[HumJanenge] Re: Uncovering of Truth - IE Story of Suggesting an Attempted Army Coup Needs Investigation

Dear Mr Devasahayam

I fully appreciate your desire to be unsubscribed from this group.

You will doubtless acknowledge that all your messages to this group
were faithfully transmitted to our members without any modifications
or censorship whatsoever. Considerable debate / discussion has taken
place on them.

Unfortunately, you did not disclose your personal interest in the
matter when you repeatedly raised Geb V.K.,Singh's DoB issue on this
group. This is not an activist group, neither is it an NGO group. We
are a group of the citizens, for the citizens, by the citizens to
discuss RTI (and.incidentally to tap the brains of the group owners
for free advice) You Sir, gave up your right to be called a citizen
the moment you associated with that gang of paid mercenaries who call
themselves by many names depending on which cause they are fighting
and who is paying them. Whether it is the NCPRI, or the Forum for
Judicial Accountability or whatever, they are all the same gang of
foreign financed haramis.

You never answered me when I asked who paid for the lawyers for your
PIL. Your silence is your answer.

Now enough Sir about You, let me tell you something about myself.

1) I have never taken even 1 naya paise from anyone to do social work.
There are 'n' number of people on this group who will vouch for that.
They will also vouch that I never ever do the wrong thing by anyone
and I am incorruptible.

2) I got Mr. Pramod Mahajan removed from the Union Cabinet for his
corrupt activities..

3) I was the person behind unraking the 1G scam. I'm sure you've never
heard about it, because I kept it out of the newspapers. Fines /
Penalties of over Rs. 5,000 Crores were levied on the offenders. I
didnt take / make a paise. In fact I spent my own money and time
because God commanded me to do so.

4) I was the person who stopped Digitalisation of Cable TV in India.
Now that the period of limitation has expired the Govt has revived the
scheme after 8 years. Once again I did so because God commanded me to
do so. I can list many more such instances if you want to know..

5) I have never lost any legal case where God directed me to
intervene. And there are 100's of such cases before some of the worst
Judges possible. . Believe me Sir, it is your loss if you proceed
down the path you are on. I have no doubt that you believe you are in
the right. If GOD IS ON YOUR SIDE. let us see what "Truth" emerges.

PS: I am unsubscribing you immediately..

