Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

I perfectly agree with the Mr. Kris Dev.

Though it seems ridiculous or unpractical , it will be helpful for eradicating the corruption.

And on positive side, using the electronic transaction will help monitor our daily expenses.

Though such system should be monitored and managed with stringent measures for protection of common man.

Regards,

Mr. Hemant 

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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Kris Dev <krisdev@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I have been communicating with IAC in the past. I asked them to advocate banning of currency circulation in stages, first removing Rs. 1000 and Rs 500 from circulation to weed out black money and fake currency. The genuine currency with citizens can be deposited in banks and their bank account updated. Next rs 100 and rs 50 currency notes can be removed from circulation and so on.

Instead of liquid cash, Biometric Smart Card can be the medium of transaction. This would leave an indelible audit trail. Most scams can be eradicated. Elections can be made transparent. Are the anti-corruption advocating NGOs for total transparency and accountability?

What do others in this forum think?

Kris Dev
Independent Anti-corruption Activist
Chennai

--
"He/she should not do that which he/she knows to be wrong, and suffer the consequence whatever it may be, this is the key to the use of soul-force."

On 1 December 2012 09:56, M Baig <raaz.baig@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Reddy

Not everybody is now so convinced about honesty of Arvind Kejriwal and Manish Sisodia as you are.

Not everybody in IAC is convinced about the decision to form a political party - AAP.

Not everybody is satisfied with non-transparent and vague accounts which Arvind and Manish have given about  funds collected in name of IAC

Not everybody is convinced about how India Against Corruption "initiative" came about, called on Prime Minister and then some IAC "organisation" began corresponding with Delhi Police and MCD to book Jantar Mantar and Ram Lila grounds for Anna Hazare's fasts. These actions have caused great CRIMINAL LIABILITY for IAC which those persons cannot now run away from. Will Dr. Kiran Bedi former IPS take responsibility for these actions ?

Haven't you been seeing the photos in Arvind ki Junngle mein Mangal series on "RealAamAadmiParty" blog . How can you still say that they are honest and sober people ? IAC does not want such persons.

example
https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/iac/2012-11/msg00232.html

Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, MVReddy  wrote:

As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort against Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all these people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of AAP. But people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind Kesariwal. Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is really sad that  people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public this way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam associated people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to have synergistic effect. 

Hope sense will prevail in these people.

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Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

Dear Mr Reddy

I have known Arvind for quite some time, about 10 years when we both started using Delhi RTI Act. We first met outside Office of the Chairperson Delhi Public Grievance Commission who was the Appellate Authority for Delhi RTI Act.

Even in those days Arvind was a very confused and hyper person with a perpetual chip on his shoulder that the entire system was corrupt. He used to file all sorts of wild RTIs and never used to get information. He used to publicly abuse the Chairperson Ms. Shailaja Chandra IAS and make  wild allegations against her. He never got any information out of her because of his attitude. I on the other hand invariably used to get favourable orders from her and I went on to use the information obtained to great effect.

Arvind in those days was unemployed (or as we say 'vela') since he had fought with the Govt and was on leave. He formed a group known as "Delhi RTI Munch" of people who used to assemble outside Shailaja Chandra's office. Initially I was also in it, then they started dreaming up all sorts corruption fantasies involving her and many people left after bitter quarrels, and they got my friend Mr. Ravindra Balwani (he was a simple noble soul who obliged everybody) to level a complaint against her in the LokAyukta. The legal process being what it is, after levelling the accusations they refused to come forward with evidence, and finally after  4 years Ms. Chandra was exonerated after she went to High Court. This has always been Arvind';s modus operandi - level half baked allegations and then run away when it comes to giving evidence.

It is only because of Arvind's special relationship with people like Aruna Roy, Harsh Mander and Shekhar Singh that he could survive in Delhi in those early days. Whenever he was short of money, some foreign award like Ashoka or Magsaysay used to be conveniently arranged for him by these people. In those days Arvind even used to carry Aruna Roy's handbag and mobile when Nikhil Dey was not around.

These ringmasters also arranged that Arvind and his wife were always posted in Delhi/NCR region for 20(?) years to act as their peon. Later of course Arvind turned the table on some of them by setting up his own outfit and power base.

All these people, are professional touts who "sing for their supper" knowing very well that "he who pays the piper calls the tune". If you want to know more about this deeply entrenched anti-national NGO industry racket please read the very well researched book by Dr. Krishen Kak IAS which completely exposes them and their methods.

http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?Itemid=109&id=843&option=com_content&task=view

There is more than enough material in public domain to show that all these people, Arvind, Anna, Kiran Bedi etc are all professional foreign financed trouble makers, wo are only concerned for themselves & their foreign paymasters and not for the public.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:33 AM, MVR Reddy <reddymvr@gmail.com> wrote:

As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort against Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all these people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of AAP. But people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind Kesariwal. Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is really sad that  people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public this way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam associated people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to have synergistic effect. 

