[IAC#RG] Fwd: Corruption / Incompetence of your GNCTD Secretaries

Dear Shri Roy,

My water connection number is K NO 9947041000.

Kindly see the forwarded e-mail sent to Dir. (Rev) and the CM Delhi on May 23, 2016 with a copy of our letter dtd April 16, 2016 informing about reverse reading of our Automatic water meter (No. 15633234) installed by SPML Infra Ltd. on August 3, 2014 with initial reading 04 During some of the days in April 2016, its reading had been as follows –

 

April  9, 2016  99827.7   April 10, 2016  99827.5  April 11, 2016  99827.3

April 12, 2016 99827.1   April 13, 2016  99827.0  April 14, 2016  99826.8

April 15, 2016 99826.6   April 16, 2016  99826.4  May 16,, 2016  99821.2

  
Now, after repeated requests it has been corrected.

Besides, we had neither received Water Bill nor any communication in this regard for the last many months, Details of our earlier Water Bills are as follows - 

Period                                 Bill Amount   Date of Payment

08.06.2011 to 5.03.2012         Rs. 311          10.05.2012

05.03.2012 to 23.07.2012      Rs. 842          26.10.2012

23.07.2012 to 12.11.2012      Rs. 426          23.02.2013

12.11.2012 to 01.03.2013      Rs. 342         19.04.2013

01.03.2013 to 07.05.2013      Rs. 227         25.07.2013

07.05.2013 to 21.09.2013      Rs. 813         06.12.2013

21.09.2013 to 21.03.2014      Rs. 397         07.04.2014

21.03.2014 to 31.05.2014      Rs. 246         20.06.2014

31.05.2014 to 01.08.2014      Rs. 477         25.08.2014

02.08.2014 to 01.12.2014      Rs. 837         29.12.2014

Further, there was a duplication of the period from 03 Aug 2014 to  28 Feb 2015 in the above mentioned unpaid concerned Bil dated 12 Sept 2015. It includes the already paid charges on 29.12.2014.for the period from 02.08.2014 to 01.12.2014, Further, the amount of Rs 4791 shown for the period from 03 Aug 2014 to  06 Sept 2015 is enormous as compared to the charges of Rs 4918 for the period from 08.06.2011 to  01.12.2014; and the late payment should not be charged unless the Bill is delivered. 

 

Now, we request you to kindly highlight the ill-functioning of Delhi Jal Board so that the common man should get the Water Meter reading proper, and the Bills accordingly.  Water Bills without proper reading should be based on the average of the earlier consumption

With regards,
]

S K Agarwal
266 Aravali Apartments,

Alaknanda, Kalkaji

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

DELHI DIALOGUE COMMISSION     (www.delhidialoguecommission.in)

an initiative of  "India Against Corruption"

To:

Shri Arvind Kejriwal,
Chief Minister of NCT Delhi

BY EMAIL

Dear Chief Minister,

I am enclosing the latest realtime 10 um pollution data reports from DPCC's monitoring station at R.K.Puram between 20:30hrs and 01:00 hrs for 27.Aug.2016 and 28.Aug.2016, personally downloaded by me from DPCC'd website dpccairdata.com

As a person trained in engineering, you will surely be able to detect the abnormal spike in pollution to 273 versus standard of 100 between this time.

As a person trained in engineering, you will surely also know the reason for this spike being caused.

Because this massive pollution is directly caused by the rampant corruption of Transport Dept/GNCTD  alongwith the corruption/incompetence of your Environment Dept, I hope that youi will listen to the voice of the citizens of Delhi (conveyed by IAC's Delhi Dialogue) and charge-sheet / dismiss / suspend your Commissioner (Transport), your Secretary (Environment) and the Secretary/DPCC.

PS: I mention in passing that the voters/citizens of Delhi are getting increasingly upset by the overall incompetence of the elected GNCTD in solving the problems we convey to your office. If your AAP's governance merely consists of marking our complaints downwards till they are end up in waste bins, we voters can also repay your MLA's and councillors in the same coin.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy

National Convenor
for Delhi Dialogue Commission

(an initiative of "India Against Corruption")

B-59 Defence Colony,
New Delhi 110024

M: +91-8010205897

NB: This communication is sent to the Aam Aadmi Party Govt. of Delhi ('Aap ki Sarkar') in terms of the India Against Corruption decision dated 29.Aug.2011 which can be accessed here

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Re: [IAC#RG] Very Urgent Public Grievance for IITJEE (Mains) 2017 changes

Respected Sir,
Thankyou for detail response,from all of us here.
Agree with need to deliberate on this imp issue.
Regards to all.

