Saturday, January 30, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] LODHA Committee report on cricket

How can legalising prevent fixing? Imagine this move destroying the morality of the society and ruin the finances of the gullible. Don't even think of it. Regards

Rina Mukherji <rina.mukherji@gmail.com> wrote:

Government line or not, legalising betting will prevent the murkiness that has crept in to our sports. And pray, what is wrong with that, when you can have government lotteries, lifting of prohibition and the like.  Remember, we have government -run liquor shops too.

The latter have prevented deaths from drinking illicit liquor!

Dr Rina Mukherji

Kolkata

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:55 AM, Prakash Katoch <prakashkatoch7@gmail.com> wrote:
Very simple - Lodha always toed the government line. This joker presided over the Gen VK Singh case !

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
After reading the Lodha Committee report on Indian cricket my initial comments :-

https://lodhacommittee.wordpress.com/

1) How was this person (Justice (retd) RM Lodha)) ever elevated to SC, going on to become CJI ?

2) It seems there is more "fixing" in these kind of retired judges reports than in the BCCI. {Cure being worse than the disease)

3) Saying that betting must be legalised is like saying sale of narcotics should also be legalised. Very conveniently Justice (?) Lodha recommends that this legalised betting industry should be regulated by retired High Court judges.[Presumably one mafia will smoothly replace another]

IAC wonders what is more dangerous for the nation, puffed up retired interfering duffers like Ajit Doval who bungle our security to score brownie points or such retired judges ?

Sarbajit

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Tuesday, January 26, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Legal wrangles, as we all know, can never SOLVE a problem. It can only postpone a decision, sometimes indefinitely. The solution lies in everyone tuning their engines consenciously, CNG buses and LPG autos. Educate your Sardarji mechanics on environment and vehicle exhaust pollution. They will understand better, faster than us.


Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

>Sir
>
>To better assist you, I reproduce the section (115 MVA)
>
>"115. Power to restrict the use of vehicles.—The State Government or
>any authority authorised in this behalf by the State Government, if
>satisfied that it is necessary in the interest of public safety or
>convenience, or because of the nature of any road or bridge, may by
>notification in the Official Gazette, prohibit or restrict, subject to
>such exceptions and conditions as may be specified in the
>notification, the driving of motor vehicles or of any specified class
>or description of motor vehicles or the use of trailers either
>generally in a specified area or on a specified road and when any such
>prohibition or restriction is imposed, shall cause appropriate traffic
>signs to be placed or erected under section 116 at suitable places:
>Provided that where any prohibition or restriction under this section
>is to remain in force for not more than one month, notification
>thereof in the Official Gazette shall not be necessary, but such local
>publicity as the circumstances may permit, shall be given of such
>prohibition or restriction."
>
>The ODD-EVEN notification restricts/prohibits "plying"of vehicles
>based on their last digit
>
>The dictionary definitions of "plying" in context of vehicles is
>
>Oxford
>http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/learner/ply
>"(literary or Indian English) (of ships, buses, etc.) to travel
>regularly along a particular route or between two particular places +
>adv./prep. Ferries ply across a narrow strait to the island. The train
>plies twice a day between Paris and Madrid. Buses ply regularly to and
>from these places."
>
>Cambridge
>http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ply
>"ply verb (TRAVEL)
>› [I + adv/prep, T] old-fashioned When a ​boat, ​train, ​bus, etc.
>plies a ​particular ​route, it makes that ​journey ​regularly:
>High-speed ​trains ​regularly ply between Paris and Lyons. This
>​airline has been plying the ​transatlantic ​route for many ​years."
>
>Miram Webster
>"to go or travel regularly,
>a : to make a practice of rowing or sailing over or on <the boat
>plies the river>
>b : to go or travel regularly over, on, or through <jets plying the skies>"
>
>This notification, does not, to my own mind, restrict occasional
>driving of private personal vehicles.
>
>This notification was MALAFIDELY issued at last moment (28th evening)
>so that this aspect was not clarified.
>
>The views of all our list advocates is solicited to clarify this point
>and provide the law citations
>
>Sarbajit
>
>
>On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the context plying clearly would mean driving whether by the owner
>> himself or by an engaged driver.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 10-Jan-2016, at 11:07 am, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Sureshan
>>>
>>> As a SC advocate, could you clarify my tiny legal doubt on ODD-EVEN
>>> scheme.
>>>
>>> The ODD-EVEN notification only prohibits/restricts the "plying" of
>>> vehicles,whereas the concerned section 115 of .Motor Vehicle Act
>>> empowers prohibition of "driving" of vehicles.
>>>
>>> Surely the lawyers like you are not restricted by this notification
>>> from "driving" your vehicles on all days to attend court.
>>>
>>> Perhaps some seniors like Shanti Bhushanji can examine it since the
>>> dictionary definition of "plying" means to do so "regularly ...
>>> usually for commercial purposes".
>>>
>>> It seems to me that Kejriwal has played yet another FRAUD on people of
>>> Delhi
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/16, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear All ,
>>>> If any body has tried to board Metro train during peak hours then they
>>>> will
>>>> realize the exact problem. Delhi public are suffering and cursing
>>>> Kejriwal
>>>> and his company. Public will not violate rule as they don't want to pay
>>>> hefty fine. This is nothing new in Delhi as general Public avoid
>>>> spiting
>>>> in Metro stations on account of strict monitoring. People is not going
>>>> to
>>>> violate any law if strict punishment is provided. If Kejriwal Ban all
>>>> male
>>>> from getting out of their home by insisting hefty fine against
>>>> violations
>>>> with strict monitoring none will come out.If medias and court has shown
>>>> blind eye on such bans whole world will think that every thing is fine.
>>>>
>>>> In fact an undeclared emergency is going on in Delhi by curtailing the
>>>> fundamental rights of large number of citizens. Kejriwal is a New Born
>>>> Hitler ( don't be surprised He will become a Hitler and rule this
>>>> country
>>>> in future, any doubt then refer life history of Hitler ) see How
>>>> Kejriwal
>>>> shut the mouth of all institutions by lies and false hood , and how he
>>>> destroyed all individual rights by highlighting common good.
>>>> Suffering individuals in Delhi is outnumbered in this case because
>>>> majority
>>>> of people are already using public conve

