Sunday, April 7, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: Forget Gujarat: Look at the Congress Record: It is Shocking

Dear Sarabjit,

Greetings.

Like you, I am not politically affiliated to any party and do support persons or parties based on issues or merits, from time to time.

While attempting never to forget judicial activism and media hype in case of NaMo for post Godhra Rajdharm, I feel obliged, without any political bias and purely advocating Rajdharm of Governments in power in state or center, the following is the worst ever example of forgotten Rajdharm by Government and duty by media:

Date: 22 May 1987.
State Chief Minister: Vir Bahadur Singh, INC
Prime Minister: Rajiv Gandhi, INC
Killed: 42 persons allegedly by PAC-state.
Inquiry Commissions: *Sachar & IK Gujarat -Report dated: 23/06/1987.
State Inquiry: In 1988, (After 1 Year) the Government of In 1988, the Government of Uttar Pradesh ordered an inquiry by the Crime Branch Central Investigation Department (CBCID) of Uttar Pradesh Police. The three-member official investigation team headed by former auditor general Gian Prakash submitted its report in 1994,[13] though it wasn't made public till 1995, when victims moved the Lucknow Bench of the Allahabad High Court.

Judicial Result: After the inquiry, chargesheet was filed with the Chief Judicial Magistrate (CJM), Ghaziabad in 1996 under Section 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC), who subsequently issued warrants to the accused policemen to appear before the court. Bailable warrants were issued 23 times against them between 1994 and 2000, yet none of them appeared in court. This was followed by non-bailable warrants which were issued 17 times between April 1998 and April 2000, to no avail. Eventually, under public pressure, 16 of the accused surrendered before the Ghaziabad court in 2000, and were subsequently released on bail and were back in service.


Short Narration:

Hashimpura massacre took place on 22 May 1987, during the Hindu-Muslim riots in Meerut city in Uttar Pradesh state, India, when 19 personnel of the Provincial Armed Constabulary (PAC) allegedly rounded up 42 Muslim youth from the Hashimpura mohalla (locality) of the city, took them in truck to the outskirts, near Murad Nagar, in Ghaziabad district, where they were shot and their bodies were dumped in water canals. A few days later dead bodies were found floating in the canals. In May 2000, 16 of the 19 accused surrendered, and were later released on bail, while 3 were already dead. The trial of the case was transferred by the Supreme Court of India in 2002 from Ghaziabad to a Sessions Court at the Tis Hazari complex in Delhi,[1][2] where it is the oldest pending case.[3]

On 24 May 2007, twenty years after the incident, two survivors and members of 36 victim families visited Lucknow and filed 615 applications under The Right to Information Act 2005(RTI), at the office of Director General of Police seeking information about the case.[4] The inquiry revealed in September that all accused remained in service, and none had any mention of the incident in their Annual Confidential Report (ACR)s.[5] Five men who were shot and survived, later became witness for the prosecution case in 2007. These include Muzib-ur-Rehman, Mohamad Usman, Zulfiqar Nasir, and Naeem Arif.[6] 


Gujarat performed much better but Indian Intelligentsia is always criminally bias in concealing misdid (Lapse in Rajdharma) of one particular party while hammering and subjecting citizens with continuous bombardment against vicarious (Not Real or Legal) liability of opponent Party.


Hope I have made my example very clear with the aforesaid citation.


best regards,

-Joshi NM 



On 6 April 2013 17:07, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Naishadh

The problem with data is that it can be interpreted in different ways.


"Modi Govt. never imposed curfew in his rule. Difference is clear like Day-Nite."

This proves that NaMO is either a SOFT leader or that he actively encouraged the massacre of Muslims in 2002.

Why did the Gujarat riots go on for 2+ months ? Even the 1984 Sikh riots were over in under a week. In Delhi it was over in 4 days the moment they imposed curfew (despite not having a PM) and calling in the Army

In the 1983 Nellie (Assam) massacres where you did your comparison, it was over in 6 hours, so what could the Congis have done in a remote district in a State which has always been under the paramilitary forces like Assam Rifles and where the Hindu-Muslim ratio is far different from Gujarat being 50:50 or worse.