On 2 Sep 2016 09:30, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dua ji

I fully agree that we should not let mediocrity become the norm.

Let me clarify why IAC is opposed to this utterly corrupt decision by MHRD to set 75% results in Class 12 for entrance into NITs. (NB: We are not disputing the same criteria for IIT admissions)

1) Successive Central Governments have deliberately failed to Legislate a law (Engineers Act) to regulate the profession of engineering in the same way that Lawyers, doctors, architects, Chartered Accountants are.

2) If Engineers are regulated, then the entire rackets of sub-standard constructions especially in public sector works will be stopped and the huge black money generated in construction / infrastructure sector will be accountable.

3) The AICTE is one of the most corrupt bodies in India and is squarely responsible (along with the Supreme Court of India by its contradictory judgments) for the.mess in Indian engineering education.

4) Till now the practice was that the IITJEE(Mains) score is used a) for screening candidates to sit for IITJE(Advanced) used for IIT admissions where 80% percentile in board is needed, b) a 60% weightage for IITJEE(Mains) score and a 40% weightage for Class 12 percentile.

5) Typically even students with JEE(Mains) score combinations like 300 with 50% in Class 12, or 250:60% or 200:70%, 175:80%, 150:90%, 130:98% could get admission into an NIT in core engg. branches under the previous system.

6) We must remember that the IITJE(Mains) tests the ABILITY of students to OBJECTIVELY apply knowledge of multiple chapters of their Class 12 syallabus to solve unexpected / novel numerical problems, whereas the Class 12 test the KNOWLEDGE of students to SUBJECTIVELY answer predictable questions limited to single chapters.

Therefore there is only a medium to moderate correlation between IITJEE(Mains) score and Class 12 marks since these are completely different exams testing different things.

7) This situation is being exploited by the IIT Coaching class mafias like Allen, Resonance, FIITJEE, Bansals etc. mainly centered in Kota who "arrange" that their students are simultaneously admitted as dummy students into dubious CBSE recognised schools which they never actually attend. Kota coaching classes are also responsible for paper leakage, high tech cheating and tampering with submitted papers. So completely undesirable students are regularly getting into IITs through the backdoor and then are dropping out.

8) As I also assist Navodya Schools in Delhi in RTI, which were having a chronic problem with their Maths teachers (misusing RTI because they were unwilling to work after also doing private coaching outside) and even the prestigious Navodaya students were failing, I had developed a CBSE maths program compartment crash learning package which has 100% pass results in teaching the entire Class 12 maths syllabus sufficiently in 1 month to pass the exam. So every year in the month of June after CBSE results are declared I am approached by desperate parents whose children have done cleared various entrance exams but who failed in Class 12 CBSE maths.  For eg. this year I had students from as far afield as Vishakapatnam ( 8% in CBSE Maths after being destroyed by Sri Chaitanya), and Gorakhpur (11% in CBSE Maths destroyed by FIITJEE) etc. All have passed the compartment in first shot and are now doing Engg or other professional courses like 5 year Law etc.

9) The decision of 8.April.2016 to "raise" the NIT criteria also to 75% is a completely corrupt one taken by Ms. Smriti Zubin Irani and done so as to ensure that all the now affected students of FIITJEE, Aakash, Allens, Resonance etc below 75% will have no option but to go to dubious and very expensive engg. Universities (recognised u/s 2f of UGC Act and so mostly out of AICTE scope)  which are all benamidaars of politicians to park their black money.

10 So please join us in supporting our principled (and very well researched) stand  to oppose the new 75% criteria imposed for NIT admissions, since the unglamorous NITs are the only option for reasonably good students who wish to stay out of clutches of the IIT coaching mafias and the bakwaas private engg. colleges.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:25 PM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Sarabjit ji,
Thankyou for sharing your personal experience.Nothing anyone says can contest that.
Sir, my main contention is that let not mediocrity become a norm.