Thursday, January 21, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Dear Munishji,

Thanks for this coverage by your Newsportal. Your reporter came to the site at the ground that we want to be saved. The volunteers felt good that the cause is spreading out. The interview he took is giving a good synopsis of the essence of the cause.
Below is the link. I wish others in the mailing  list also see it.


On the subject, latest is that CM Kejriwal is too disregardful of our demands.
 Pl see today's The Hindu.


 5000 people signing also do not merit his attention. He seems to have gone a bit too arrogant. Populism is his only objective now. Anyway, we shall continue to fight till we win.

regards,

Diwan Singh

Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Dr. Munish Raizada <pedia333@gmail.com> wrote:
Diwan Singh ji:

I had a look at the video also. Your point of view is well taken. Keep up your fight.
We would also like to raise your struggle via NewsGram (www.NewsGram.com). A reporter will reach out to you.



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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been associated with Kejriwal for last 16 years since the days of Parivartan. I was its founding member. Though I would appreciate his penchant for fighting administrative, financial corruption, but his knowledge and viewpoint on the corruption that goes with development model is non existent. This is more serious then the administrative corruption. This is a corruption of ideology that directly affect the development of millions in the city.He is fooling people in name of swaraj at the same time.

This Odd Even is a drama he is doing, as he refuse to go into basics of pollution problem that lies in the development model.

8 lakh people live in a stretch in Mundka Kirari area in West Delhi, with no open space and playgrounds, and consequently, pollution levels crossing 1000 units. To get a gasp of breath, the residents want that the last remaining 147 acres under DSSIDC be left for a biodiversity park and playfields. For last 6 months we raised this campaign, met the minister Satender jain, the local MLAs and got more than 5000 signatures on petition to CM.

On 6th January, 2016 I with a delegation met Kejriwal to present this demand. But he was totally against any balanced development. He want industries and create employment, no scope for green space in his model of development. He has only populist agenda up his sleeve.  He only sees votes in every task.

See coverage of this camapign by ZEE News at - https://youtu.be/d4VF7lTE3mE

Below is the what transpired in the meeting with Kejriwal:

