Re: [HumJanenge] Pratibha Patil to return 155 artifacts to Rashtrapati Bhavan by 15 June 2013, reveals RTI reply

she has taken the artifacts for keeping permanently. if no list of items given now then she might return 155 item in number may be toys purchased from weekly market. no body will know after one year what item she took home. god bless her.    --- On Tue, 18/9/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Pratibha Patil to return 155 artifacts to Rashtrapati Bhavan by 15 June 2013, reveals RTI reply To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, 18 September, 2012, 12:03 AM The author is Vinita Deshmukh Her email ID is mentioned at the foot of the article "vinitapune@gmail.com" I think she is no longer on this list due to ideological differences. On 9/17/12, kiran shaheen <kiranshaheen@gmail.com> wrote: > Great. is initiative ki tarif ke liye mere paas shabd nahi hain. > If I wish to write on this, I would like to talk to you. Please share your > contact number. if u do not wantto share it publicly then send iot me at > kiranshaheen@gmail.com > Solidarity, > Kiran > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > >> Pratibha Patil to return 155 artifacts to Rashtrapati Bhavan by 15 June >> 2013, reveals RTI reply >> >>    - >>       - irst to comment >>    - + >> COMMENT<http://www.moneylife.in/article/pratibha-patil-to-return-155-artifacts-to-rashtrapati-bhavan-by-15-june-2013-reveals-rti-reply/28508.html#postcomment> >> >> VINITA DESHMUKH <http://www.moneylife.in/author/vinita-deshmukh.html> | >> 17/09/2012 >> 07:36 AM | >> <http://www.moneylife.in/article/pratibha-patil-to-return-155-artifacts-to-rashtrapati-bhavan-by-15-june-2013-reveals-rti-reply/28508.html#> >> *To a RTI query by this writer asking about the list of gift items loaned >> specifically to Pratibha Patil along with the evaluated price of each >> item, Rashtrapati Bhavan says information not necessary as it is a >> 'temporary' arrangement* >> >> The Rashtrapati Bhavan has officially admitted through a RTI (Right to >> Information) reply to this writer that "An MoU was signed on 15th June >> 2012 >> between Rashtrapati Bhavan and the Vidya Bharti Shaikshnik Mandal, >> Amravati, for display of 155 artifacts/mementos on a purely temporary >> basis, which in any case, cease to be operative with effect from 15th >> June >> 2013 and all the artifacts presently on loan shall be returned to the >> Rashtrapati Bhavan Museum thereafter" but refuses to divulge detailed >> information on the list of artifacts transferred to Ms Patil's museum. >> >> The Central Public Information Officer (CPIO) of the President's >> Secretariat takes this 'temporary' arrangement as an excuse to not >> provide the list of artifacts given to Ms Patil to display it in her >> museum >> in her hometown, Amravati, along with their individual costs and >> countries >> that they were gifted from. >> >> The RTI application filed by me on 3 August 2012, specifically asked the >> PIO of the President's Secretariat, "List of gift items loaned >> specifically >> to Ms Pratibha Patil along with the evaluated price of each item; from >> which country did each gift item come from; what was the purpose of her >> visit when she received each of the gift item." The reply is "do not >> arise >> in view of the answer at (3) above" (which is she would be returning >> artifacts by 15 June 2013 as the agreement would cease by then. >> >> The RTI reply interestingly suggests that it was President Abdul Kalam >> who >> started the trend of moving out gifts received in the capacity of being >> President of India. The CPIO Saurabh Vjay states in his reply dated 6 >> September 2012, "No such requests have been made by any former President >> of >> India. It is, however, stated that in the past, 36 artifacts were handed >> over during the Presidency of Dr APJ Abdul Kalam for being displayed in >> the >> Brahmos Centre, New Delhi." This reply came to the writer's query under >> RTI >> seeking "copies of official requests made by Presidents of India for >> loaning of gifts from 1990 onwards. Provide copies of all such >> correspondence within the President of India office as well as between >> President of India office and the relevant district/city authority where >> the President of India may have resided or the place where she/he wants >> to >> display the loanedgift items, form 1990 onwards." >> >> The RTI reply also states that "no such rules and regulations are >> available for loaning ofgift items received by the President of India. >> This >> was in reply to my query, "Copies of Rules/GRs/amendments/correspondence >> for rules and amended rules regarding gift articles and souvenirs which >> are >> received by Presidents of India from other countries and within the >> country; Copy of rules and regulations for 'loaning' official gifts >> received by President of India to presidents on their retirement or >> loaned to any other organisation." >> >> To the query, "How many gift items in total does the 'Tosha Khana' of the >> President's office have at the moment and what is the total amount in >> value?" CPIO Saurabh Vijay states in his reply that "as per our records >> there are about 2,500 gifts in 'Tosha Khana' of the President's >> Secretariat >> and as regards the value of these items, no such records are available in >> the Art section."  This is indeed shocking for, as per the ministry of >> home >> affairs, any contribution in the form of gifts received by President of >> India or other dignitaries must be valued within 30 days of receipt of >> gift. >> >> It may be recalled that a museum is being specially set up in Pratibha >> Patil's hometown by the family trust, Vidya Bharti Shaikshnik Mandal, run >> by her politician-son Rajendra Shekhawat. >> >> The writer is filing a first appeal to the President's Secretariat since >> the information received is inadequate. >> >> Read the previous article here: *Pratibha Patil's Museum: Gifts received >> by VVIPs from foreign countries can be purchased by them but can they be >> loaned?<http://www.moneylife.in/article/pratibha-patils-museum-gifts-received-by-vvips-from-foreign-countries-can-be-purchased-by-them-but-can-they-be-loaned/27641.html> >> * >> >> *(Vinita Deshmukh is the consulting editor of Moneylife, an RTI activist >> and convener of the Pune Metro Jagruti Abhiyaan. She is the recipient of >> prestigious awards like the Statesman Award for Rural Reporting which she >> won twice in 1998 and 2005 and the Chameli Devi Jain award for >> outstanding >> media person for her investigation series on Dow Chemicals. She >> co-authored >> the book "To The Last Bullet - The Inspiring Story of A Braveheart - >> Ashok >> Kamte" with Vinita Kamte. She can be reached atvinitapune@gmail.com.)* >> > > > > -- > Kiran Shaheen > > > *I carry a torch in one hand > And a bucket of water in the other: > With these things I am going to set fire to Heaven > And put out the flames of Hell > So that voyagers to God can rip the veils > And see the real goal....... > Rabia (Rabi'a Al-'Adawiyya)* >