As you rightly say, we hve ppl at top helm of Delhi city who are IIT alumnus and conducting themselves in such deplete manner.Sometimes this makes one wonder if we are going forwards or backwards.

And this also summsup the situation in Academics.
With your good knowledge plz ensure that Merit Wins.

Not a impossible situation, am sure.Infact a south indian gentleman, an erstwhile Cabinet Secretary has given a report on HRD reforms some time back.
Am not knowledgeable enough to know if same pertains to the subject.

Apologies for being a idealist.
With Regards.

On 1 Sep 2016 10:51, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear respected Dua ji

The situation is not as simple as that, if only it were so. Some random thoughts

There is a hugely profitable IIT-JEE coaching mafia which operates in select cities where poor/middle-class families turn to in desperation because schools are so bad.

This is coupled with mushrooming of sub-standard private engineering colleges (masquerading as State Universities and thus out of AICTE ambit) churning out worthless engineers who are unable to get into "good" institutes. Most of these institutes are benaamis of netas.

Then you have SC/ST/OBC reservations which take away 50% seats

The mark distribution for CBSE exams is badly skewed because of rampant coaching classes and is far from normal (ie. not at all bell shaped) distribution.

The IIT-JEE (Mains) exam itself is badly flawed, and does not put forward the right candidates for IIT. BTW, I am not saying this, the IIT Directors are saying it. The IIT (Advanced) is still a respectable enough exam.

The Class 12 exam marks have low correlation to IIT JEE engg. entrance exam marks. The skill sets being tested are quite different.

Incidentally, although I myself qualified for IIT (through JEE) and got Mechanical Engg. in IIT-Delhi, I instead opted to join BITS Pilani (as a Maharastra HSC Board ranker) for it. Later in 1986 when I joined IIT-Delhi for M.Tech in Mech Engg, I found the faculty and academics there so pathetic that I un-enrolled myself after 10 days.

That my choice was correct, can be summed up by looking at Arvind Kejriwal, who I am very sure does not remember ABC of what he learned of Mechanical at IIT despite his getting a First Div in it, and who was found to be completely incompetent to be an engineer by Tatas when he joined them.

.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 9:10 AM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Respectfully Disagree with the plea in this post.
May bring to kind notice of all concerned that 75 percent is minimum to qualify for application into any decent institute these days.With all the gadgets available these days and today's gen this is the minimum % we expect frm the entry level students to any recognized Institute.
We don't want JNU type money eating joints where so called students loiter around for yrs.
Infact agree with last para of the above plea that 75percent minimum shd be set for all entry level.
Regards to all.

On 1 Sep 2016 02:46, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

From:
INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan

B-59 Defence Colony, New Delhi 110024

Tel : +91-8010205897

To:

1) Shri. Prakash Javadekar
Hon'ble Minister of HRD

2) Shri. R. Subrahmanyam
Additional Secretary (TE)

BY EMAIL

Respected Sirs,

I regret to inform you that many student members of India Against Corruption, jan andolan, ("IAC") are greatly concerned and aggrieved by the rather strange decision dt. 8.April.2016 of the Dept. Of Higher Education,  communicated by Shri. R. Subrahmanyam Additional Secretary (TE), in File no. F-19-5/2014/TS 1 to set a base eligibility criteria of 75% aggregate in "best of 5" Class XII subjects even for admission into the National Institute of Technologies (NITs).

As we are also the replying stakeholders to the Dept's public notice of Nov. 2015 on this issue, we wish to strongly protest / object that at no stage in the consultation process was it communicated to us, or recommended or even suggested by the IIT Council / the Committee of so-called Eminent persons that a minimum of 75% marks in aggregate in Class 12 is proposed to be imposed for admission into the NITs.

Notably, the present eligibility for the NITs is only for minimum 50% aggregate in class 12, so this sudden and unexplained 50% base hike in eligibility criteria is very disquieting to us.

We are therefore seriously concerned that perhaps this new eligibility criteria for the NITs has inadvertently crept into the letter dt. 08.April.2016.  To ascertain this we had applied in RTI for some specific information concerning this, but the file is somehow not accessible to the dealing CPIO to provide us the details.