"In the morning of 6th Jan, we met the CM at his residence at Civil Lines, Delhi. After long argument, he said, he would look into the matter and discuss with minister Satender Jain. But the reason he was giving to refuse our demands were lopsided and populist. He said we need to look for balanced development and playgrounds, parks can not be created everywhere to meet people' s fancy demands. To this we contended that, exactly so, for the sake of balanced development, we are making our demands; as the area is a concrete jungle with no green space as balance. We requested him to define ' balanced development." We also narrated to him the reaction of his Industry Minister, Mr. Satender Jain. Mr Jain had said that the Government wanted revenue that would be obtained by selling, leasing this land to factories; and can not afford to lose this huge chunk of land to green demands. we submitted 5000 signatures from residents and signatures from two local MLAs. We submitted the pollution readings of the area. And a calculation as per MPD norms, with finding that there is requirement of 867 acres as green open space for the area. But, we have only 20-30 acres in this area. The CM said, we have to create jobs through industrial area. To this, Radha Devi from Prem nagar contended that we can go for job to a farther place, commute another 5 kms, but we can get good air only from our neighborhood. Ashish from Rajdhani Park suggested that the project maybe shifted to 300 acres complex at Kanjhawla. There is enough open space around that location and the desired balance can be achieved there. Gaurav Pandey, the young student from Premnagar was categorical that we can not afford to survive without playgrounds. Once during the discussion, kejriwalji heaped all blame on environmentalist and pointed fingers at Diwan Singh for such standoffs. On this the 8 members in the team replied that we are simple residents, not environmentalists, and only demanding what is rightful for us, and Diwan Singh is showing us the path for it. We are, rather, thankful to him for helping us. Mr. Kejriwal then said that public would decide through Mohalla sabha. To this we suggested that some decisions have to be taken by experts, officials who are appointed for this job. That's why the government is elected so that it can use the public resources to do research, analysis and come to right decision. Making a populist call in a public gathering, and taking decision based on that, would only spoil the face of city for future. And, if he is so keen on every decision based on populist call, why do we have officials and experts in the secretariat for? Let janta (public) sit in the Secretariat and oust the officials and ministers from there. (On this, there was no response from the CM.)"

Diwan Singh
Convenor, Mundka Kirari harit Abhiyan
Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 6:22 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All ,
If any body has tried to board Metro train during peak hours then they will realize the exact problem. Delhi public are suffering and cursing Kejriwal and his company. Public will not violate  rule as they don't want to pay hefty fine. This is nothing new in Delhi  as general Public avoid spiting in Metro stations on account of strict monitoring. People is not going to violate any law if strict punishment is provided. If Kejriwal Ban all male from getting out of their home by insisting hefty fine against violations with strict monitoring none will come out.If medias and court has shown blind eye on such bans whole world will think that every thing is fine.

In fact  an undeclared  emergency is going on in Delhi by curtailing the fundamental rights of large number of citizens. Kejriwal is a  New Born Hitler ( don't be surprised He will become a Hitler and rule this country in future, any doubt then refer life history of Hitler  ) see How Kejriwal  shut the mouth of  all institutions by lies and false hood , and how he destroyed all individual rights by highlighting common good.
Suffering individuals in Delhi is outnumbered in this case because majority of people are already  using public conveyance system. No body listening  the  miseries of suffering people. Many people who depend  their own  vehicles for daily profession are deprived completely.

As said, above, medias are bribed by using public money in the form of large scale advt. Court has already taken a partisan stand by relying the words of present C.J. Remember  Only judge Like H.R Khanna stood against emergency when majority Judges are in praise of such rule.

Kejriwal is a  Megalomaniac, he will curtail every individual rights and destroy  every institution  which objects his functioning.

regards  
 

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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Shanti Bhushan ji

1) They  will not allow the "people" to access your statements.
Already AAP-Govt is regularly giving full page advts to all newspapers
like HT, ToI etc,to compromise their editorial independence. Their
organisations "dominate" Facebook and half the media/TV channels are
directly in the control of their godfathers. They use professional
SocialMedia people to run their campaign - unlike your amateurs.

2) They have taken long term steps to protect themselves in judiciary
at all levels (starting from MLA selections all the way to co-opting
senior advocates/SGs like Harish Salve, Indira Jaisingh, Gopal
Subramaniam etc to represent them at their enhanced legal fees.

3) AAP has understood the science of using public money, like it is
going out of fashion, to achieve its ends.What can your poor
jhola-wallah brigades do against this ?

