Saturday, December 18, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement

Dear Ravi

> Incidently, if I remember correct, it was Tiwari who has been going around,
> travelling and staying at IOC's expense, giving lectures to IOC officials
> how to 'handle' rti applications.

I think you are confusing ANT with IC(MM.Ansari).

>How naive of you! If writing an article or platform speeches were any
>criteria for inherant goodness

At the time (2004), RTI Act was not in place, and neither was ANT
("author is a former bureaucrat")

http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AT_A_2010_000683_M_47495.pdf
What is the specific problem you have with this order ? Ex-facie it
seems that ANT has ruled in your favour on both (?) counts.

Sarbajit
(PS: replying to posts like this don't count in your tally)

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarabjit
>
> How naive of you! If writing an article or platform speeches were any
> criteria for inherant goodness then can you criticie any politician ever. it
> is not what people say or write but what they do that counts. I have read
> many reports of the then CIC, kerala harpijg on teh goodness/greatness of
> RTI but I have petitioned personally and collectively to the Gov to remove
> him for his treason. I had also peitioned the Prez to remove wajahat after I
> had received his first order in one of my appeals.
>
> Regarding Tiwari, I have just participated in a hearing through video
> conference and I know that he is also a fraud.
> Incidently there were two appeals against SBI that I had submitted on the
> same day (7/7/2010) but I do not know how Tiwari had taken up only one for
> hearing on 22/11/2010.
>
> Incidently, if I remember correct, it was Tiwari who has been going around,
> travelling and staying at IOC's expense, giving lectures to IOC officials
> how to 'handle' rti applications.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ravi
>>
>> I think you are badly misinformed. Mr. Tiwari should be placed very
>> high on the list of heroes of RTI. It is Mr. Wajahat Habibullah who
>> should head the list of RTI "traitors" with Mr. Shailesh Gandhi coming
>> a very close second.
>>
>> For your information I am attaching an article of Mr Tiwari published
>> in 2004. Please read it.
>>
>> I concede that Mr Tiwari was not very popular among RTI activists.
>> This is because honest, forthright and upright people are not very
>> well like by the weaklings, fools and corrupt. There was a systematic
>> campaign against Mr Tiwari organised by NGOs like the NCPRI who had
>> the free run of Mr Habibullah's office for their misuse.
>>
>> After Mr Tiwari's brief innings as CIC, I am happy top observe that
>> the perception of him has changed. He has played a crucial role as
>> night watchman, and it is hoped that IC-SM carries on in setting RTI's
>> houses in order.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > A N Tiwariji? He is the first on the list of the traitors! The rti act
>> > has
>> > been put on ventilator by the info commissioners and judges.
>> >
>> > regards n bw
>> >
>> > ravi
>> >
>> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To all members
>> >>
>> >> I am grateful to this group's owner "PMK" for taking swift action
>> >> against disruptive members. I hope he continues without need for
>> >> further reminders / complaints.
>> >>
>> >> The need of the hour is unity among active concerned citizens.
>> >> Constantly focusing on personality based issues cannot lead to
>> >> anything meaningful or constructive. At the same time it is also
>> >> necessary to send a powerful message that people of India are not
>> >> fools and wont tolerate inefficiency, corruption and deceit by public
>> >> servants.
>> >>
>> >> We must strictly focus on the root causes of the problems that ail RTI
>> >> movement..Let me list the one I see as the biggest problem, (members
>> >> are urged to contribute their own to this list).
>> >>
>> >> 1) The prime problem is that RTI movement is riddled with Mir Jafars
>> >> (or traitors to RTI cause). These quislings who masquerade as
>> >> saints/leaders of RTI are exclusively former govt servants with dodgy
>> >> records/facing corruption charges who resigned or were forced out of
>> >> service. The list of these people is so long, and their command of
>> >> English language and misuse of RTI groups and media so good, that CIC
>> >> A.N.Tiwariji identified this group of 'haramis' as the biggest threat
>> >> to the RTI movement.
>> >>
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >
>> >
>
>

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Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Wajahat Habibullah is biggest traitor of RTI

Dear Ravi

I can assure you that L.K.Advani was blackmailed (as defined in Indian
Penal Code section 503 et.al) into recommending Shailesh Gandhi for
appointment as Central Information Commissioner.

Luckily for all of us, a similar attempt to blackmail him when CIC(WH)
resigned was thwarted by forces of good and WH had to stick on as a
stop-gap measure.