Because this issue affects the lives of lacs of students, and every day is precious to their preparations, IAC urges you to kindly URGENTLY and PERSONALLY re-examine this matter so that the average / poorer students who do not have the benefit of coaching even for Board exams can get a fair crack at the NITs through the IIT-JEE (Mains) as they do presently.

Needless to say that IAC fully supports imposing highest standards in India's education, and we say this same requirement for at least 75% in  class 12 criteria should also be equally applied, say, for admission into the National Law Colleges or to sit for the CLAT or for anyone to become the Chief Justice of India or even to practice as an advocate.

sincerely

Er. Sarbajit Roy

National Convenor,

India Against Corruption, jan andolan

B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

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Re: [IAC#RG] Very Urgent Public Grievance for IITJEE (Mains) 2017 changes

Dear Dua ji

I fully agree that we should not let mediocrity become the norm.

Let me clarify why IAC is opposed to this utterly corrupt decision by MHRD to set 75% results in Class 12 for entrance into NITs. (NB: We are not disputing the same criteria for IIT admissions)

1) Successive Central Governments have deliberately failed to Legislate a law (Engineers Act) to regulate the profession of engineering in the same way that Lawyers, doctors, architects, Chartered Accountants are.

2) If Engineers are regulated, then the entire rackets of sub-standard constructions especially in public sector works will be stopped and the huge black money generated in construction / infrastructure sector will be accountable.

3) The AICTE is one of the most corrupt bodies in India and is squarely responsible (along with the Supreme Court of India by its contradictory judgments) for the.mess in Indian engineering education.

4) Till now the practice was that the IITJEE(Mains) score is used a) for screening candidates to sit for IITJE(Advanced) used for IIT admissions where 80% percentile in board is needed, b) a 60% weightage for IITJEE(Mains) score and a 40% weightage for Class 12 percentile.

5) Typically even students with JEE(Mains) score combinations like 300 with 50% in Class 12, or 250:60% or 200:70%, 175:80%, 150:90%, 130:98% could get admission into an NIT in core engg. branches under the previous system.

6) We must remember that the IITJE(Mains) tests the ABILITY of students to OBJECTIVELY apply knowledge of multiple chapters of their Class 12 syallabus to solve unexpected / novel numerical problems, whereas the Class 12 test the KNOWLEDGE of students to SUBJECTIVELY answer predictable questions limited to single chapters.

Therefore there is only a medium to moderate correlation between IITJEE(Mains) score and Class 12 marks since these are completely different exams testing different things.

7) This situation is being exploited by the IIT Coaching class mafias like Allen, Resonance, FIITJEE, Bansals etc. mainly centered in Kota who "arrange" that their students are simultaneously admitted as dummy students into dubious CBSE recognised schools which they never actually attend. Kota coaching classes are also responsible for paper leakage, high tech cheating and tampering with submitted papers. So completely undesirable students are regularly getting into IITs through the backdoor and then are dropping out.

8) As I also assist Navodya Schools in Delhi in RTI, which were having a chronic problem with their Maths teachers (misusing RTI because they were unwilling to work after also doing private coaching outside) and even the prestigious Navodaya students were failing, I had developed a CBSE maths program compartment crash learning package which has 100% pass results in teaching the entire Class 12 maths syllabus sufficiently in 1 month to pass the exam. So every year in the month of June after CBSE results are declared I am approached by desperate parents whose children have done cleared various entrance exams but who failed in Class 12 CBSE maths.  For eg. this year I had students from as far afield as Vishakapatnam ( 8% in CBSE Maths after being destroyed by Sri Chaitanya), and Gorakhpur (11% in CBSE Maths destroyed by FIITJEE) etc. All have passed the compartment in first shot and are now doing Engg or other professional courses like 5 year Law etc.

9) The decision of 8.April.2016 to "raise" the NIT criteria also to 75% is a completely corrupt one taken by Ms. Smriti Zubin Irani and done so as to ensure that all the now affected students of FIITJEE, Aakash, Allens, Resonance etc below 75% will have no option but to go to dubious and very expensive engg. Universities (recognised u/s 2f of UGC Act and so mostly out of AICTE scope)  which are all benamidaars of politicians to park their black money.

