Re: [IAC#RG] Modi, wake up for heaven sake!!!

But the question is why the majority or rather Indians have become so selfish and corrupt and whether they were so right from the beginning? If not, what made them so? We have to find a way out and I think that will come only through education. We have to change our educational system.

V. S. Sardesai

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On Sun, 15/2/15, apvergheses <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Modi, wake up for heaven sake!!!
To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Cc: "Satya D" <hitaya123@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 15 February, 2015, 8:53 PM

Mr
Satya has brought out several things  with very good
intentions. But is it so simple to deliver in this
complicated world especially India. Majority of people are
with one sided selfish interests. No body is foolish to
allow others to ride. Want a corruption free India when
majority is corrupt. Country can't improve and become
great by leaders unless majority becomes great and elect
great leaders and not sales men. There are no short cut to
success. Incidentally many points of what Satya has written
are to fulfill desires of people like him but it is
important to know that different people have different
interest and clash of interest is difficult to be handled.
Unless we see the recently elected leaders in Delhi and
centre deliver we can't say which has party is better.
Many times those who do better are not appreciated because
majority of people were wanting different things for their
own interests 

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From: Rakesh Manchanda <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com>
Date:15/02/2015 11:29 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Cc: Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Modi, wake up for heaven sake!!!

Thanks Satya J for sharing your eleven points
and five lessons.
Allow me to share my crude thoughts and update as
under...
Alternate Model you
point out in your limited paper work is still not
visible.
Problem is
when promoters like Modi-Arvind keep wearing salesmen shoes
to promote their survival.
However the
Janta behind them need a food for thought.
Egg if
broken from outside is a waste while if broken from inside
gives birth to a new baby.
After Delhi Govt. Oath
taking ceremony what are the `Arrogance Free` Takeaways
lessons of AAP from BJP smashing defeat...ps see and comment
if you like.

For more
details see my recent dig via write up...
http://beyondheadlines.in/2015/02/aap-new-opportunity-lessons-afterkranecrash-bedi-in-delhi/