I am privy to crucial facts of the "injury" comprising the threat and
the other parties and monies involved. Mr Habibullah also knows what I
am referring to.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is news- SG blackmailing to become IC. In fact many activists had
> proposed his name amoung others and
> it was just by a coincidence- Karthikeyan IPS becoming unacceptable to Ldr
> of opposition!- that one of the proposed activists got the cahnce. But it is
> true that SG has proved to be another great disaster.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM, sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Guptaji
>>
>> 1) I do not "criticise" either WH or SG. A critic is a failure who
>> can't create.
>>
>> 2) These 2 people are the worst / most corrupt ICs we have had at the
>> CIC.
>> The purpose of this GROUP (not Sarbajit Roy) is to expose all the RTI
>> haramis, including Information Commissioners. BTW, I am not one of
>> those
>> people who voted / criticised IC(MM Ansari) as worst IC in the
>> RTI_India poll,
>> in fact I think he was a very efficient IC.
>>
>> 3) I wonder if you have read the slander that Arvind Kejriwal filed in
>> the
>> Delhi High Court about the ICs. Anyone can see that the whole purpose
>> of his
>> Writ is to cover up the corrupt fraud by which Shailesh Gandhi
>> blackmailed
>> his appointment as Central Info Commissioner. If Arvind or Shailesh
>> want to
>> debate / discuss this with me on any neutral public forum I would
>> welcome it,
>> My first witness would be Mr Habibullah who acted as the broker in
>> this deal..
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Dec 18, 11:52 am, "M.K. Gupta" <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> > Criticising Mr Wajahat and Mr Shailesh Gandhi is the favourite time pass
>> > for Mr
>> > Sarabjit Rao. He usually sing this song and now I have stopped reacting
>> > to this
>> > so u can also think about it to save your precious time and energy. In
>> > arguments, u cannot defeat Mr. Sarabjit as he is an expert in many arts.
>>
>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement

I FULLY TO TO RAVINDRAN
I can only say that ANT is purely pro-Public Authority

Bimal Khemani
RTI activist
ALIGARH-202001
INDIA
Mob:935-972-4625


--- On Sun, 19/12/10, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 19 December, 2010, 7:09 AM

Dear Sarabjit
 
How naive of you! If writing an article or platform speeches were any criteria for inherant goodness then can you criticie any politician ever. it is not what people say or write but what they do that counts. I have read many reports of the then CIC, kerala harpijg on teh goodness/greatness of RTI but I have petitioned personally and collectively to the Gov to remove him for his treason. I had also peitioned the Prez to remove wajahat after I had received his first order in one of my appeals.
 
Regarding Tiwari, I have just participated in a hearing through video conference and I know that he is also a fraud.
Incidently there were two appeals against SBI that I had submitted on the same day (7/7/2010) but I do not know how Tiwari had taken up only one for hearing on 22/11/2010.
 
Incidently, if I remember correct, it was Tiwari who has been going around, travelling and staying at IOC's expense, giving lectures to IOC officials how to 'handle' rti applications.
 
regards n bw
 
ravi
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ravi

I think you are badly misinformed. Mr. Tiwari should be placed very
high on the list of heroes of RTI. It is Mr. Wajahat Habibullah who
should head the list of RTI "traitors" with Mr. Shailesh Gandhi coming
a very close second.

For your information I am attaching an article of Mr Tiwari published
in 2004. Please read it.

I concede that Mr Tiwari was not very popular among RTI activists.
This is because honest, forthright and upright people are not very
well like by the weaklings, fools and corrupt. There was a systematic
campaign against Mr Tiwari organised by NGOs like the NCPRI who had
the free run of Mr Habibullah's office for their misuse.

After Mr Tiwari's brief innings as CIC, I am happy top observe that
the perception of him has changed. He has played a crucial role as
night watchman, and it is hoped that IC-SM carries on in setting RTI's
houses in order.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
> A N Tiwariji? He is the first on the list of the traitors! The rti act has
> been put on ventilator by the info commissioners and judges.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> To all members
>>
>> I am grateful to this group's owner "PMK" for taking swift action
>> against disruptive members. I hope he continues without need for
>> further reminders / complaints.
>>
>> The need of the hour is unity among active concerned citizens.
>> Constantly focusing on personality based issues cannot lead to
>> anything meaningful or constructive. At the same time it is also
>> necessary to send a powerful message that people of India are not
>> fools and wont tolerate inefficiency, corruption and deceit by public
>> servants.
>>
>> We must strictly focus on the root causes of the problems that ail RTI
>> movement..Let me list  the one I see as the biggest problem, (members
>> are urged to contribute their own to this list).
>>
>> 1) The prime problem is that RTI movement is riddled with Mir Jafars
>> (or traitors to RTI cause). These quislings who masquerade as
>> saints/leaders of RTI are exclusively former govt servants with dodgy
>> records/facing corruption charges who resigned or were forced out of
>> service. The list of these people is so long, and their command of
>> English language and misuse of RTI groups and media so good, that CIC
>> A.N.Tiwariji identified this group of 'haramis' as the biggest threat
>> to the RTI movement.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>
>


Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Wajahat Habibullah is biggest traitor of RTI

Dear Nilesh

Sometimes I feel as though I am a lion tamer in a cage of lions.
(Hence the intimidating persona).

The only problems is that the lions (for the most part) behave like
jackals. (I wish we had more lions roaring away here).

Sarbajit

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 2:37 AM, nilesh suchdev
<nilesh.suchdev@gmail.com> wrote:
> i really appreciate your taking out time to express yourself.
> for once, i fail to not agree with you...
>
> i wish your tone in your regular posts was less threatening, or lets say
> thwarting, though...
>

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[HumJanenge] all 4 news items of atrocities on whistle blower for exposing Rs. 200 cr scam in Petroleum Ministry

Noted below please find a saga of  Torture , victimization , harassment  of a RTI activist and whistle blower on RS. 200 cr. scam of a adulteration marker by Minister& Ministry of Petroleum & Natural gas .

