Monday, October 19, 2015

RE: [IAC#RG] Unform Civil Code

18/10/15
The concept of public welfare and its relationship with governance under a totalitarian regime and/ or a religiously fanatical regime and a democratic regime has to be clearly understood. Today all the three types are ostensibly working  in the name of and for the public wefare of the masses.
As a totalitarian regime we tend to think of communism as practiced by Russia and other countries with similar practices. Unfortunately here the power gets concentrated in a group of leaders and to maintain their grip on power undermine the interest and welfare of the masses.
Under Fanatical regime we can think of any of the Middle Eastern regime,wealthy  but working for their welfare of their own tribes or religious adeherents  and against followers of other religions.
As a democracy you can think of U.S and Europe. But they have also accepted the public welfare as essential part of governance.
India is basket case- all three rolled into one- democratic as a constitution, totalitarian in its governance and religiously fanatical-caste ridden at the base level.
Tendency to raise a finger at U.S. as a devil for all the ills that are of own making , is not going to help in solving them
whether it is the uniform civil code or forked tongue of RSS. But it makes me wonder where was RSS in 1955 when Nehru passed Hindu Code bill in post haste ? RSS was on the backfoot ,on the verge of being banned in the aftermath of the Assasination of Mahtama Gandhi. Nehru always maintained that he can manage the Hindus but not the Muslims after his experience with Jinnah and the threat of civil war before indepence.
Vidyut has a point when she says that many laws seemed to have been passed affecting personal rights without much discussion.
Regds
JKGaur


Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:19:58 +0530
From: r.dua1234@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Unform Civil Code

Just a thought after going thru the mails.
The concept of 'public welfare' has to be kept at minimum as we have seen any totalitarian concept, be it communism or fanaticism leads to No Good.
Let everyone EARN their laurels.

Ofcourse where Law is concerned our honourable members will know best.
Regards.

On 16 Oct 2015 00:35, "Reformist Navin" <navinpandya1954@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Friends,

Namaste.

For real & stronger Democracy, need to replace soon bogus Representation of People Act with new perfect law to ensure good governance & public welfare.

Regards,

Navin

Quality of Democracy, Freedom, Laws & Governance depends on the quality of Electoral Laws, Parliament & State Assemblies. Good Governance is a Human Right.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ravi,

We already have a uniform (secular) civil code for those who want it.
Actually it has always been the Hindus who opposed the secular Civil
Code (which long precedes the Hindu Code of 1955).

1) Hindu Marriage Act 1955 <==> Special Marriages Act (1872/ 1954)
2) Hindu Succession Act 1956 <==> Indian Succession Act 1925
3) Hindu Guardianship Act1956  <==> Guardians and Wards Act 1890

For eg., the Hindu Marriage Act 1955 is almost a xerox copy of the old
(pre-1954) Special Marriages Act.

It is clear from this simple analysis that the self styled 'thekedars'
of Hinduism who are HQed in Nagpur continue to speak in the forked
tongues of their reptilian American pay-masters and now intend to
impose their retrograde US drafted communal UCC on the secular
citizens of India, probably via the Supreme Court (which is now packed
with their camp followers) predetermined PIL route.

Sarbajit

On 10/13/15, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... I need to conclude by asking: why is
> it that we still do not have a
> uniform civil code through out the nation, including J&K? Religion, being a
> personal choice,
> shouldn't it be left purely in the personal domain?
>
> ravi
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>

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