10 So please join us in supporting our principled (and very well researched) stand  to oppose the new 75% criteria imposed for NIT admissions, since the unglamorous NITs are the only option for reasonably good students who wish to stay out of clutches of the IIT coaching mafias and the bakwaas private engg. colleges.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:25 PM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Sarabjit ji,
Thankyou for sharing your personal experience.Nothing anyone says can contest that.
Sir, my main contention is that let not mediocrity become a norm.

As you rightly say, we hve ppl at top helm of Delhi city who are IIT alumnus and conducting themselves in such deplete manner.Sometimes this makes one wonder if we are going forwards or backwards.

And this also summsup the situation in Academics.
With your good knowledge plz ensure that Merit Wins.

Not a impossible situation, am sure.Infact a south indian gentleman, an erstwhile Cabinet Secretary has given a report on HRD reforms some time back.
Am not knowledgeable enough to know if same pertains to the subject.

Apologies for being a idealist.
With Regards.

On 1 Sep 2016 10:51, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear respected Dua ji

The situation is not as simple as that, if only it were so. Some random thoughts

There is a hugely profitable IIT-JEE coaching mafia which operates in select cities where poor/middle-class families turn to in desperation because schools are so bad.

This is coupled with mushrooming of sub-standard private engineering colleges (masquerading as State Universities and thus out of AICTE ambit) churning out worthless engineers who are unable to get into "good" institutes. Most of these institutes are benaamis of netas.

Then you have SC/ST/OBC reservations which take away 50% seats

The mark distribution for CBSE exams is badly skewed because of rampant coaching classes and is far from normal (ie. not at all bell shaped) distribution.

The IIT-JEE (Mains) exam itself is badly flawed, and does not put forward the right candidates for IIT. BTW, I am not saying this, the IIT Directors are saying it. The IIT (Advanced) is still a respectable enough exam.

The Class 12 exam marks have low correlation to IIT JEE engg. entrance exam marks. The skill sets being tested are quite different.

Incidentally, although I myself qualified for IIT (through JEE) and got Mechanical Engg. in IIT-Delhi, I instead opted to join BITS Pilani (as a Maharastra HSC Board ranker) for it. Later in 1986 when I joined IIT-Delhi for M.Tech in Mech Engg, I found the faculty and academics there so pathetic that I un-enrolled myself after 10 days.

That my choice was correct, can be summed up by looking at Arvind Kejriwal, who I am very sure does not remember ABC of what he learned of Mechanical at IIT despite his getting a First Div in it, and who was found to be completely incompetent to be an engineer by Tatas when he joined them.

.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 9:10 AM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Respectfully Disagree with the plea in this post.
May bring to kind notice of all concerned that 75 percent is minimum to qualify for application into any decent institute these days.With all the gadgets available these days and today's gen this is the minimum % we expect frm the entry level students to any recognized Institute.
We don't want JNU type money eating joints where so called students loiter around for yrs.
Infact agree with last para of the above plea that 75percent minimum shd be set for all entry level.
Regards to all.

On 1 Sep 2016 02:46, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

From:
INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan

B-59 Defence Colony, New Delhi 110024

Tel : +91-8010205897

To:

1) Shri. Prakash Javadekar
Hon'ble Minister of HRD

2) Shri. R. Subrahmanyam
Additional Secretary (TE)

BY EMAIL

Respected Sirs,

I regret to inform you that many student members of India Against Corruption, jan andolan, ("IAC") are greatly concerned and aggrieved by the rather strange decision dt. 8.April.2016 of the Dept. Of Higher Education,  communicated by Shri. R. Subrahmanyam Additional Secretary (TE), in File no. F-19-5/2014/TS 1 to set a base eligibility criteria of 75% aggregate in "best of 5" Class XII subjects even for admission into the National Institute of Technologies (NITs).

As we are also the replying stakeholders to the Dept's public notice of Nov. 2015 on this issue, we wish to strongly protest / object that at no stage in the consultation process was it communicated to us, or recommended or even suggested by the IIT Council / the Committee of so-called Eminent persons that a minimum of 75% marks in aggregate in Class 12 is proposed to be imposed for admission into the NITs.

Notably, the present eligibility for the NITs is only for minimum 50% aggregate in class 12, so this sudden and unexplained 50% base hike in eligibility criteria is very disquieting to us.

