Re: [rti4empowerment] Request for advice

Dear all

  1)  I have been pursuing since 2008 while even in uniform to get info on two things ( which in my opinion are the root causes of many evils in the armed forces, ordinarily not known to the outsiders)"

    a) Regimental Fund which as per the definition is neither Public nor private but somewhere in between..its income and expenditures..neither audited by Local audit authorities nor under oversite committe but supposedly get audited by private chartered accountants at the beck and call of the so called custodians of this private fund..Income is totally tax exempted in the name of welfare of troops..

    Income side :-

    --- a meagre .oo5 % of the basic salary of each individual in uniform eg appx Rs 30 per     person per     month for appx 13.6 lacs armed forces personnel ( for leave period this is exempted).

    ---- Profits from URCs (Unit Run Canteens) selling CSD as well as non-CSD goods being run in the     built in defence accommodations , reappropriated or otherwise.

    ------ Rebates or contract money from all commercial activities including running of schools ,     colleges, restaurants, Malls, Super markets, clubs, guest houses, banquet halls, grocery stores as     well as Golf  Clubs,  Banks & ATMs.

    -----  Profits from Farm Lands , Orchards etc etc.

    Expenditure side:--

    ---As on date it is the military authority which is to decide Licence Fee or Rent for those defence accommodations which are supposedly held in excess to the requirement by the holding military Units..The local military auth convenes a board of officers and decide the Licence Fee..Surely true to the spirit they keep the rent or the Licence Fee as low as Rs 5 per square meters in the prime locations of the cosmopolitan cities like Delhi, Kolkata , Mumbai etc etc.

    ---This rent at the rate of meagre Rs 5 per square meters as Licence Fees are collected from the private contractors / dealers to whom Military Authority has handed over the accommodations to run their commercial ventutres where net profits goes in Crores.

    ---Besides the Licence Fee the contractors are required to pay for electricity and water charges at the subsidised rates. And on top of it a contractual amount in the form of REBATE is also paid for use of the def Accn for commercial activities . But this rebate money which is at least ten times the licence fee per commercial ventures is deposited with the privately and abused regimental funds for which there is no audit by the govt of India authority..Bizarre isn'r it?

    ---Now this provately held regimental money by crores are put to gross mis-use as there is no chacks & balances.

It is evident that all those URCs ( selling CSD goods appx 4000 of them, selling non-CSD goods appx 15000 ) are occupying a whole lot of govt accommodations built for very important purposes..As on date there is no authorisation for building any def accommodation for any commercial ventures.

 

As it is more the merrier local commanders at the ground Zero are seen working overtime to get startegic defence accommodations vacated to accommodate many more private contractors to run their commercial activities paying peanuts as rent to the govt of India inside the defence installations.

 

This brings to my second query : -

2)  Exact amount defence accommodation across the country is being enagaged for commercial activities keeping rent or licence fee as low as Rs 5 per sq metre and what is the net revenue from those commercial ventures as rent and expenditure by the govt on their maintenance? What is the amount of rebate officially recd by the military auth which is being deposited to the so called privately run regimenatl funds?

 

My query Secunderabad as well as Delhi Cantt specific to the military auth ( RAO, AAO, Garrison Engineers, Station HQ as well as Controller of Defence acct Sec-bad as well as Delhi) has remain unanswered in some pretext or other. My second appeal to hon-ble ML Sharma , IC/CIC has been deflected with the zeal of an ex-police officer..with very unsound explations.

But I shall not stop till death..I am sure those who have been frustrated, being frustrated and definitely frustrated are also not going to leave such serious business with a couple of corrupt to the core IAS /IPS ex -officials acting against the will of India..we will try to de-bureaucratise the CIC/SICs first and foremost.

 

    

 

 

 

 

From: Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com>
To: "rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com" <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Request for advice

While your perceiverence and vehemence are appreciated your experiences really exposes the futility of the RTI05 in serving the purpose of getting information for the masses! With such resistence at every stage whoever pursued getting information, either for their personal use or for the common cause most of them have lost the race midway as in many cases, particularly sensitive issues,  as the common people get frustrated and exhausted in chassing it to a satisfactory end, leave alone being targeted! Many a time it affects the pursuer of information demanding his time and money interfeing with the very livelyhood! Your looking for someone to sincerely follow such cases at 'reasonable costs' speaks volumes on obstacles on the way  of information seeker/s

I know I have limitation to respond to your request in a feasile way  but I found this as an opportunity to express my view, having experienced more or less the same way while chasing information under RTI! Next alternative may be an act demanding RIGHT TO SMASH (RTS) or  RIGHT TO THRASH  (RTT)the officer who denies information to seeker!

It is not in any way my intenstion to discourage you but to impress  that my experience in seeking information in several cases for knowing and also in helping to remove common man's ignorance  puts me in the same shoe as that of yours

From: M K Singhal <mk.singhal@yahoo.co.in>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Request for advice

Request for advice for further action to be taken for getting info under RTIA05:

I had been requesting PIO, Noida Authority for a copy of the statement of accounts prepared, clearance certificates issued and reallotment letters issued in respect of some  cabins allotted to IT/ITES units such as DelSoft, LK Software, Ukiah Software and BirlaSoft, on rental basis in STPI, Sector 29, Noida for the past about four years. These cabins were vacated by the said units on 19.10.2001, 30.11.2001, 26.12.2003 and 31.05.2007 respectively. When the said info was not received on one pretext or the other, I filed another RTI application dated 22.06.2012 in the matter. When no info was received, I filed First Appeal which was heard by FAA on 20.11.12.  FAA ordered vide his nos 1944 dated 21.11.12 that the required info be supplied to me within 15 days. PIO then supplied only part info vide his letter no 2568 dated 03.12.2012 and informed that the balance info pertained to their accounts section and would be supplied by them, PIO requested  the Accounts Section to supply the balance info pertaining to them vide his letter no 1604 dated 20.07.2012.  This remaining info is still not received by me. When no further info was thus received by me, I filed another appeal dated 10.12.2012 to FAA, but no action was taken by FAA/his office on it yet. I also reminded FAA for action on it thereafter. When no reply was received by me from FAA, I filed Second Appeal to SIC, Lucknow on 24.02.2013. SIC has neither acknowledged receipt of my appeal nor fixed any date of hearing or passed any orders thereon.

I need advice on the following points from RTI knowledgeable experts:

Q1       What further action can be got taken from FAA's level if his orders are not complied with by PIO or other concerned officials. Why does he not take action on such defaults reported to him by letter or even by further First Appeals bringing out the default in the matter.

Q2       It has been my experience that SIC Lucknow neither acknowledges the Second Appeals preferred to him nor sends copy of orders passed by him on Second Appeals preferred to him. No action is taken in SIC office even on RTI applications requesting for copies of his orders on earlier appeals. How can this problem be tackled by persons like us living so far away from SIC office at Lucknow.

Q3       Can somebody suggest Names and contact info about some persons in Lko who can follow such cases at reasonable costs.

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