Re: [IAC#RG] lessons to BJP and Modi from Delhi elections

Hi,

Please find my comments for the your statement belows:-

Dear Hemant

1. Don't be under the illusion that India is a functioning democracy.
It is not !!!

Then what are we living then? in illusion? what people have done before me? Shall we continue living like this only because this is illusion and people earlier has failed to address that?

2. I also told you that RTI is a very weak tool, and to be careful of
those who encourage you to use it.

Sadly people I have meet try to desist me for the same, when I try for something, we have this tool weak, that thing not done then what to do? sit and enjoy because earlier people are loving to keyboard and not working on it? Is there any efforts for atleast getting RTI stronger?

3, The system was always corrupt, the problem now is that the system
is BROKEN and cannot deliver to the expectations of the MASSES.

Who is responsible for this situation? I tell you... you are the people with keyboards to pinpoint some national govt. work which are just came to the power, but none has guts to enact on the information. You will sip tea in your bed and reading the online webpage to comment and say that "system is broken". What answer you have to give to your future generations? "the system is broken" "let the system and politico fuck you as we were having only hosh we wrote on a email list ... we never got off our seats ..  and see now it cannot deliver on your expectation.

4. The replacement system will be a Western model where everything is
priced and you have "safety nets with gaping holes" to catch those who
fly off or cannot keep up. Initially money will be cheap, credit will
be liberal and then the vice will squeeze you.

Exactly!! Act now !! before these people sell you air to breath... fight !! dont let your future generations face such issues... If you dont fight your generations will suffer.

5. You say you want to "fight". I say if you had a fully loaded AK-47
today what would you do with it.?

Fight wisely... with that gun/instrument .. I will use it unlike you people typing on keybroads.. atleast it would be worthy for dying for a cause, it would be better then scratching ass/head/mouth saying "System is corrupt"?

6. I have never advocated pacifism for the sake of pacifism. Quite the
opposite actually

Mr. Roy, it is not evident from this mail thread!!

Hemant, you really don't understand the vision of this group, nor do
you need to right now. Just be careful and be well prepared. Read
Sun-Tzu first then read Chanakya then read Sun-Tzu again. And if you
really want to sizzle read Machiavelli after that.

I have read both art of war and chanakya niti, both agreed that "it is will of people of nation" who defines nation and society. The conditions they have mentioned for tackling problem is differently mentioned. But both state that some force is required for change. but people are waiting for the force to happen forgeting that they are the FORCE.

Sarbajit

Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar

To acquire knowledge, one must study;

but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.
- Marilyn vos Savant

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Hemant

1. Don't be under the illusion that India is a functioning democracy.
It is not !!!
2. I also told you that RTI is a very weak tool, and to be careful of
those who encourage you to use it.
3, The system was always corrupt, the problem now is that the system
is BROKEN and cannot deliver to the expectations of the MASSES.
4. The replacement system will be a Western model where everything is
priced and you have "safety nets with gaping holes" to catch those who
fly off or cannot keep up. Initially money will be cheap, credit will
be liberal and then the vice will squeeze you.
5. You say you want to "fight". I say if you had a fully loaded AK-47
today what would you do with it.?
6. I have never advocated pacifism for the sake of pacifism. Quite the
opposite actually

Hemant, you really don't understand the vision of this group, nor do
you need to right now. Just be careful and be well prepared. Read
Sun-Tzu first then read Chanakya then read Sun-Tzu again. And if you
really want to sizzle read Machiavelli after that.

Sarbajit

On 2/6/15, Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Josh without Hosh is barbaric foolishness.
> Hosh without Josh is useless lethargy.
>
> This ninja word in this context was first used by yourself... about a year
> ago.
>
> I have a major question over here, people on this list maybe excluding a
> few, except cribbing and finding facts what have done? Emailing in comfort
> of their retired houses/homes... I seriously think that the condition of
> current india is because earlier generation 1950-1970, never fought this
> system which was corrupt. Even today for guiding youth like me, people
> speak of pacification rather than motivation for me further.
>
> Question of sanity comes only when group has strategy, strategy comes when
> you have vision.. the current vision of this group is just type... do not
> work for it... which is utterly shameful. I am hardly 28 years old but have
> utilized the knowledge present on this group for filing around 25 RTIs (one
> of the least) and shaming the directors or head honchos of public
> departments including tamil nadu police...  Fight these guys .. if you
> cannot fight shame them.. Shaming damages their morale for atleast 0.5% of
> their corrupt ego.
>
> What I said is for people who understand that barking people seldom
> bites... I want all people to bite those who are attaching our country
> internally or externally, but then we bark when we need assistance or
> guidance or help in effective biting those responsible personnel.
>
> This group has taught me many things so I will not say any further but I
> will like this group to be effective atleast 0.00001 % on corrupt
> governance. Atleast I will tell my grand children that I made a difference
> of 0.00001% in their nation.
>
> Apology for any harsh words!!
>
> Regards,
>
> *Hemant Kshirsagar*
> *To acquire knowledge, one must study;*
>
> *but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.- Marilyn vos Savant*

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