The fact of the matter is that Modi may be very good at allowing Gujaratis to make money, but when it comes to INDIA he has no track record of performance (where the only like person he scores over on this account is Raul Vinci who is a big ZERO).

Also, I hope you notice that BJP's vote share in Gujarat has been continually slipping since 2002 and Congress is picking up more and more Muslim votes there.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Maj. Gen. (Retd) Deepak Malhotra has made valuable data available. I thank him for a very useful tabulated data compilation.

Analysis and conclusion is apparent and obvious.

Compilation was focused on the ability of state to prevent riots and perform RAJDHARM. Focus was on ruler not on ruled.

Sarabjit is way off the mark this time in his comments in reply to Dear Maj. Gen. (Retd) Deepak Malhotra.

About Gujarat riots in congress rule, you may have to keep in mind state actors renting-sponsoring random killings on both sides by contract killers. Public in general would be rioting against state-police; reeling under month-long curfews. Abdul Latif-Rasul Party etc. were the examples during Madhavsinh Solanki - Chiman Patel etc. rule.

Modi Govt. never imposed curfew in his rule. Difference is clear like Day-Nite.

Best regards,


On 6 April 2013 14:20, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maj. Gen. (Retd) Deepak Malhotra,

1) Out if the 21 state level incidents you have listed,4 have
taken place in Gujarat. (ie. about 25%)

2) This is surely very high and arouses concern that Gujaratis
are a homicidal race of people and/or easily instigated.

3) Why are there no riots in the neighbouring state of Rajasthan
which equally shares the same borders including with Pakistan?

4) In each and every riot in Gujarat the aggressors were
overwhelmingly the Hindus and the victims the Muslims.

5) So what happened in Gujarat's riots are clear evidence that
Gujaratis in power/politics are damaging to the national fabric.
Mohandas Gandhi being one such and Narendra Modi another.
The entire Partition riots 5 million persons dead or injured was
caused by 1 Gujarati (Gandhi).

6) Can India allow another Gujarati (NaMo) to control India's
destiny ? Your own facts and figures say NO !!.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deepak Malhotra <deepakmalho11@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
 
 Forget Gujarat: Look at the Congress Record
 
Let us set the record straight once and for all. Those Secularists who call Narendra Modi a murderer can judge for themselves from the Table below.
  • Nowhere in the world has one party (Indian National Congress) presided over the murder of so many citizens.
  • No Congress Minister / Politician has ever been booked. Only promoted.
  • Do you want to hand over this Country to them again?  
  • Please think ? 
List of MAJOR Riots / Incidents since 1947
(More than 50 dead)
 
Year
 
State(s)
 
Place
 
Numbers Massacred / Killed
(Approx.)
 