The salient feature of the scam is that it is proved by CBI after an inquiry of more then 2 years,still no action has been taken against guilty , culprits but those who blew the whistle have been sacked from job and humiliated.Watch the video for more details 



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Gist of the case

Myself and my colleague Ashok singh were employed with HPCL and we were Oil sector officers association's Treasurer and President respectively during May 2008 we were advised by our members that one adulteration marker launched by Ministry of Petroleum and oil companies has serious irregularities in procurement , specification and implementation. An advocate collected all information through RTI and we filed a complaint before Regional director CBI Mumbai .In retaliation HPCL instantly within 4 days suspended Ashok framing in some misappropriation charges against him and unleashed a reign of terror against me by issuing a chargesheet and show cause, they removed my assistance , stopped perquisites, deducted wages ,made me sit under stairs case and finally evicted me from company accommodation

We approached CVC 3 times in june, july& August 2008 instead giving us any protection they gave an order in Nov. 08 that " we can not be given any job related protection and shall be treated as plain complainant', a PIL basis our CBI complaint was filed in june 08 and Hon. Mumbai high court in their judgment in oct 2008 ordered CBI enquiry and by Vigilance of Ministry of Petroleum . CBI finally filed a PE in April 2009 against oil company officials, marker suppliers Authentix thier Indian agents SGS and then Secretary Petroleum and our complaint was vindicated.CNN-IBN in their Breaking news on 21st sept 2009 exposed the whole scam and confirmed that the marker supplier Authentix/SGS were a black listed company abroad and marker purchased @ Rs. 13000/per ltr without ascertaining the product specification etc.This marker was also carcinogenic( may cause cancer in human being).

HPCL suspended me on the charge of instigating officers , from their services in Jan 09 ,while oil sector officers went on strike (HPCL was the only company which was not on strike), and finally dismissed us in March 2009 by framing both of us in a case prior to our CBI complaint while we had protested against an irregular appointment of CEO by then chairman in a JV of HPCL namely HINCOL., our statuary appeal was rejected in oct 2009 by HPCL and confirmed removal from service, my appeals to President of India have been handed over to HPCL only against whom I am fighting this battle.I have now filed my case before Hon'ble mumbai High court and awaiting justice. CBI complaint has been established by CBI and they have confirmed it to Ministry in turn Ministry has issued advisory to Oil PSU chairmen.


This case is a glaring example that to what extent whistle blowers can be tortured , humiliated for raising voice against rampant corruption and taught a lesson by giving an exemplary punishment by mighty corporation and Ministry , I dont know when justice will be delivered and will it account for miseries , hardships ,suffered in last 27 months by us and our families .


















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RP Srivastava, a senior officer with HPCL was victimized for bringing the rampant corruption in oil companies in the name of adulteration racket. TV9 exclsuive report
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Re: [rti4empowerment] PENDENCY AT CIC

Dear Weds and all
Thanks for your comments.
In Hindu dharma we believe in Karam theory.
They are reaping the benefits, as per their previous karma.
So no body is to be blamed
Dr JN Sharma