Sarbajit

On 1/9/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is not a matter for a law suit.But people have to be told about these ill
> conceived actions of the govt.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 09-Jan-2016, at 1:04 am, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Shriman Shanti Bhushan ji,
>>
>> You are an accomplished attorney. At the least you can bring lawsuit
>> against Kejriwal and his puppets, can't you?
>>
>> Dr. Kumar Arun
>> India Heritage Foundation
>> facebook: Bharatiya Patriots
>>
>> From: shantibhush@gmail.com
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 16:25:02 +0530
>> CC: shalinibgupta@hotmail.com; prashantbhush@gmail.com;
>> yogendra.yadav@gmail.com; anandkumar1@hotmail.com;
>> media@swarajabhiyan.org
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop
>> show
>>
>> They have allowed garbage to accumulate as never before and encouraged
>> more and more jhuggis to come up assuring them that once they costruct
>> even on public land they will not allow their demo,it ion.Worst form of
>> vote bank politics.Even in odd even ,as the latest TV advertisement of
>> Arvind Kejriwal shows they have encouraged people to switch from cars to
>> motorcycles.Maybe these bikes could be more polluting than the cars.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 07-Jan-2016, at 1:17 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here is the official data from Ministry of Earth Sciences QAM project
>> "Safar" in the form of a graphic image showing ODD-EVEN is a complete
>> flopshow.
>>
>> Immediately on ODD-EVEN the pollution went up.from Jan-01 and kept
>> climbing and was double that of the previous year in the same period.
>> ODD-EVEN had a negligible impact.
>>
>> The question is WHAT has AAP Govt. of Delhi done in the last 1 year which
>> has generated such a huge increase in air pollution in space of 1 year ?
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> <7-1-2016-PM2.5-DELHI2014-2015 comparison-12AM.jpg>
>> ​
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Saturday, January 16, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

6/1/16

DearSirs,
Who was really behind this scheme needs to be unraveled. My thinking is -Mr. Kejriwal himself. The tussle for police control is known and in implementing this scheme the police had to cooperate with the State Govt..In other words operate under his directions and control. He also knew the judiciary will support him in this move.This is just a thought,
2It will be very interesting if AK who has been challenging the PM for open debate will accept Mr. S. Roy's offer. Why not make this offer direct to him?
3Mr. Gupta has made many pertinent points and need to be elaborated to really assess their impact on the level of pollution in Delhi.
Being familiar with the problem some of my questions/observations are as under-
1. Why is judiciary is so much concerned with pollution in Delhi and not a word about pollution in other metropolitan cities?
2. Why no proper scientific study is made-determining the various factors causing pollution and their seasonal impact?
3. Why not gender neutral policy-why exemption for ladies, VIPs.Why discriminatory policy?
4. Is the judiciary or State Govt. aware of the pathetic condition of public transport-buses, Taxis, Ricksaws and inconvenience it is causing to the Common Man?
5. There is a limit to load on metro service, there is no feeder transport supporting the commuters-from metro station to and fro home.
6. It is true that Delhi has the highest number of Vehicles as a metropolitan city but how does it compare with others cities like Mumbai in terms of density of car population as well as cities like Tokyo,Newyork or others who are managing without such schemes?
If the intention is to discourage use of private wehicles, why not raise Registration ,Road taxcharges. Delhi has the lowest among metros It will also improve finances for traffic management.
7Delhi is at the border of Thar desert. So there is lot of dust pollution.One can feel suffocated by evening in the suburbs althrough the year.
8People-whether motorist, taxi drivers, Bus Drivers are very aggressive, impatient and unruly in behaviour.Traffic jams mostly occur when they block the opposite side of the road . Mostly the traffic police is absent and it becomes a free for all on such occasions.
9.What about old Delhi- where you can,t take a car and have to depend on some other means of transport and yet the pollution level is so high.
In my opinion,Mr. S. Roy should pursue this matter as he lives in Delhi, familiar with pollution problem in Delhi and understands political behind the scene move better.
Regds-JKGaur
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Dear Guptaji and Bhushanji

The ODD-EVEN scheme is now over today and all the real time data.is in.

From the data (taking it for granted that 50% of the private cars were
actually off the roads) it will be impossible for any honest scientist
to conclude that the massive pollution (especially the u2.5 pollution
is substantially caused by these cars.So who was really behind this
scheme I wonder?

I publicly challenge Mr. Arvind Kejriwal (or any other scientifically
/ technology qualified Minister in his cabinet) to debate this matter
with me in any forum of his choice, instead of fooling the public by
paid editorials with corrupt reporters and manipulated polls in
newspapers like Hindustan Times and ToI.

I shall rely upon data from Central Govt stations like SAFAR (Min.of
Earth Science), and CPCB which anybody can download in real time from
the net. Mr.Kejriwal can compare it with his govt's DPCC data (sample
copy enclosed).

I am attaching PDF samples of the latest reports down loaded in the
last 1 hour. Sufficeth it to say that PM2.5 pollution was between 2 to
4 times the prescribed levels on the last day of ODD-EVEN and well
over last years's levels.