We are therefore seriously concerned that perhaps this new eligibility criteria for the NITs has inadvertently crept into the letter dt. 08.April.2016.  To ascertain this we had applied in RTI for some specific information concerning this, but the file is somehow not accessible to the dealing CPIO to provide us the details.

Because this issue affects the lives of lacs of students, and every day is precious to their preparations, IAC urges you to kindly URGENTLY and PERSONALLY re-examine this matter so that the average / poorer students who do not have the benefit of coaching even for Board exams can get a fair crack at the NITs through the IIT-JEE (Mains) as they do presently.

Needless to say that IAC fully supports imposing highest standards in India's education, and we say this same requirement for at least 75% in  class 12 criteria should also be equally applied, say, for admission into the National Law Colleges or to sit for the CLAT or for anyone to become the Chief Justice of India or even to practice as an advocate.

sincerely

Er. Sarbajit Roy

National Convenor,

India Against Corruption, jan andolan

B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

Tel : +91-8010205897
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Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS

How  this group rates its ability to modulate public opinion and in turn effect percentage of votes?

 

RN Goil

On Friday, 2 September 2016 7:04 AM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

Please comment only on the subject-i.e Chief justice need to show restraint in his observations. No need to comment'who is qualified and who is not.

Only those comments are posted which are cleared by the moderator/convenor Mr. S. Roy. He may clarify more on the so-called India-resists forum,its object, subject matters for discussion and background of people who are on this link. 

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS

 

Are those commenting upon judiciary, laws, bureaucracy, governance, etc. are qualified to comment. Firstly, one must study "as the things exist", or "as the judiciary is, bureaucracy is, as the law is etc. next step is try to understand why the things are "as they are". There is difference between what aught to be and what is. When one find faults with system in place either it could be lack of proper education or knowledge or unguided person who is unable to focus and identify the root cause and find solution to it. In the world every problem has a solution. Most of the discussion at emanating from the so called India-resists seems to be from confused lot. 

All over the world there are more are less identical common law system where universal principles are same such as separation of power in governance of democratically elected government. That is, executive, legislature and judiciary are three pillars providing check and balance of functions. In common law countries there are rights and privileges conferred on citizens through enunciated guarantee by written constitution. The functions of law making is distributed between federal or central government and states in federal system etc. None of the arguments put forward in the emails circulated have either theoretical or practical or academic basis. It is like self deception.   

Dr. Ratnakar Gedam  

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS

Indian judiciary and governance is a 

systematic vandelism by the (pseudo) elites - wherever they are.

The problem is British left, but not their beuracracy. This applies in the case of judges also. But British have changed, we still have their code of conduct.

Will India become quality based, one day!

Doubtful. Root cause is the failure of our educational system, and failure of our elites. Most are egocentric and do not participate in nation building exercise - global economy a boon for them. This lead to bickering, private education, somehow employed in th Govt, or otherwise, get "alms", amaze wealth, and abuse all innocents, 95% of India, for their favour. With every move, corruption is systematised: a perfect system, including judiciary, has been developed.

India is still the best - we boast - for democracy and  tolerance. But when will a common man get a service from GOVT, without paying a 'price'. 

The light in the tunnel is far away.

Pitchappan

On Friday, August 26, 2016, 20:21, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Evidently, there are ills  in our judicial system. No use blaming only judiciary for the same. It is a combination of so many factors - some of which that come to mind are as follows -

1. Outdated laws that the executive has failed to update.
2. Very large number of vacancies in Judiciaries for which political bosses and executives are equally responsible as the judiciary itself. Bureaucratic delays in approvals are galore.
3. Government the biggest litigant - responsible the bureaucratic approach - some times Govt goes for litigation for small sums up to supreme court against poor employees / residents.
4. Advocates - who by unscrupulous means keep on extending the proceedings by forcing adjournments for their personnel gains
5. Corruption amongst advocates as well as judiciary

R.N.Malhotra

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Friday, August 19, 2016, 1:31 PM



 




19/8/16



This holier than thou attitude of the Chief justice is
not helpful. It clearly negates any suggestion for
improvement in the working of the judiciary. Corruption is
not an issue for him. Suggestion that there should be court
of Appeals in metropolitan cities
  like Chennai ,Calcutta and Mumbai is not acceptable to him.
Commercial courts for Govt. litigation is not being
implemented.Gram Panchayats and alternative fora to ease the
pendency is not being implemented.Regds  






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         CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA
NEED TO SHOW  RESTRAINT IN  HIS
OBSERVATIONS
 



In open court, Chief Justice of
India has accused central government of bringing the entire
judiciary to a "grinding halt" by sitting on the
recommendations of the collegium for appointment and
transfer
  of judges to high courts across the country. It is
disturbing that he went to the extent of saying that the
court would not shy away from a confrontation with the
government, if driven to a corner.  He made such
remarks even when the Attorney General assured
  that the issue would be taken up at the highest
level.