 
Community Affected
 
Assailants
 
Party in Power
 
Prime Minister / Chief Minister
 
1947
Mainly Punjab / Bengal
Various
Min 5,00,000
(worst riots in human history)
Hindus / Muslims / Sikhs
Hindus / Muslims / Sikhs
Congress
Jawaharlal Nehru (PM)
1964
Bihar
Jamshedpur
2000
Hindus /Muslims
Hindus / Muslims
Congress
KB Sahay (CM)
1967
Bihar
Ranchi
177
Muslims
Hindus
Jana Kranti Dal
MP Sinha (CM)
1969
Gujarat
Ahmedabad
2000
Muslims
Hindus
Congress
Hitendra Desai (CM)
1970
Maharashtra
Bhiwandi
164
Muslims
Hindus
Congress
Vasantrao Naik (CM)
1979
Bihar
Jamshedpur
108
Hindus / Muslims
Hindus / Muslims
Janata Party
Karpuri Thakur
1980
UP
Moradabad
200
Muslims
-
Congress
VP Singh (CM)
1983
Assam
Nellie
2200 (official)
5000 (unofficial)
Muslims
Report Classified
Congress
Hiteshwar Saikia (CM)
1984
Delhi / Haryana
Delhi
4000
Sikhs
Congress Party Members
Congress
Rajiv Gandhi (PM)
Bhajan Lal (CM Haryana)
1985
Gujarat
Ahmedabad
275
Muslims
Hindus
Congress
Madhav Sinh Solanki (CM)
1987
UP
Meerut
50
Muslims
PAC
Congress
Vir Bahadur Singh (CM)
1989
Bihar
Bhagalpur
1150
Muslims
Hindus
Congress
Bhagwat Jha Azad
1987 – to date
Jammu & Kashmir
Various
Over 60,000.
4,50,000 displaced (ethnic cleansing)
Hindus / Muslims / Troops
Islamic Terrorists
National Conference / Presidents Rule / PDP / Congress / Presidents Rule / National Conference
Farook Abdullah (CM) / Narasimha Rao (PM) / MM Sayeed / Ghulam Nabi Azad / Man Mohan Singh (PM) / Omar Abdullah (CM)
1990
UP
Aligarh
150
Muslims
Hindus
Janata Dal
Mulayam Singh Yadav (CM)
1990
Andhra Pradesh
Hyderabad
300
Hindus
Muslims
Congress
Chenna Reddy (CM)
1992
Gujarat
Surat
152
Hindus / Muslims
Hindus / Muslims
Congress + Allies
Chimman Bhai Patel (CM)
1992
UP
Kanpur
254
Hindus / Muslims
Hindus / Muslims
Presidents Rule
(Congress)
Narasimha Rao (PM)
 
1992 / 1993
Maharashtra
Mumbai
900
Hindus / Muslims
Hindus / Muslims
Congress
Sudhakarrao Naik (CM)
1993
Maharashtra
Mumbai
250
All Communities
Islamic Terrorists
Congress
Sharad Pawar (CM)
2002
Gujarat
Godhra / Various
1200
Hindus / Muslims
Hindus / Muslims
BJP
Narendra Modi (CM)
2008
Maharashtra
Mumbai
164
All Communities
Islamic Terrorists
Congress
Vilasrao Deshmukh (CM)
2012
Assam
Kokrajhar
77
Muslims (from BD)
Bodos
Congress
Tarun Gogoi (CM)
 





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Re: [IAC#RG] The inside job

Dear Naishadh

While the Battle of Badgam was being fought in J&K on 3 Nov 1947, Sheikh Abdullah and Bakshi Ghoolam Mohd. tried to infiltrate the Brigade Headquarters which was under threat of imminent attack. They were packed off very rudely and they began to make all kinds of trouble for the Indian Army which was just being rushed in by air and by road so that Srinagar could be defended.

They caused so much trouble that Jawarharlal Nehru began directly interfering in the military action, and a large section of officers decided to stage a coup on 14.Nov.1947 (as a birthday gift) and install Sardar Baldev Singh (then Defence Minister and a staunch HRA man) as PM. For whatever reason, the plan was leaked by RSS- perhaps they had a soft corner for Jawaharlal or wanted Sardar Patel as PM instead.

Since operations were on, nothing could be done, and Cariappa thereafter ensured that those officers could not be touched and for which Nehru never trusted him and packed him off to Australia as Ambassador instead.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit,

Greetings.

Your narration of history was captivating, while replying to Mr. Ahmed. In order to assess IAC/HMS, I tried to profile Savarkar into it.

Savarkar met Dr. Kesav Baliram Hedgevar in about March 1925 at Damle ji's residence at Shirgaon. KBH formed RSS on Dusshera, 1925. Savarkar never joined RSS.

My only interest in raising Savarkar issue was two fold:
*Savarkar actively encouraged reconversion of former Hindu adherents to Hinduism. He did so in Andaman prison and also later while out of prison.
*Gandhi Assassination aftermath affected both HMS & RSS with 25000 arrests during Feb 1 to 10. Savarkar was defended in this case by Advocate Bhopatkar of HMS. Approver Digmber Badge stated that on 14-01-1948 'Tatyaa-raav (Savarkar) ordered Apted to Finish off Gandhi, Nehru & Suhravardi. > How come IAC's plan could have been leaked by RSS?