On Sat, Feb 14, 2015
at 12:03 AM, Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com>
wrote:
As days progress, Modi needs to recognize
that India has no patience for another 5 years waiting for
corrupt Delhi establishment to deliver.  Here are some
thoughts:
1) Come out of the coccoon of Delhi PMO and stop
listening to only yes men of Delhi.   Consider
replacing the officials who are continuing from corrupt
Delhi establishment.  People rejected Congress and we
are continuing the same corrupt establishment.
2) Nationalize all foreign deposited funds and
give amnesty for a period of time.  Stop corrupt
instruments as Participatory notes and other issues. 
Why are so many corrupt cases not being pursued when we were
told that there will not be interference with
judiciary?
3) Make every BJP MP accountable to his
constituency.  What are they doing and have done so
far?  Every day, every minute should be spend in
addressing the concerns of the people.  How are they
implementing BJP promises to people?   How many of them
do even know the constituency issues?  How many times
did they meet their people? BJP has most MPs from UP and
Bihar and if they are put to job, BJP do not need rich
people funds to win elections.
4) Stop the billions of dollars of  Foreign
NGO funding in India, it is having disastrous
consequences.  We control how much is invested in India
in business, but we have hardly any control who are
destroying India from within. Indira Gandhi did it, Putin
did it, even US has so many restrictions, BJP need to seek
input and come up with bold plan.
5) Ban the foreign investment in Indian news
media.  Whose interests will they serve?   How
many times has this media that talked ad nauseum of 300
hundred converts about Ghar Vapasi has addressed the
17% of the Andhra state converted in just 8
years.   Is anyone talking about it?  Why
is BJP afraid of in speaking the truth? 
6) Do not betray your base.   Modi
said during elections, 'Equal rights to all,
appeasements to none'.   UPA Government has
implemented blatantly discriminating laws whether it is
scholarships to poor and others.  Why are these issues
not being fixed?    Why is BJP increasing the
subsidy for beef?   Taking your base for granted is
foolish.  Address the outrageous conversions going
on.  Why are Hindu Temples are under Government
control?
7) Stop paternalistic attitude that we will
implement big schemes and programs and that will percolate
eventually to poor.   India poor is suffering and that
has been the appeal of parties like AAP.   Sitting
pretty with rich men,  making sure to protect the rich
that funded elections so that they can help win future
elections, people had enough of it. Show honesty, show
humility and work with people and people will vote. 
They are hungering for honest leaders to address their day
to day issues.   Daily life is hell to common India,
what has BJP in state and center doing to address
this?  Stop the police harassment, stop the harassment
of state and central government officials.  Think
boldly and change the way India gets the bureaucrats who are
responsible for the people not their political
masters.
8) Is Rajya Sabha a problem?  How come a
corrupt coalition Congress Government could pass so many
laws including Andhra division with carrot and stick
approach and BJP cannot do it.  Use the corruption of
Mulayam, Mayawati, Mamata and Jayalalitha to make them fall
in line.
9) Bring in genuine electoral reforms including
public funding of elections and compulsory voting and paper
trail for EVMs.  This will stop the dependence on rich
and corrupt men.   People will vote if BJP shows they
care.
10) Reach out to those who worked very hard with
sincerity to help you win.  It is not the millions of
the rich but more importantly the toil of so many people
helped you win.  Seek out the most and best of the
nation and put them to work for improving India, not the
same old corrupt cabal.
11) India is known as the spiritual world, the
ancient traditions are looked upon as the only saviour of
humanity in the world.  But that rich tradition is
grossly neglected and the potential for tourism in
developing them and improving economy of millions is very
huge.  Is anyone looking into this?  Rehaul the
archaelogy and tourism departments and release Hindu temples
from Government control.
Many believe, Modi is lost in PMO coccoon of
Delhi cabal and fast losing touch with common man.  The
most important thing to do is re-look the promises made to
people, distance from Delhi cabal, listen to many and work
to address both macro and micro issues of India.  The
issues of common man are as important as big schemes. 
The issue of addressing corruption is as important as
addressing development schemes.
Modi, please wake up for
heaven sake.   Western educated and corrupt
establishment will neither save you or save India. You have
a chance of a lifetime and do NOT blow it.  You did for
Gujarat and you can do for India.  Go back to promises
made to people and start working on it and provide a
progress on PMO site made on each item.
Regards,
Satya