On 12/19/10, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear Raja Bunch,
>
> Dwell into these,
>
> 1. Preface of The Constitution of India declares that:-
> Constitution is a living document, an instrument which makes the government
> system work.
> 2. The Constitution of India, in its Preamble, states, "WE, THE PEOPLE OF
> INDIA, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a 1[SOVEREIGN
> SOCIALIST
> SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC] and to secure to all its citizens:
> JUSTICE, social, economic and political;
> LIBERTY of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship;
> EQUALITY of status and of opportunity; and to promote among them all
> FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual and the 2[unity and
> integrity
> of the Nation];
> IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twentysixth day of November, 1949, do
> HEREBY
> ADOPT, ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS CONSTITUTION.
>
> 3. In Democracy, the Government is defined as A GOVERNMENT BY A PEOPLE; OF
> THE
> PEOPLE & FOR THE PEOPLE.
>
> 4. People are Supreme & not the Government in a Democracy, as the Government
> is
> installed by the people to govern themselves.
>
> 5. The Government is formed by the Elected Representatives of People having
> support of majority of like political ideology holders, for in a Democracy
> all
> the people cannot rule all the people. Hence, this system.
>
> 6. The body of elected representatives form Parliament (Meaning platform to
> speak) for the people; as all the people cannot speak for all the people.
> "Parlare" meaning to speak.
>
> 7. The Parliament consists of two houses a. The House of People b. Council
> of
> states.
>
> 8. The House of People consists of elected representatives of People.
>
> 9. The Council of states consists of secondary representatives of people
> i.e.
> representatives of peoples' representatives.
>
> 10. Parliament enacts laws which is construed & deemed as De Facto reflects
> the
> will of People.
>
> 11. All functionaries of the three branches of Governance i.e. LEGISLATURE,
> JUDICIARY & THE EXECUTIVE, withot exception, otherwise known as "State" as
> defined in Art. 12 of Constitution of India, are public servants ,
> subservient &
> accountable to people. So, are Information Commissioners. Hence, People can
> ask
> them why a task is not done in a particular manner or not.13. From this
> you
> would agree that the People of India have installed the Constitution of
> India &
> the Government therewithin to themselves & to govern them. Hence, in
> Democracy,
> the Government is defined as A GOVERNMENT BY A PEOPLE; OF THE PEOPLE & FOR
> THE
> PEOPLE.
>
> 14. Hence, the Government & all its functionaries are accountable &
> answerable to the People of India. Hence, the People of India have a right
> to
> question the Government that they have installed within the framework of the
> Constitution on its acts & omissions. This is otherwise known as the Right
> to
> Information.
>
> 15. This Right to Information of the People of India is inalienable,
> axiomatic, fundamental as well as human right . This has beenreaffirmed by
> the
> Supreme Court of India as a fundamental right forming a facet of Art. 19
> (1)(a)
> of the Constitution of India. Read 6 above.
>
> 16. To access, seek, receive & impart information is a Human Right
> (HR),as
> per Article 19 of The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights
> (ICCPR) that was adopted by the General Assembly of The United Nations on
> the
> 16th December 1966, as cardinal principles of Human Right, embodied in The
> Protection of Human Rights Act 1993 section 2(d) & (f) forming a facet of
> Art.
> 21 Part III, Fundamental Right (FR) i.e. Right to life & Liberty, of the
> Constitution of India.
> 17. Freedom of Information lies at the root of the rights discourse.
> Failure
> of the State to provide access to information or State suppression of
> information can lead to the most egregious forms of human rights violations.
> The
> Right to Information (RTI) is fundamental to the realisation of rights as
> well
> as effective democracy, which requires informed participation by all.
> Lot can be written. Please spare time to view atachment
>
> Regards,
> WEDS
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in>
> To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 18 December, 2010 20:19:59
> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] PENDENCY AT CIC
>
>
> Bhaskar,vacancies must be filled.Let the cases be disbursed as fast as
> possible.Justice delayed it justice denied.Other states should also fill.
> Rgds
> Bunch
>
> --- On Sat, 18/12/10, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] PENDENCY AT CIC
>>To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
>>Date: Saturday, 18 December, 2010, 10:43 AM
>>
>>
>>Dear All,
>>There is no necessary to increase Informatuion Ciommissioners but let them
>>increse disposals, which is possible.
>>Yours in RTI service
>>Bhaskar
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>
>>Mr. Rakesh Gupta, RTI activist has received the following information from
>> the
>>CIC on the pendency of cases in reply to his RTI application.
>>>Figures mentioned herein speak for themselves about the dire need to
>>> increase
>>>the strength of Information Commissioners at CIC.
>>>
>>>STATUS OF PENDING CASES AT CIC
>>
>>S. No.
>>
>>
>>1 Information Commissioner
>> (Shri/Ms)
>>
>>2 6 months to one year
>>3 Over 12 months
>>
>>4 Total
>>(column 3 & 4)
>>
>>5 Up to 3 months
>>
>>
>>6 3-6 months
>>
>>
>>7 Grand Total
>>
>>
>>8
>>1. A. N. Tiwari 90 27 117 790 295 1202
>>2. Shailesh Gandhi 0 03 03 738 49 787
>>(Col6&7)
>>3. AnnapurnaDixit 02 02 04 1000 38 1040(Col.4,6,7)
>>4. Dr. M A Ansari 0 5 05 443 44 487
>>(Col. 6&7)
>>5. M L Sharma 0 6 06 1314 3134 4448
>>(col. 6&7)
>>6. Satyanand Mishra 234 07 341 536 341 1111
>>(col 3, 5&6)
>>7. Sushma Singh 23 23 46 595 84 702
>>(col (3,5&6)
>>8. Deepak Sandhu 230 09 239 1200 450 1880
>>(col.3,5&6)
>>9. Wajahat Habibullah 327 270 597 879 535 2011
>>Total pendencyi against col. 3,4,6&7)
>>10. Total 13,668
>>
>>1. Total pending cases – 13,668
>>2. Vacancies of ICs04 – One more shall occur after the
>>retirement of Shri A N Tiwari.
>>
>>3. Cases pending less than
>>3 months - 54.84%
>>6 months - 91.20%
>>3-6 months - 36.36%
>>Over 6 months- - 8.80%
>>6-12 months - 6.61% -
>> Over 12 months - 2.19%
>>
>>Notes-
>>1. Cases of Shri Wajahat Habibullah are yet to be distributed.
>>2. Cases of Dr. M A Ansari have been transferred to others ICs.
>>3. Cases of Shri A. N. Tiwari will be transferred to others after his
>>
>>retirement.
>>
>>
>>(Though utmost care has been exercised in putting the figures, the author
>> is not
>>responsible for any inadvertent mistakes and the figures supplied by the
>> CIC to
>>Mr. Rakesh Gupta shall be treated as final. Totals have been given in the
>> same
>>format as has been informed by Mr. Rakesh Gupta)
>>
>
>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Unification advisory

The least one can do is participate and contribute your might to the cause.
 
regards n bw
 
ravi

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:29 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ravi

It is extremely unlikely that we share views. For instance I have no
war to wage on non-issues like injustice or judicial reform.

What am I supposed to do with the information that there is a
convention on judicial reforms at Mumbai ?