Sarbajit

On 1/13/16, S C Gupta <scgupta48@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Traffic In Delhi
>
> Before we go for any action to reduce pollution due to vehicles ,it is very
> important to understand cause of pollution. A few pts to be analysed as
> below:
>
> 1. Number of vehicles & pollution percentage
> 2. Flow of vehicles & obstruction to its flow
> 3. Traffic jams due to uncontrollable vehicles, two wheelers, cyclists,
> pedestrians & breakdown of vehicles
> 4. Major cause at right turn which causes breakdown of flow of traffic.
> 5. Signal lights not working or uncontrolled crossings or nonskill of
> traffic staff or no fear of law & rules.
> 6. May many more e.g. Efficiency of engines or quality of fuels etc
> SUGGESTIONS-
> 1. Strict compliance of rules & regulations by fear of punishment like heavy
> monetary fine ( 10% of cost of categories of new vehicles or seizure for
> five days with the cost for caring the vehicle for 5 days & penalty for day
> wise thereafter)
> 2. No mercy or excuse in any condition in beginning of system
> 3. Don't become emotional
> 4. 50% of Fine collected should be given as incentive to traffic staffers
> balance for maintenance of operations. ( Take legal opinion)
> 5. There could be many more as per requirement of areas.
>
> Impact of Even & Odd Formula
> 1. Mental harassment to public
> 2. Business loss
> 3. Inability to form a rigid solution
>
> SC Gupta
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11-Jan-2016, at 2:43 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes if course,if the vehicles on the road decreases,,the pollution is
>> bound to decrease.But the question is if as Arvind Kejriwal is propagating
>> in his TV Ad f a four stroke engine car is substituted by atwo stroke
>> motorcycle the pollution will decrease or increase.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>

Friday, January 15, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Dear Guptaji and Bhushanji

The ODD-EVEN scheme is now over today and all the real time data.is in.

From the data (taking it for granted that 50% of the private cars were
actually off the roads) it will be impossible for any honest scientist
to conclude that the massive pollution (especially the u2.5 pollution
is substantially caused by these cars.So who was really behind this
scheme I wonder?

I publicly challenge Mr. Arvind Kejriwal (or any other scientifically
/ technology qualified Minister in his cabinet) to debate this matter
with me in any forum of his choice, instead of fooling the public by
paid editorials with corrupt reporters and manipulated polls in
newspapers like Hindustan Times and ToI.

I shall rely upon data from Central Govt stations like SAFAR (Min.of
Earth Science), and CPCB which anybody can download in real time from
the net. Mr.Kejriwal can compare it with his govt's DPCC data (sample
copy enclosed).

I am attaching PDF samples of the latest reports down loaded in the
last 1 hour. Sufficeth it to say that PM2.5 pollution was between 2 to
4 times the prescribed levels on the last day of ODD-EVEN and well
over last years's levels.

Sarbajit

On 1/13/16, S C Gupta <scgupta48@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Traffic In Delhi
>
> Before we go for any action to reduce pollution due to vehicles ,it is very
> important to understand cause of pollution. A few pts to be analysed as
> below:
>
> 1. Number of vehicles & pollution percentage
> 2. Flow of vehicles & obstruction to its flow
> 3. Traffic jams due to uncontrollable vehicles, two wheelers, cyclists,
> pedestrians & breakdown of vehicles
> 4. Major cause at right turn which causes breakdown of flow of traffic.
> 5. Signal lights not working or uncontrolled crossings or nonskill of
> traffic staff or no fear of law & rules.
> 6. May many more e.g. Efficiency of engines or quality of fuels etc
> SUGGESTIONS-
> 1. Strict compliance of rules & regulations by fear of punishment like heavy
> monetary fine ( 10% of cost of categories of new vehicles or seizure for
> five days with the cost for caring the vehicle for 5 days & penalty for day
> wise thereafter)
> 2. No mercy or excuse in any condition in beginning of system
> 3. Don't become emotional
> 4. 50% of Fine collected should be given as incentive to traffic staffers
> balance for maintenance of operations. ( Take legal opinion)
> 5. There could be many more as per requirement of areas.
>
> Impact of Even & Odd Formula
> 1. Mental harassment to public
> 2. Business loss
> 3. Inability to form a rigid solution
>
> SC Gupta
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11-Jan-2016, at 2:43 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes if course,if the vehicles on the road decreases,,the pollution is
>> bound to decrease.But the question is if as Arvind Kejriwal is propagating
>> in his TV Ad f a four stroke engine car is substituted by atwo stroke
>> motorcycle the pollution will decrease or increase.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>

Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Traffic In Delhi

Before we go for any action to reduce pollution due to vehicles ,it is very important to understand cause of pollution. A few pts to be analysed as below:

1. Number of vehicles & pollution percentage 
2. Flow of vehicles & obstruction to its flow
3. Traffic jams due to uncontrollable vehicles, two wheelers, cyclists, pedestrians & breakdown of vehicles 
4. Major cause at right turn which causes breakdown of flow of traffic.
5. Signal lights not working or uncontrolled crossings or nonskill of traffic staff or no fear of law & rules.
6. May many more e.g. Efficiency of engines or quality of fuels etc
SUGGESTIONS-
1. Strict compliance of rules & regulations by fear of punishment like heavy monetary fine ( 10% of cost of categories of new vehicles or seizure for five days with the cost for caring the vehicle for 5 days & penalty for day wise thereafter)
2. No mercy or excuse in any condition in beginning of system
3. Don't become emotional 
4. 50% of Fine collected should be given as incentive to traffic staffers balance for maintenance of operations.         ( Take legal opinion)
5. There could be many more as per requirement of areas.

Impact of Even & Odd Formula
1. Mental harassment to public
2. Business loss
3. Inability to form a rigid solution 

SC Gupta 

Sent from my iPhone

On 11-Jan-2016, at 2:43 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes if course,if the vehicles on the road decreases,,the pollution is bound to decrease.But the question is if as Arvind Kejriwal is propagating in his TV Ad f a four stroke engine car is substituted by atwo stroke motorcycle  the pollution will decrease or increase.

Sent from my iPad

On 10-Jan-2016, at 10:42 pm, Tridib Roy Chowdhury <tridibroychowdhury@gmail.com> wrote:

The basic premise of this email chain belies logic.

1. Vehicles are an important contributor (not the only one) to pollution - YES/No?

2. More vehicles mean more pollution - must be YES, if the answer to (1) is YES.

3. Less Vehicles mean less pollution - must be YES, if answer to (2) is YES.

4. 0,5 X < X for all  X >0 . Not asking the question  YES/NO.

So having half the vehicles on the road will reduce pollution. I hope  this platform is not being used to debate this obvious fact.

Why are we not seeing the impact - I am not a weather scientist, but I would wait for a week or so before we see the change. Media reporting the data from the next day, is lack of application of mind at best  and political at worst.

Do we have comments on the implementation, and the exceptions.  Sure.  But, unless someone comes up with a more credible solution, let us give this a try.

Respectfully - 

Tridib  Roy Chowdhury. 




On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Respected Shanti Bhushan ji

The demographics of those who voted for AAP, and of those who still
believe in AAP enough to vote for them if election is held today is
fairly well known. Their populist steps are reinforcing their primary
votebank - even if alienating the second (which may mainly drift to
Congress eventually) section of their voters .

We are also not convinced that there is actually any disagreement
between BJP and AAP. We view them as 2 sides of the same coin sharing
the slogan of  "Modi for PM and AK for CM".

Even if President's Rule was "somehow" imposed again (which is
doubtful), it is not a permanent solution and it would only strengthen
AAP. and the actual questions are :-

1) What is the present alternative to AAP in Delhi ?
2) What credibility / numbers does your Swaraj Abhiyan have ?

There is no need to answer because the answer ("none") are well known.

So instead of any anti-AAP movement, it may well happen that some
"event" takes place which polarises AAP internally in a way AK
misreads.
.
Insofar as IAC's role in any further anti-corruption andolans is
concerned, of course we welcome everybody who shares our core views,
ie..

A) IAC is patriotic and anti-foreigner, so this currently means that
US sponsored anti-national entities like BJP, RSS, Gandhi-ites, are to
be opposed / rejected.

