as Chairperson of Delhi Commission for Women (DCW) .

3) Kindly disclose why Chairperson DCW Ms. Swati Maliwal after leveling allegations, during a public press conference of DCW along with the other members appointed along with her, imputing inter-alia that Dr. Harsh Vardhan (".. Our investigation has indicated the involvement of a Union minister and a Delhi leader of a leading national party in the illegal flesh trade in GB Road brothels .." ) is involved in running brothels at GB Road is now silent on this issue, and if this alarming information with DCW has been reported to the special police officer for Delhi appointed under The Suppression Of Immoral Traffic In Women And Girls Act for proper investigation under the law of the land.

NB: It is exactly 2 months since Ms. Maliwal had promised to reveal these details "soon".

Sincerely




Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024
Tel : +91-8010205897

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
To:
Chief Minister of Delhi

By EMAIL

Dear Chief Minister

I refer to my email complaint dt. 05.11.2016 subject "CORRUPTION COMPLAINT : Vigilance Department of GNCTD"

I am REMINDING you to publicly clarify the educational qualifications of your anti-Corruption Advisor Mr.Gopal Mohan who is publicly impersonating as IIT Delhi degree holder, PhD from IIT Delhi and what not.

I am caused to remind you to honour your protestations to transparency because Mr. Gopal Mohan has repeatedly misused your personal office to access sting records from the 1031 anti-corruption helpline.

I am highly aggrieved that 9 complaints I lodged to 1031 were not inquired into, apparently because Shri Gopal Mohan entered into "settings" with the offenders and not a single person was investigated.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi -110024
Tel : +91-8010205897


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