Sarbajit

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarabjit
>
> You are very much right and I share you apprehensions and views. But our war
> on injustice shall continue whether on rti front, judicial reforms front or
> any other front. Incidently there is a convention on judicial reforms at
> Mumbai on 22/23 jan.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi

Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement

There is nothing for the govts to do except to refrain from using extraneous influences if any on the ICs. It is the ICs and judges who have killed the law. If only the ICs had implemented sec 20 correctly you would have seen how the public authorities would have got their acts together in responding timely and correctly to applicants.
 
regards n bw
ravi
 

 
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:
In every corner of the country,RTI Activists nrrd to take a copy of
CIC circular and seek from the HODs/PIOs reasons for not compling with
the CIC directives  and seek most immediate action,in letterand
spirit.
Specifically the response must cover lack of
technology/procedures/trained personnel/budgetry
allocation/leadership/time resourse.
There's adequate response,infact available for all the factors to
counter the lethargy/will power.
Shockingly the Central/State Government who MUST have set up
monitoring mechanism and provided adequate resourses for
result-oriented approach,in time-bound manner have miserably failed to
achieve the (laudable) objective.Mere lip sympathy and narration of
worthless statistics are touted as achievements and lame duck excuses
are reiterated  to cover up for gross and unpardonable failure.
Petitions obtained from hundreds and thousands for effective
implementation of sec 4 of the Act(as also concomitant CIC circular)
would put constant pressure on the  Establishment,specially if bad
press for negligence could be managed for failure to attend to
Statatutory mandates/obligations.
We also need to think in terms of special issues of all important
print periodicals on implementation of RTI Act,2005.The media also
needs to be effectively roped in,in this noble venture.Og course
without any angle of publicity or internal wranglings amongst RTI
Groups/NGOs,as it might only weaken the common cause.
I have been repeatedly praying that our posts be confined only to
professional issues,using graceful language alone.We gain nothing in
short/long run in internal quiblings and in name-calling etc.The
respect of the movement itself is lost,or at least diminished that
way.
Requesting the esteemed members to comment upon the issues raised.
spm
IPS DGP retd
BE(Hons) MBA PhD
919841282324
PS By chance if any member has any RTI or non-RTI related issue(even
personal one) to be discussed with me seperately ,for whatever
reason,one could do so on 24*7 basis,without any hitch,as in 40 years
of self-less public service I've had privilege and honour to provide
succour to innumerable people