With best wishes.
Sarbajit

On Apr 5, 2:24 pm, Devasahayam MG <m...@airtelmail.in> wrote:
> It is now becoming evident that characters like you are paid mercenaries
> masquerading as 'crusaders' to attack and belittle people who genuinely
> fight against corruption and the rot in governance or express opinion in
> support. I have been suspecting this for some time and now it is confirmed.
> It looks as if your paymasters are breathing down your neck and and there
> is panic.
>
> I do not want to be be part of this trash and would urge you to remove my
> email ID forthwith from this group. I do not want to receive one more mail
> else you will be violating my privacy.
>
> M.G.Devasahayam
> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The only TRUTH is the Mind-Boggling amounts of money to be made in
> > Arms Deals and the lobbying, bribes, kickbacks and commissions that
> > are demanded / routine / paid.
>
> > For every "winner" in this game there are at least 5 "losers: all with
> > their axes to grind and with their pet journos and PR agencies in
> > place.
>
> > Frankly, if I was to RESPECT you, I would demand that LIKE ME you
> > would draft/ file in person in the SC, argue in person in the SC, and
> > AVOID the media like crazy..
>
> > That you people are doing NONE OF THE ABOVE gives me "reason to
> > believe" that you are either puppets or corrupt (take your pick)
>
> > Sarbajit
>
> > On Apr 5, 12:57 pm, Devasahayam MG <m...@airtelmail.in> wrote:
> > > Yes. We know the source and the person and why he did it. This will be
> > > revealed at the appropriate time. Now please put an end to this charade
> > > till the truth comes out.
>
> > > M.G.Devasahayam
>
> > ___________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 1) The motive of the move was posturing by a Lt.General (or two) who
> > > > thought they should be CoAS instead of Bikram SIngh. It may or may not
> > > > be coincidental that they are considered to be aligned with V.K.Singh
> > > > (or vice-versa). That they are still not prepared to give up by
> > > > instigating this media / PIL tamasha to extend V.K.Singh's tenure is
> > > > what is TRULY worrying.
>
> > > > 2)  Your second question is so irrelevant and frankly puerile as to
> > > > need no reply. Nevertheless I shall answer it - LEAKS LEAKS and MORE
> > > > INSPIRED LEAKS. Delhi is a city of LEAKS. Journos are LAZY BUGGERS who
> > > > want everything for FREE.  Any half decent hack posted in Delhi can
> > > > live a decent life with all the fags, booze and occasional  girls/boys
> > > > simply by selling in 'raddi' all the PR crap that is home delivered to
> > > > them
>
> > > > PS: I am sure V.K.Singh's camp would love to know Shekhar Gupta's
> > sources.
>
> > > > Sarbajit
>
> > > > On 4/5/12, Mahesh Khera <mkkh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Sarbajit,
>
> > > > > Pl see my comments in red.
>
> > > > > The real questions are two :-
>
> > > > > (a) What was the motive of the move ?
>
> > > > > (b) How an operational move of the Army troops is known to only
> > Shekhar
> > > > > Gupta out side of the Army whereas such operational moves are
> > supposed
> > > > to be
> > > > > kept secret in the interest of the security of the country ?
>
> > > > > The answer to the first question has been adequately given by PM, RM,
> > > > MoD,
> > > > > Army and all the TV panelists yesterday.
>
> > > > > It is the second question which is the cause of real worry. The move
> > of
> > > > an
> > > > > Army unit is just known to only their parent HQs. No other unit and
> > HQ
> > > > even
> > > > > in the services knows about such move. This is amazing that Shekhar
> > Gupta
> > > > > has access to such secret information and that he has authentic
> > sources
> > > > who
> > > > > have told him that the political brass and bureaucrats were scared
> > and
> > > > that
> > > > > the police were hurriedly asked to put barricades to delay the move
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > unit and that the real intent was to create  a scare in the political
> > > > class
> > > > > and MoD.
>
> > > > > If he had such inputs then he like a loyal citizen first and a very
> > well
> > > > > known journalist should have sought a meeting with PM/RM and
> > conveyed to
> > > > > them rather than writing a story about it. In case PM/RM do not act
> > then
> > > > he
> > > > > has a full right to write this in the newspaper. Shekhar Gupta needs
> > to
> > > > > clarify this.
>
> > > > > I am suggesting that the members of HJ Gp should give their general
> > > > views as
> > > > > to whether there needs to be an independent inquiry. To my mind in
> > such
> > > > > sensitive national interests, no one should get away if it is found
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > story has been planted and not true. If true let the guilty be tried
> > out
> > > > as
> > > > > per the law. If planted then also the guilty be tried out as per law.
>
> > > > > My suggestion is that we should not link this story with any PIL
> > etc. The
> > > > > public needs to know the truth. Alternatively, Shekhar Gupta can