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at
2:26 PM, Narayana Sd <narayanasd123@gmail.com>
wrote:
Even if BJP wins the Delhi there are some
reminders/lessons to Narendra Modi and BJP leaders that they
cannot afford to ignore.   
Lesson 1:  Local
corruption:
While BJP under leadership of Narendra Modi is
addressing macro issues of investments and economy, they
cannot afford to ignore the issues such as the oppressive
and extortionist local corruption that are daily faced by
common man.    In this wonderful article rediff  details
interviews on how petty corruption disappeared overnight
during 49 day AAP rule in New Delhi.   Whether that
would have continued if they ruled further is debatable, but
it struck a chord with the common man.  A similar
sentiment was expressed to me by an
executive working in an MNC in Mumbai who was
strong supporter of Modi saying AAP will be good for the
country because it will force BJP leadership to address
local corruption.    He said such was disdain to
Mumbai police even among middle class, if there is a police
person found dying on the street, they would leave him or
her to die.    Whether getting a licence or ration
card or even a death certification for a dead family member,
Indians are  subject to horrendous extortion and
nothing was done, nay even talked about in BJP
circles.  I remember when Modi won, there was this
euphoria that the days of this extortion and oppressive
local corruption will be gone, but none of that is even
talked about today by BJP.
Lesson 2:  Connecting with common
man
Narendra Bhai can take a leaf from the life of
 Mahatma Gandhi.    If Modi wondered why does
the feverish pitch for him during central elections is
missing today, is it possible he is missing opportunity to
associate with common man.   Gandhi ji hardly spoke,
but he was a powerful figure because he completely
associated with common man, wearing simple loin cloth,
eating most simple food, living humble life. 
Symbols matter and in a country where most people are
poor it is important not to flaunt any
displays.  A poor man may not understand all
the financial strategies but he quickly picks up the visual
vibrations.  True, the tragedy is most of the netas in
India who plundered the nation to the hilt did so by wearing
simple white khadi dress.    Even then, Modi
should pay attention to wearing flaunting dresses.  In
spite of the hard work he is putting day and night, in spite
of impeccable credibility, the common man associates with
visual symbols and they do matter.
Lesson 3:  The black money -
managing expectations
After  big words that they will get the
black money BJP failed miserably in managing the
expectations.   The fact of the matter is in spite of
talking about black money for more than three decades, Ram
Jethmalani,  who was himself  once in power could
do very little to get the money back.   The secret
banks exist for one thing only, protect the secrecy of their
depositors and  they are not going to bend over
backwards to hand over the details to India.   We are
just living in fools paradise that black money will be back
in no time.   But then it begs a question, what is
stopping BJP in declaring the black money national asset and
come up with amnesty scheme to instill confidence in the
common man? In one of the interviews Narendra bhai said
while he would not go after anyone with vengeance he would
not obstruct legal proceedings.   If this is correct,
why is Dr Swamy case against Sonia continues to drawn out?
  Many believe Jaitley is the biggest block.  To
be fair, Narendra Modi is thinking beyond and many of us may
not realize his vision.   If BJP goes after Gandhi
family, with its entrenched 60 year rule and immense
resources, they have potential to do enormous damage and
immense harm to discredit Modi's efforts for improving
country.  Modi may want to first focus on building the
nation instead of getting distracted with those that can
undermine his efforts.  As he said why should India be
satisfied with just 2 trillion why not target 20 trillion.
 This is in tune with how Modi handles things
brilliantly where he does not spend energy fighting enemies,
he simply makes them irrelevant.   The problem is
either Jaitley is being overzealous in protecting black
money holders such as Gandhi family or BJP is doing a very
poor job of managing expectations.

Lesson 4:  The foreign
economists obsession
There seems to be this obsession with
foreign educated economists, some who even went against
India and that is supposed to show that we do not get
carried away with smaller issues and use the best
talent.  But is the best talent only available from
western educated economists only?   How about the
economists from our own country.   Here comes again the
Jaitley view.  While he is considered a brilliant
person, his tendency to rely heavily on the West educated so
called intellectuals shows India needs only western educated
minds to solve it issues.  Jaitley budget is considered
no different that the budget of previous
administration.  There are many sane voices in the
country with very constructive ideas whether it is water
resource management, debt trap, food security etc., But does
Jaitely have patience to get all inputs before finalizing
the budget.
Lesson 5:  The Jaitley
factor
There is no doubt Modi and Jaitley are very
close.  The problem is people voted for Modi but not
for Jaitley.  Talk to many people in RSS, BJP, they
feel that Jaitley has the biggest stamp in administration
and is viewed by many as a western educated intellectual who
have little touch with real life issues of India.  He
grew up with wheeling dealings of corrupt Delhi
establishment and can serve very important role, but is the
importance he is playing in Modi administration in the best
interest of the nation?   Issues like local corruption
is not even on his radar.  
Lastly, the purpose of the article is not to show
support for  AAP to capture power.  They have
potential to play a very pernicious role by playing into
hands of dangerous western NGOs, the CIA, the missionaries
who are hell bent to break the hold of nationalistic
leadership that holds power in India today.    But
they are rabble rousers who can play an important role in a
democracy and they are serving a call for course correction
in BJP.     It is a
gentle reminder of India's great democracy, 'BJP,
thy need to introspect'.
Regards,
Satya










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