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On 12/15/10, K N Jagadesh kumar <jkgroup999@gmail.com> wrote:
> i completly agree with you, but how to start?
> K N Jagadesh kumar
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr.M.K.Gupta,
>>
>> I would like to share similar incidence to make
>> you understand sensitivity in the governance. As convener of election
>> watch
>> A.P,and National coordinator Citizen for Verifiability, transparency and
>> accountability(VETA), after 2009 election watch A.P in July, I have filed
>> a PILL in supreme court questioning the accountability of EVMs in the
>> elections *in response to my** RTI application with election
>> commission(E.C)*. After getting a positive order in supreme court from
>> K.G.Balakrishnan,directing me and the team supporting the cause to get
>> clarification with the E.C,today it has became a national debate after one
>> and half years of fight and we are yet to get the answers.
>>                             In between we were humiliated several times by
>> the Election commission, before we could establish the fact.Along with a
>> research paper and a video recording of how our team exposed
>> the possibilities of EVM from E.C are getting tampered are displayed it in
>> our website www.indianevm.com.While our team is acting like a whistle
>> blower
>> to make the EVM tamper proof, instead of appreciating our efforts
>> E.C/police  took us to the task by filing criminal cases on our technical
>> experts on theft case of EVM from Bombay storage and arrested , where as
>> internationally reputed electronic society in US gave award in
>> appreciation
>> of the efforts made in the largest democracy to make the EVM accountable.
>>   To day whole nation along with the E.C realized the impotence of the
>> issues we raised on EVMs for a free and fare elections. Know E.C is forced
>> to take up the issue after conducting an all party meet and inviting
>> suggestions to add a paper trail to the existing EVM.
>>
>>                               *I feel this is how the systems in India are
>> working with lot of non democratic attitudes,I thing we are fighting with
>> this type of attitudes to get reforms in electoral processes first and
>> secondly with  the real issue of EVMs accountability.*This is how we have
>> taken more than one and half year time to sensitize the election
>> commission
>> to accept them to take up the subject on EVMs. When you look in to the
>> whole
>> story of how few activists from the different fields including
>> professionals from civil
>> society, technical experts, psephologist,legal experts, politicians and
>> from several other fields along with the NRIs international reputed
>> technical experts and approaching the E.C with lot of correspondence on
>> one
>> side and *facing the acid tests from the E.C/police, by getting arrest of
>> Hari Prasad in Bombay (our technical expert) and our counter parts as
>> international experts supporting the cause Prof. Alex from U.S and Mrs
>> Rope
>> from Germany getting detention at the Delhi airport for 18 hours, where in
>> several investigating agencies like RAW,SEBI, Interpol have interrogated
>> us,
>> all our phones where taped for several months*.Later they realized and now
>> inviting us to give suggestions to improvise the systems. On my repeated
>> questioning about the security measures and records maintained by the
>> E.C,they failed to give me the information but last week news came in the
>> media about missing of four thousand EVMs in A.P, so far no one is
>> arrested
>> why? How do you believe the elections in A.P are free and fare?
>>                                 In addition to this, today all the
>> political parties including the ruling parties raised this issue both in
>> the parliament and with E.C.This it self shows the existing
>> non sensitive nature of the systems in this country.While
>> in Germany,Holland, Ireland and few other countries they have banned the
>> use of EVMs after getting simple resistance from the activists .In India
>> we
>> are yet to fight with the real issue on EVMs as we got an invitation from
>> the E.C to give suggestions on 23rd Dec ,weather to go by paper trail to
>> EVM
>> or to go by paper ballot.Hope we are nearing to achieve our goal of making
>> the electoral system fool proof.
>>
>> WHY I AM TRYING TO SAY ALL THIS TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE NON
>> SENSITIVITY IN THE SYSTEMS,so to over come this we need to fight with
>> understanding, commitment, proper planning and sharing of
>> experiences.*Please
>> find my article in **wall-street journal on  "RTI activists under
>> threat"attached.After seeing few cases of attacks on RTI activists in A.P&
>> across the country,what I understand is there are few people in the name
>> of
>> RTI activists instead of contributing to correct the systems they are
>> vectiuos in asking information and few others trying to settle down the
>> scores,by asking irrelevant and unreasonable questions with  the PIOs.We
>> should understand that PIOs are not the ultimate culprits in this
>> existing corrupt  systems in public authorities, there are several factors
>> which are influencing non availability of information and reasons for
>> these attacks on RTI activists should be analysed in depth. Try
>> to strengthen all those areas in the public authorities to provide
>> information readily to an RTI applicant first. Once again  I suggest you
>> to
>> concentrate on sec 41b updating of records which ultimately solve several
>> RTI issues.*
>> *
>> *
>> *What do you do with the list? It would only scare activist like
>> Rajeshwar. In  military services only success stories of some solders
>> would be taken as inspiration to motivate beginners entering in to the
>> field, but not of every solder who died in the war.Hope you take
>> it positively.*
>>
>> V.V.RAO
>> National coordinator VETA
>> 09849064309
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>
>>>  After raking a sensitive issue, Mr Rajeshwar goes into hibernation for
>>> many days. This is being dealt with insensitivity and casually by Mr.
>>> Rao.
>>> He should either disclose the list or admit that no such list is in his
>>> possession.
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent:* Tue, 14 December, 2010 8:45:08 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Its good to see you all giving your reactions on implementation of RTI.
>>> As
>>> a convener of a active Civil society organisation Social audit council on
>>> information Right (SACIR)  from Hyderabad, A.P at the national level I
>>> would
>>> be happy to share my view .After conducting independent RTI
>>> implementation
>>> review meetings for the past five years  with several organisations from
>>> the
>>> village level up to the city level and with all stake holders of RTI
>>> act, particularly by organizing two mass awareness campaigns at the state
>>> level in all districts of A.P, I feel every activist should concentrate
>>> on
>>> up dating the records under section 41(b) of RTI act in every public
>>> authority.
>>>                            Section 41b is the heart of the RTI act2005
>>> which will up date the information with insides of every public authority
>>> and readily kept open to all.If it is achieved, the reason for our agony
>>> being non accountability and corruption in governance at different
>>> levels can be addressed. Let us prepare our selves to strengthen the
>>> systems
>>> so as to get good governance.Let us start at some point to make success
>>> stories by filing applications questioning whether public authorities
>>> are maintaining the 17 manual columns under  the section 41b.With out
>>> putting first step we can not travel a long way to achieve our goals.So
>>> let
>>> us all start the campaign from individual level by filing applications
>>> asking about section 41b.
>>>                             AP information commission have successfully
>>> produced four annual reports so far which is possible with the efforts
>>> from civil society activists working for the last five
>>> years constantly.Unless you ask nothing is available.
>>>
>>> V.V.RAO
>>> Convener SACIR
>>> 09849064309
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 7:08 PM, bimal khemani <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Dear Rajeswar
>>>> I requested to share the list with me.
>>>> If it is true that why you do not want to share it
>>>>
>>>> *Bimal Khemani*
>>>> *RTI activist*
>>>> *ALIGARH-202001*
>>>> *INDIA*
>>>> *Mob:935-972-4625*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Sun, 12/12/10, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement
>>>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Sunday, 12 December, 2010, 10:06 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Many on this or other forums have sought this info. Please post it to
>>>> these groups or to me on my personal id.
>>>>
>>>> regards n bw
>>>>
>>>> ravi
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:48 PM, young cyber indians <
>>>> cyberyouth@tightmail.com<http://in.mc951.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cyberyouth@tightmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Friends
>>>>
>>>> Many of National RTI Forum working committee members are on list of
>>>> suspected maoist / terrorist affiliated RTI activists whose phone and
>>>> internet were tapped which was obtained by AID under RTI. If any
>>>> member wants the list of such persons they can send me email.
>>>>
>>>> K Rajeshwar Rao.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Sarbajit Roy
>>>> <sroy.mb@gmail.com<http://in.mc951.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sroy.mb@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Dear Mr. Varkey
>>>> >
>>>> > Your answer is quite evidently contained within your question. So who
>>>> > am I to disagree with the view of any Hon'ble Court?
>>>> >
>>>> > On a larger note, there are many unanswered questions about the
>>>> bonafides
>>>> > of these 2 Thakurs and the self-serving NGOs they have set up. for
>>>> instance
>>>> > the so-called nationl RTI forum is set up as a trust with only
>>>> themselves as
>>>> > Trustees. The office-bearers are packed with persons belonging to
>>>> certain
>>>> > communities etc etc.. There are many unanswered questions about
>>>> > Dr Nutan Thakur circulated on other RTI groups which she had failed to
>>>> > answer comprehensively.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sarbajit
>>>> >
>>>> > On 12/9/10, Baby Varkey
>>>> > <babyjohn.varkey@gmail.com<http://in.mc951.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=babyjohn.varkey@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> Dear Mr Sarbajit Roy
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On another RTI group an IPS officer (Amitav Thakur) and his wife from
>>>> >> National RTI forum have  written that Lucknow High Court has
>>>> >> dismissed
>>>> their
>>>> >> writ petition seeking an enquiry into corrupt judges of UP which
>>>> Hon'ble
>>>> >> Supreme Court had commented adversely upon. It appears that
>>>> >> Hon'ble Lucknow bench characterised the petitioner Nutan Thakur as
>>>> cheap
>>>> >> publicity seekers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Your valued comments please
>>>> >>
>>>> >> B. Varkey (Adv.)
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> K N Jagadesh Kumar
> 9845500932
> jkgroup999@gmail.com
>

Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement

Dear Dr Sharma
 
Wajahat would not have delivered the judgement that he delivered in agarwal's case without the blessing of his godmother. With the kind of orders he had been delivering even in very very minor case (for example in my case against the national consumer disputes redressal commission!), one just cannot attibute any sense of logic or fairness to him. Even coming to the agarwal case, do you think that it is such a great case as far as the RTI Act is itself is concerned. At the cost fo reptition, even a fifith standard student after reading the RTI act would have said the same thing but much more fairly than wajahat. And now that the letter of KGB to the PM is out we know that what KGB did is outright treason for which he should have been impeached instead of being given another luxurious office!
 
regards n bw
 
ravi 

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
DEAR RAVI TO COMMENT
           My comment for Mr. Wazahat  are that he can not be a
traitor , though he never did any help to me personally, but he took
up the case of Subhash Agarwal against  SC / HC Judges.
         As regards appointment  as CCIC OR CIC from amongst the
bureaucrats & Judges, I agree with Ravi, that  majority of them will
never deliver the goods in favour of common man using RTI.
          Dr JN Sharma

On 12/15/10, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Ravi
>
> I think you are badly misinformed. Mr. Tiwari should be placed very
> high on the list of heroes of RTI. It is Mr. Wajahat Habibullah who
> should head the list of RTI "traitors" with Mr. Shailesh Gandhi coming
> a very close second.
>
> For your information I am attaching an article of Mr Tiwari published
> in 2004. Please read it.
>
> I concede that Mr Tiwari was not very popular among RTI activists.
> This is because honest, forthright and upright people are not very
> well like by the weaklings, fools and corrupt. There was a systematic
> campaign against Mr Tiwari organised by NGOs like the NCPRI who had
> the free run of Mr Habibullah's office for their misuse.
>
> After Mr Tiwari's brief innings as CIC, I am happy top observe that
> the perception of him has changed. He has played a crucial role as
> night watchman, and it is hoped that IC-SM carries on in setting RTI's
> houses in order.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> A N Tiwariji? He is the first on the list of the traitors! The rti act has
>> been put on ventilator by the info commissioners and judges.
>>
>> regards n bw
>>
>> ravi
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> To all members
>>>
>>> I am grateful to this group's owner "PMK" for taking swift action
>>> against disruptive members. I hope he continues without need for
>>> further reminders / complaints.
>>>
>>> The need of the hour is unity among active concerned citizens.
>>> Constantly focusing on personality based issues cannot lead to
>>> anything meaningful or constructive. At the same time it is also
>>> necessary to send a powerful message that people of India are not
>>> fools and wont tolerate inefficiency, corruption and deceit by public
>>> servants.
>>>
>>> We must strictly focus on the root causes of the problems that ail RTI
>>> movement..Let me list  the one I see as the biggest problem, (members
>>> are urged to contribute their own to this list).
>>>
>>> 1) The prime problem is that RTI movement is riddled with Mir Jafars
>>> (or traitors to RTI cause). These quislings who masquerade as
>>> saints/leaders of RTI are exclusively former govt servants with dodgy
>>> records/facing corruption charges who resigned or were forced out of
>>> service. The list of these people is so long, and their command of
>>> English language and misuse of RTI groups and media so good, that CIC
>>> A.N.Tiwariji identified this group of 'haramis' as the biggest threat
>>> to the RTI movement.
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement

Dear Sarabjit
 
How naive of you! If writing an article or platform speeches were any criteria for inherant goodness then can you criticie any politician ever. it is not what people say or write but what they do that counts. I have read many reports of the then CIC, kerala harpijg on teh goodness/greatness of RTI but I have petitioned personally and collectively to the Gov to remove him for his treason. I had also peitioned the Prez to remove wajahat after I had received his first order in one of my appeals.
 