Hope sense will prevail in these people.

Writing with anguish.

- MVR

Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

Dear all,

I have been communicating with IAC in the past. I asked them to advocate banning of currency circulation in stages, first removing Rs. 1000 and Rs 500 from circulation to weed out black money and fake currency. The genuine currency with citizens can be deposited in banks and their bank account updated. Next rs 100 and rs 50 currency notes can be removed from circulation and so on.

Instead of liquid cash, Biometric Smart Card can be the medium of transaction. This would leave an indelible audit trail. Most scams can be eradicated. Elections can be made transparent. Are the anti-corruption advocating NGOs for total transparency and accountability?

What do others in this forum think?

Kris Dev
Independent Anti-corruption Activist
Chennai

--
"He/she should not do that which he/she knows to be wrong, and suffer the consequence whatever it may be, this is the key to the use of soul-force."

On 1 December 2012 09:56, M Baig <raaz.baig@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Reddy

Not everybody is now so convinced about honesty of Arvind Kejriwal and Manish Sisodia as you are.

Not everybody in IAC is convinced about the decision to form a political party - AAP.

Not everybody is satisfied with non-transparent and vague accounts which Arvind and Manish have given about  funds collected in name of IAC

Not everybody is convinced about how India Against Corruption "initiative" came about, called on Prime Minister and then some IAC "organisation" began corresponding with Delhi Police and MCD to book Jantar Mantar and Ram Lila grounds for Anna Hazare's fasts. These actions have caused great CRIMINAL LIABILITY for IAC which those persons cannot now run away from. Will Dr. Kiran Bedi former IPS take responsibility for these actions ?

Haven't you been seeing the photos in Arvind ki Junngle mein Mangal series on "RealAamAadmiParty" blog . How can you still say that they are honest and sober people ? IAC does not want such persons.

example
https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/iac/2012-11/msg00232.html

Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, MVReddy  wrote:

As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort against Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all these people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of AAP. But people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind Kesariwal. Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is really sad that  people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public this way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam associated people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to have synergistic effect. 

Hope sense will prevail in these people.

Writing with anguish.

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Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

Dear Reddy

Not everybody is now so convinced about honesty of Arvind Kejriwal and Manish Sisodia as you are.

Not everybody in IAC is convinced about the decision to form a political party - AAP.

Not everybody is satisfied with non-transparent and vague accounts which Arvind and Manish have given about  funds collected in name of IAC

Not everybody is convinced about how India Against Corruption "initiative" came about, called on Prime Minister and then some IAC "organisation" began corresponding with Delhi Police and MCD to book Jantar Mantar and Ram Lila grounds for Anna Hazare's fasts. These actions have caused great CRIMINAL LIABILITY for IAC which those persons cannot now run away from. Will Dr. Kiran Bedi former IPS take responsibility for these actions ?

Haven't you been seeing the photos in Arvind ki Junngle mein Mangal series on "RealAamAadmiParty" blog . How can you still say that they are honest and sober people ? IAC does not want such persons.

example
https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/iac/2012-11/msg00232.html

Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, MVReddy  wrote:

As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort against Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all these people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of AAP. But people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind Kesariwal. Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is really sad that  people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public this way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam associated people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to have synergistic effect. 

Hope sense will prevail in these people.

Writing with anguish.

Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort against Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all these people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of AAP. But people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind Kesariwal. Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is really sad that  people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public this way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam associated people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to have synergistic effect. 

Hope sense will prevail in these people.

Writing with anguish.

- MVR

[IAC++] Fwd: [IAC] Fwd: [RealAamAadmiParty] Team Arvind ki "Jungal mein Mangal" pictures Part 13

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Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

The document does not concern you. All documents regarding constitution of India Against Corruption are public documents and shall be relied on in future legal proceedings, if any.

Why don't you obtain the same from "Arvind & Co" ?

IAC also notes that you had refused to cooperate by uploading the member list of IAC Bundelkhand for the centralised database requested vide my email of 26.Oct.2012 addressed to you. As such also there is no obligation to provide you any documents.

Ajay Dixit

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:47 AM, CA Ujjawal Modi <ujjawal.modi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear admins,

Can I have a copy of permission given by IAC to Arvind & Co for use of brand IAC.

Ujjawal