Best regards,
Joshi NM


On 6 April 2013 23:30, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Naishadh

Greetings

Of course you may know better, but its news to me that Savarkar (HMS) was formally in the Sangh or agreed to Sangh in 1925 when he was just out of jail and confined to Ratnagiri and had lost interest in freedom struggle.

Hedgewar was in HMS but Savarkar was not in RSS.  In any case, why drag Savarkar into this discussion / Gandhi_conspiracy all over again when he was acquitted. He was only charged due to the approver Badge.

So RSS is different from Savarkar,and their decision to save Nehru was not constrained by Savarkar's pardon by the duo. There are always traitors (and heroes) in every movement.

Actually Wikipedia has this to say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_India#Activities_during_partition

"Noted Gandhian and recipient of the highest civilian award in India, Bharat Ratna, Dr. Bhagwan Das commended the role of the "high-spirited and self-sacrificing boys" of the RSS in protecting the newly formed Republic of India, from a planned coup to topple the Jawaharlal Nehru Administration in Delhi[36][37]"
  1. ^ Anthony Elenjimittam, Philosophy and action of the R. S. S for the Hind Swaraj, Published by Laxmi Publications, 1951, page 172
  2. ^ Om Prakash Ralhan, Encyclopedia of political parties, Published by Anmol Publications PVT. LTD., 2002 ISBN 81-7488-865-9, page 224
Another thing we must understand was that Savarkar was 40 years behind Bengal when it came to defining Hindutva for violence. Sri Aurobindo (Jugantar) Ghosh's grandfather RajNarayan Bose had already published it in 1870(?).

So the only issue really is, if not BJP or Congress or if not Rahul or NaMo then who ??? :-).

In every "C" grade Hindi movie the hot item scene is always "ladkiyon ki ladaai", so Sonia versus Sushma would bring in the TRPs for Rajat Sharma and keep the allies in their respective formations.  NaMo can stay at "Home" like LKA.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sarabjit,

Good going. Keep it up.

Share more on Dr. Headgevar meeting Savarkar in 1925 to form RSS  and to take head-on Jinna and Muslim league.

Savarkar was also against Gandhi, Nehru, Congress and ML. The duo had declined to sign petition for reprieve to Savarkar. He was accused in Gandhi's assassination which he and Godse denied but Nehru, Morarji were pursuing to prove.

How and why then RSS would save Nehru?
Hindu Mahasabha had at that time good following in Bengal. Savarkar though not in politics due to his undertaking to British Raj was the prime force to challenge Congress.

How Hindu Mahasabha, RSS and IAC converged with common agenda and not being averse to violence yet all got banned while as you alleged Nehru was saved by a leak?

Best Regards.






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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Corruption of Private Builders - Note on Navin Raheja of NAREDCO

dear dr. sharma


please forward me the details about the malpractices of the leading developers in the country .


regards 
Yogesh sood
sr. editor   


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Dr. Sanjay Sharma, QBTPL. <qbtpl1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, 

We have written a note, based on our 8 years of experience in real estate, about how private builders subvert the law to earn obscene profits. Much of the modus operandi was very clearly explained by the Competition Commission of India in their Supplementary Order in the DLF Case. http://cci.gov.in/May2011/OrderOfCommission/192010S.pdf (We were a part of this case and submitted a report on the Apartment Owners Associations behalf http://news.qubrex.com/qubrex-submits-expert-report-to-competition-c )

Now we have written a report about the malpractices of the builders, and rather than leaving it as an abstract exercise have put a face to the builder. The builder we have highlighted is Mr Navin Raheja who is the President of NAREDCO http://naredco.in/  (National Real Estate Development Council Under the Aegis of Ministry of Housing & Urban Poverty Alleviation) and MD of Raheja Developers based out of Delhi.

Would appreciate if the esteemed group can look at our report and suggest as to how to move it forward. If attachment does not go through, it can be accessed at http://www.scribd.com/doc/125978191/Raheja-of-NAREDCO-The-Man-Who-Would-Be-King 

How to get action invoked on all the malpractices that we have documented. Looking for guidance in our small little war on real estate corruption ...

Thanks, and with warm regards, 
Sanjay


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