B) We are anti-World Bank imposed agendas, so LOKPAL is opposed

C) IAC stands for a united socialist secular republican agenda which
is documented in our manifesto and charter.

sincerely

Sarbajit

On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
> I entirely agree with Venkatraman.kejriwal Kejriwal has taken politics to a
> new low.He has fully embraced corruption.He is doing nothing to improve the
> lives of people in Delhi and only doing self propagation by using public
> money and buying the media.It is now important in public interest that he is
> removed from office as early as possible.The central govt has adequate
> grounds to remove him and impose Prsidents rule as he is repeatedly flouting
> the constitution.The constitution provides for imposition of Presidents rule
> if the central govt is satisfied that a govt is not acting as per the
> constitution.But the central govt is likely to take this step only if they
> feel that the people of Delhi want his removal.A campaigne needs to be
> organised to voice this demand.Can the volunteers of Anti corruption
> movement organise this?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 09-Jan-2016, at 6:58 pm, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> AAP has given the ultimate blow to the anti corruption movement in India.
>>

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Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Good Morning Friends
I by my experience of this life as well of last birth can say that CM KEJRIWAL  & PM MODI along with their near dears one IN POWER  are fooling general public and want to remain in power
Since i have REMEMBERED MY LAST BIRTH AND THUS REMEMBER HOW CONGRESS HAVE RULED OVER PARTITIONED  OUR COUNTRY AND SAME WAY IN PAKISTAN BY BE FOOLING ITS PUBLIC, first by dividing country and then by fooling general public and now AAP & MODI GOVERNMENT RULING OVER DELHI & INDIA , NO ONE IS ABLE TO THINK ABOUT POOR PUBLIC , WHO ARE MADE MORE POORER SINCE PARTITION , SO IS THE CASE IN THE WORLD OVER, AND THUS MAKING THIS EARTH AS HELL FOR GENERAL PUBLIC,WHICH THE GOD, SUPREME POWER CREATED AS HEAVEN , THUS DIVIDING GENERAL PUBLIC BY FOOLING    THEM AND RULING OVER THEM BY THEIR CUNNING NESS
MY MOTTO IS TO SEE THAT FINANCIALLY IF ALL ARE ALMOST EQUAL, THERE WONT BE ANY PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD , SO FOR THAT I M REQUESTING EVERY ONE TO VOTE BUT NOT TO ANY PARTY, ONLY INDIVIDUALS FROM THAT AREA , WHO NEVER HAD BEEN IN ANY PARTY AND NEVER WON  AND TO POOREST OF THE POOR, SO THAT HE KNOWS THE PROBLEMS OF THE MOST POOR ONES ON THE EARTH , no one can give from his pocket nor from his ancestral property , hence we the humane beings must under stand this and vote to an individuals who really does selfless service to general public like earlier, not like today's politicians
JAY HIND JAY SRI KRISHAN KRIPA BERSE SABHI PAR so that each & every one is happily enjoys his life on this earth by living peacefully without any difficulties in life

ASHOK
 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
AAP continues to rise. Punjab is 100% falling in their kitty in 2017. Delhi's MCD same way in 2017.
I believe if our objective is fighting AAP, its not the right thing. We should fight the wrongs they are doing or they are likely to do based on the what we have seen till now. similarly, we need to fight BJP for the wrongs they are doing.
AAP does not have a development vision. Thats is the saddest part. BJP does have one but its very bad for country's poor. Congress seemed to have been the most mature party till date. I was its biggest detractor and critic till recently, but seeing AAP's vision I feel Congress is a better choice now. But I would never go for it because it has been highly corrupt financially at the same time.
We have to find alternate non political strategies to get a good development model for this country and intervene in a manner that it affects politics. 

Diwan Singh

Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
No I am sure Arvind is engaging in direct financial corruption.that is taking big bribesth4ough his henchmen.
 I am not aware of either Sunita Kejriwals mid caree r training in Amsterdam  or about the family's Swiss vacation.
Sent from my iPad

> On 11-Jan-2016, at 4:06 am, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Respected Shanti Bhushan ji
>
> I presume that you mean Arvind Kejriwal has embraced corruption in its
> wider sense, ie. not strictly in terms of financial corruption per se
> by way of taking direct bribes, but in a more general sense of
> anything which corrupts or influences by extraneous considerations his
> performance as a Chief Minister.
>
> If there was so actually so much tension between Centre and State,
> would Arun Jaitley have approved Ms.Sunita Kejriwal's recent trip to
> Amsterdam for Mid-career training program ? Would Arvind Kejriwal
> really get away with abusing his wife's ultimate boss.
>
> I seem to recall that when the controversy over Ms.Kejriwal paying for