Even while the Chief Justice made
such sharp remarks, the law minister has said that 
appointment of number of judges would be finalized very
soon. Is Chief Justice not aware of this?



The collegium issue has been under
discussions for quite sometime now and many have questioned
the judges themselves appointing the judges , when several
judges at various levels have been caught in corruption
  scandals with one former Chief Justice of India
himself  being one of the accused.
Government stand appears  to
be that there must be proper procedure and transparency in
selection of judges. There is nothing wrong with this view.

 Chief Justice rejects the
government's view and insists that he should have the
final say. This stand of the Chief Justice is the origin of
the confrontation.



It would have been appropriate if
Chief Justice has read the mood of the people, who are
increasingly not sure about  the caliber of some of the
judges.


Reflecting such public mood , he
should accept the need for a level of transparency in the
appointment of judges. Threat of confrontation by Chief
Justice is not in tune with the functioning  of the
judiciary.
 



N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice for The
Deprived







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Re: [IAC#RG] [hindiUSA] Sushma ji has to explain this.

JSK.  What is happening to Hindu causes?   Any relief for innocent Sadhvi Pragya, or Aseemanan, or Col Purohit?  BJP is in power for over 2 years now.   Anyone paying attention?   Regards.

LOVE ALL.  SERVE ALL

JAI SHRI KRISHAN.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Satya D hitaya123@gmail.com [hindiUSA] <hindiUSA-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

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Date: Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:52 PM
Subject: Sushma ji has to explain this.
To: "sushmaswaraj@hotmail.com" <sushmaswaraj@hotmail.com>, narendra modi <mndd@hotmail.com>, "pmosb@pmo.nic.in" <pmosb@pmo.nic.in>
Cc:

Sushma ji has been an exemplary External Affairs Minister but it is strange that she wants to be part of this canonization drama and going to Vatican for Mother Theresa.  Do we see Israel or China doing similar thing?   

None other than our Father of Nation who has been so vocal and against missionary agenda.  It is said that Gandhi ji was not even close to as bitter against British occupation as to against Christian Missionary activity in India.  Swami Vivekananda ji said, it is not that we lost one person but we gained a hater.

Living in US I was surprised the under current of division of Christian Americans and Hindu Americans.  That is not surprising that Church created division runs deep even if they changed the countries and moved on by several generations.

There is enormous literature including what happened to many millions collected by Mother Teresa Charity and extensive literature on Christian missionary agenda which in large picture are also tools throughout history to occupy and conquer around the world.

So please explain to us why you are doing it?  What is this meekness that we have in our hearts that we are afraid to face the truth?

Regards,
Satya

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Sent: Thu, Sep 1, 2016 7:25 am
Subject: [haindavakeralam] Why is Sushma Swaraj going for canonization drama?