> > clarify
> > > > his
> > > > > position or give the names of the people to the PM/RM. When a
> > citizen who
> > > > > either harbours  terrorists or hides the information about them can
> > be
> > > > tried
> > > > > out in a court, why does Shekhar Gupta not come out with the names as
> > > > this
> > > > > is a serious matter no less than a potential treason. He has no
> > excuse
> > > > that
> > > > > he wants to protect the identity of the people who have told him
> > about
> > > > this.
> > > > > If those people are loyalists they should be rewarded and if traitors
> > > > they
> > > > > should be punished. Shekhar Gupta in either case would have done a
> > yeoman
> > > > > service to the nation by coming out clearer on this story.
>
> > > > > Some time, in the interest of the nation, one does not disclose every
> > > > thing
> > > > > to public but here Shekhar Gupta has chosen to go public and thus he
> > > > needs
> > > > > to come out with sources of the story for further investigation.
>
> > > > > With warm regards,
>
> > > > > Col Mahesh Khera
>
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2012 8:55 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Uncovering of Truth - IE Story of
> > Suggesting an
> > > > > Attempted Army Coup Needs Investigation
>
> > > > > Dear Rahul
>
> > > > > Has anybody, as yet, publicly disagreed or disproved what Shekhar
> > Gupta
> > > > > wrote ?.
>
> > > > > Yes, PM, RM, Def Secy, Army and all panelists on national TV have
> > trashed
> > > > > Shekhar Gupta's suggestion.
>
> > > > > 1) Did the army movements in question take place or not ? Yes. Who
> > > > ordered
> > > > > them ? Their authorized formation commanders,
> > > > > 2) Were the movements curtailed / countermanded ? The troops
> > movement is
> > > > > kept secret as per the prevailing operational rules. Who
> > countermanded
> > > > them
> > > > > ? Only people who need to know are kept informed.
> > > > > 3) Why does Mr Devashayam HIDE from us that he is one of the
> > > > > petitioners in the SC now asking for V.K.Singh to "carry on" as Army
> > > > > Chief ? Will he share with us the Petition that he has filed ? This
> > is
> > > > > irrelevant to IE story.
> > > > > 4) Lastly, it is evident that Mr Devashayam knows hardly anything
> > > > > about how matters are handled in SC. I OTH have been appearing there
> > > > > (albeit intermittently) for albeit 30 years now, and I can sense that
> > > > > V.K.Singh had to "withdraw" his petition because he was on legally
> > > > > weak ground. IMHO as an old soldier he "ran away to fight another
> > > > > day".Again this is irrelevant to Shekhar Gupta and IE story.
>
> > > > > We are all committed to the LARGER CAUSE,  its the "running dogs" we
> > > > > have to be careful of. True and highly appreciate this.
>
> > > > > Sarbajit
>
> > > > > On 4/5/12, Rahul Kumar <rahulk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Press and the journalists should own for what they write.
>
> > > > >> They should be brought under the laws for publishing insensitive and
> > > > >> thrash
> > > > >> information without confirmation and like any other citizen of India
> > > > >> charged
> > > > >> for inciting the public by giving wrong information.
>
> > > > >> If Rushdie's book is banned and Advani is charged for outrages
> > speech at
> > > > >> Ram
> > > > >> Mandir what is there to give immunity to this particular privileged
> > > > >> citizen
> > > > >> of India?
>
> > > > >> rgds
> > > > >> rahul
>
> > > > >>>________________________________
> > > > >>> From: Mahesh Khera <mkkh...@yahoo.com>
> > > > >>>To: Humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> > > > >>>Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2012 6:37 AM
> > > > >>>Subject: [HumJanenge] Uncovering of Truth - IE Story of Suggesting
> > an
> > > > >>> Attempted Army Coup Needs Investigation
>
> > > > >>>Dear Mr Sarbajit and friends,
>
> > > > >>>Shekhar Gupta has taken out a story in IE which suggests that there
> > > > might
> > > > >>> have been an intention of an Army coup in the country led by the
> > Army
> > > > >>> Chief. While, every one very rightly has trashed the story on all
> > > > >>> national
> > > > >>> TV channels, there is a need to conduct an impartial investigation
> > into
> > > > >>> this most diabolical news item unprecedented in the history of free
> > > > >>> India. The largest democracy of the world can not sit idle and do a
> > > > cover
> > > > >>> up just through a couple of debates on national TV channels.
> > Keeping
> > > > >>> quiet
> > > > >>> about it would be the greatest dis-service to the nation.
>
> > > > >>>If the story has any substance then under the relevant laws, the
> > guilty
> > > > >>> should be promptly punished in an exemplary way. If however, the
> > story
> > > > is
> > > > >>> just a concocted one then an exemplary action should be taken
> > against
> > > > the
> > > > >>> IE and Shekhar Gupta for sedition under the prevailing laws.
>
> > > > >>>Free press must be respected but
>
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