> the Swiss family Kejriwal's vacation through a PF loan arose,
> apparently an AAP spokesperson said
>
> "Why can't Kejriwal's family spend time in Swiss resorts ?
> Obviously they didn't go there to open a bank account"
>
> Was it Mr.Jaitleys strong PR who got this story pulled from national media ?
> And why didn't any of the Ambani controlled  / funded TV networks run
> it prominently ?
> And most importantly, why did the Income Tax Depts' CPIO deny RTI informants
> who applied to know.about  this Swiss trip.
>
> Sir, this is all theatrics to distract public from the wholesale
> corruption which BJP
> and AAP are doing jointly and in collusion.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>> On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In my opinion Arvind Kejriwal has already embraced corruption.He was
>> supported by all of us quite vigorously to usher in an era of clean
>> politics,He has shamelessly and ruthlessly abandoned that path and made it
>> quite difficult for people to repose much faith in any future attempts to
>> clean up politics and to make it an honest pursuit to find solutions to the
>> problems of different sections of people with the help of experts in those
>> fields.It is in my opinion therefore necessary that Kejriwal gets punished
>> for so blatantly betraying a noble cause.I have not the least doubt that
>> once he is out of power his party itself will disintegrate .He had made 70
>> promises but has not taken any steps to fulfil any of them.It is my
>> experience that any edifice based on falsehood and fraud does not last too
>> long.I agree that while Swaraj Abhiyan may be doing good work it is not a
>> political force .I however believe that as time passes ,since no improvement
>> is taking place in any sector,dissatisfaction against the AAP govt will keep
>> growing.Perhaps the municipal elections in 2017 might show this.The
>> elections to the Rajya Sabha from Delhi for the three Delhi seats have to be
>> held before 27th January 2018.If Arinds govt continues till then all the
>> three seats will go to Arvinds nominees.I don't think the Central Govt will
>> allow this to happen.They may either impose Presidents rule before that date
>> as Arvind every day keeps acting contrary to the constitution repeatedly,or
>> they may cause a split to take place among the MLAs leading to the fall of
>> govt.I know that most of the MLAs of AAP are corrupt and can be lured.Let us
>> wait see how things unfold.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 10-Jan-2016, at 5:02 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Respected Shanti Bhushan ji
>>>
>>> The demographics of those who voted for AAP, and of those who still
>>> believe in AAP enough to vote for them if election is held today is
>>> fairly well known. Their populist steps are reinforcing their primary
>>> votebank - even if alienating the second (which may mainly drift to
>>> Congress eventually) section of their voters .
>>>
>>> We are also not convinced that there is actually any disagreement
>>> between BJP and AAP. We view them as 2 sides of the same coin sharing
>>> the slogan of  "Modi for PM and AK for CM".
>>>
>>> Even if President's Rule was "somehow" imposed again (which is
>>> doubtful), it is not a permanent solution and it would only strengthen
>>> AAP. and the actual questions are :-
>>>
>>> 1) What is the present alternative to AAP in Delhi ?
>>> 2) What credibility / numbers does your Swaraj Abhiyan have ?
>>>
>>> There is no need to answer because the answer ("none") are well known.
>>>
>>> So instead of any anti-AAP movement, it may well happen that some
>>> "event" takes place which polarises AAP internally in a way AK
>>> misreads.
>>> .
>>> Insofar as IAC's role in any further anti-corruption andolans is
>>> concerned, of course we welcome everybody who shares our core views,
>>> ie..
>>>
>>> A) IAC is patriotic and anti-foreigner, so this currently means that
>>> US sponsored anti-national entities like BJP, RSS, Gandhi-ites, are to
>>> be opposed / rejected.
>>>
>>> B) We are anti-World Bank imposed agendas, so LOKPAL is opposed
>>>
>>> C) IAC stands for a united socialist secular republican agenda which
>>> is documented in our manifesto and charter.
>>>
>>> sincerely
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>>> On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I entirely agree with Venkatraman.kejriwal Kejriwal has taken politics to
>>>> a
>>>> new low.He has fully embraced corruption.He is doing nothing to improve
>>>> the
>>>> lives of people in Delhi and only doing self propagation by using public
>>>> money and buying the media.It is now important in public interest that he
>>>> is
>>>> removed from office as early as possible.The central govt has adequate
>>>> grounds to remove him and impose Prsidents rule as he is repeatedly
>>>> flouting
>>>> the constitution.The constitution provides for imposition of Presidents
>>>> rule
>>>> if the central govt is satisfied that a govt is not acting as per the
>>>> constitution.But the central govt is likely to take this step only if
>>>> they
>>>> feel that the people of Delhi want his removal.A campaigne needs to be
>>>> organised to voice this demand.Can the volunteers of Anti corruption
>>>> movement organise this?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>

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