India's External Affairs Minister is leading a big gang to Vatican to participate in the canonization drama being enacted there to honour ace convertress , the Albanian nun Teresa. Her deep rooted hatred for Hinduism motivated her to launch a Hindu conversion spree. She started her hate campaign against Hindus from behind the famous Kalighat temple, where she managed to set up her conversion headquarters. Masquerading under the guise of social service and propelled by Western media advertisement power, she was conducting her conversion campaigns brazenly. She was a fanatic Roman Catholic and was intolerant even to Protestants, and went on converting them. Millions of dollars were pumped by bigoted christians from around the world to fund her vicious conversion spree. Hyper publicity in the media masked her conversion agenda. Why is the Indian external affairs minister Ms.Sushma Swaraj running to the Vatican to honor this Hindu hater? What self respect is she showing ? Standing before Hindu haters and the Chief Converter (Pope) what dignity does she have? These bigoted converters are as vicious as ISIS terrorists, only difference is one does it silently and the other does it openly. Should our external affairs minister waste taxpayers money and participate in an anti Hindu program? Teresa's organization is still active in India, parts of Asia and Africa, trying to convert people to christianity. She has a horde of active converters, roaming all over hunting for conversion prey. India which claims to be foolishly secular has no business participating in a communal program, being hosted in the Converters Headquarters(Vatican). Plane loads of converters from Kerala are heading to Vatican to participate in honouring the Hindu hater. This also indicates the utter hatred the Kerala converted christians harbor against Hindus. Do not be deluded by their cheap imitations of lighting Hindu lamps, erecting Dhwajastambhams, copying Hindu bhajans, using Hindu names for themselves as well as desert Jews, these are all conversion gimmicks. Brave Hindus in Mandekolu, Sullia Taluk in Karnataka are rallying against the Islamic conversions being conducted by the Therbiyathul Islam Sabha of Mukhandar in Kozhikode. Hindus in every district in India should rally against these foreign religions and all types of conversions. Do not honor converters, Ms.Sushma Swaraj. Show respect for Hindus and Hinduism.  

 

GSK Menon

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[IAC#RG] Comments for moderation please

Sir/ Madam

1.         Your observations and suggestion that responses be restricted to the subject   matter approved by the moderator are well appreciated. Indeed I responded only             when subject matter was got distorted by topics like corruption, nepotism etc. It is         your prerogative either to circulate other's comment or not as you are maintaining     the website and relevant work at certain cost.

 

2.         In my opinion there is no need for restraining CJI as he has not only right of             freedom to speak but also to point out the facts to GOI fearlessly, as he has to act          fearlessly, under pressure or threat. Both executive as well as judiciary must not        interfere in each others' functioning. Moreover, independence of judiciary can be    only maintained if they act fearlessly, impartially and judicially and not by           apprehension that one segment or other segment or personalities like PM, CM,             political chiefs would get annoyed.   

 

3.         However, reconciliation between judiciary and executive could be possible when     both restrained themselves. NJCA was rejected / held illegal          as there was     provision for Minister of Law as one of the key player in appointment.

 

4.         Article 124 (2) stipulates that "Every Judge of the Supreme Court shall be appointed             by the President by warrant under his hand and seal after consultation with such of          the Judges of the Supreme Court and of the High Courts in the States as the        President may deem necessary for the purpose and shall hold office until he attains the age of sixty-five years: Provided that in the case of appointment of a Judge   other than the Chief Justice, the Chief Justice of India shall always be consulted.

 

5.         No where the procedure of appointment of judges is stipulated therefore whether      collegiums system or NJCA is better option is disputed. In fact, NJCA was better as            far as transparency is concerned and executive has authority to appoint judges but      NJCA has been declared as unconstitutional. This has aggravated the clash between           judiciary and executive. As far as solution is concerned both executive and   judiciary need to be restrained.  

 

My views on issues being raised are summarized as follows:

 

No.	Issue	My views or Comments
1	Remark of Grinding Halt and conflict Collegiums v NJAC	Since NJAC has been held unconstitutional, till new act is made GOI should allow collegiums  system to function and allow appointment of judges to HCs and SC
2	Comments on PM's Speech on 15th August 2016	Indeed as CJI it was expected to address at least briefly on problems of judiciary. Often judiciary is blamed for slow progress in disposal of cases without providing adequate judges. Also not accepting recommendations made by CJI tantamount to sabotaging functioning.
3	Law Minister's remarks	Indeed CJI of India is answerable to the President of India alone and Ministers are expected to assist CJI not order.
4	Transparency in appointment of judges	Yes, it is essential but it is under collegiums system it is not possible. Collegiums system was to replace by NJCA
5	Delays and workload	Unless adequate strength is provided workload cannot be reduced nor could delays be avoided.

 

In view of the above, in my opinion there is no need for showing restraint by CJI as delays in appointment judges based on recommendations made by the collegiums system, tantamount undermine the authority of CJI, which causes frustration, and such frustration needs some vent for airing grievances. There is hardly any case for taking note of petty incidents.

 

In view of the above, in my opinion there is no need for showing restraint as frustration needs some vent for airing grievances. 

 

Dr. Ratnakar Gedam