Regarding Tiwari, I have just participated in a hearing through video conference and I know that he is also a fraud.
Incidently there were two appeals against SBI that I had submitted on the same day (7/7/2010) but I do not know how Tiwari had taken up only one for hearing on 22/11/2010.
 
Incidently, if I remember correct, it was Tiwari who has been going around, travelling and staying at IOC's expense, giving lectures to IOC officials how to 'handle' rti applications.
 
regards n bw
 
ravi
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ravi

I think you are badly misinformed. Mr. Tiwari should be placed very
high on the list of heroes of RTI. It is Mr. Wajahat Habibullah who
should head the list of RTI "traitors" with Mr. Shailesh Gandhi coming
a very close second.

For your information I am attaching an article of Mr Tiwari published
in 2004. Please read it.

I concede that Mr Tiwari was not very popular among RTI activists.
This is because honest, forthright and upright people are not very
well like by the weaklings, fools and corrupt. There was a systematic
campaign against Mr Tiwari organised by NGOs like the NCPRI who had
the free run of Mr Habibullah's office for their misuse.

After Mr Tiwari's brief innings as CIC, I am happy top observe that
the perception of him has changed. He has played a crucial role as
night watchman, and it is hoped that IC-SM carries on in setting RTI's
houses in order.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
> A N Tiwariji? He is the first on the list of the traitors! The rti act has
> been put on ventilator by the info commissioners and judges.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> To all members
>>
>> I am grateful to this group's owner "PMK" for taking swift action
>> against disruptive members. I hope he continues without need for
>> further reminders / complaints.
>>
>> The need of the hour is unity among active concerned citizens.
>> Constantly focusing on personality based issues cannot lead to
>> anything meaningful or constructive. At the same time it is also
>> necessary to send a powerful message that people of India are not
>> fools and wont tolerate inefficiency, corruption and deceit by public
>> servants.
>>
>> We must strictly focus on the root causes of the problems that ail RTI
>> movement..Let me list  the one I see as the biggest problem, (members
>> are urged to contribute their own to this list).
>>
>> 1) The prime problem is that RTI movement is riddled with Mir Jafars
>> (or traitors to RTI cause). These quislings who masquerade as
>> saints/leaders of RTI are exclusively former govt servants with dodgy
>> records/facing corruption charges who resigned or were forced out of
>> service. The list of these people is so long, and their command of
>> English language and misuse of RTI groups and media so good, that CIC
>> A.N.Tiwariji identified this group of 'haramis' as the biggest threat
>> to the RTI movement.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Wajahat Habibullah is biggest traitor of RTI

This is news- SG blackmailing to become IC. In fact many activists had proposed his name amoung others and
it was just by a coincidence- Karthikeyan IPS becoming unacceptable to Ldr of opposition!- that one of the proposed activists got the cahnce. But it is true that SG has proved to be another great disaster.
 
regards n bw
 
ravi
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM, sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Guptaji

1) I do not "criticise" either WH or SG. A critic is a failure who
can't create.

2) These 2 people are the worst / most corrupt ICs we have had at the
CIC.
The purpose of this GROUP (not Sarbajit Roy) is to expose all the RTI
haramis, including Information Commissioners. BTW, I am not one of
those
people who voted / criticised IC(MM Ansari) as worst IC in the
RTI_India poll,
in fact I think he was a very efficient IC.

3) I wonder if you have read the slander that Arvind Kejriwal filed in
the
Delhi High Court about the ICs. Anyone can see that the whole purpose
of his
Writ is to cover up the corrupt fraud by which Shailesh Gandhi
blackmailed
his appointment as Central Info Commissioner. If Arvind or Shailesh
want to
debate / discuss this with me on any neutral public forum I would
welcome it,
My first witness would be Mr Habibullah who acted as the broker in
this deal..

Sarbajit

On Dec 18, 11:52 am, "M.K. Gupta" <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Criticising Mr Wajahat and Mr Shailesh Gandhi is the favourite time pass for Mr
> Sarabjit Rao.  He usually sing this song and now I have stopped reacting to this
> so u can also think about it to save your precious time and energy.  In
> arguments, u cannot defeat Mr. Sarabjit as he is an expert in many arts.


Re: [rti4empowerment] PENDENCY AT CIC

Dear Raja Bunch,
 
Dwell into these,
 

1.    Preface of The Constitution of India declares that:-

Constitution is a living document, an instrument which makes the government system work.

2.    The Constitution of India, in its Preamble, states, "WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a 1[SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC] and to secure to all its citizens:

JUSTICE, social, economic and political;

LIBERTY of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship;

EQUALITY of status and of opportunity; and to promote among them all

FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual and the 2[unity and integrity of the Nation];

IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twentysixth day of November, 1949, do HEREBY ADOPT, ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS CONSTITUTION.

 

3. In Democracy, the Government is defined as A GOVERNMENT BY A PEOPLE; OF THE PEOPLE & FOR THE PEOPLE.

 

4. People are Supreme & not the Government in a Democracy, as the Government is installed by the people to govern themselves.

 

5. The Government is formed by the Elected Representatives of People having support of majority of like political ideology holders, for in a Democracy all the people cannot rule all the people. Hence, this system.

 

6. The body of elected representatives form Parliament (Meaning platform to speak) for the people; as all the people cannot speak for all the people. "Parlare" meaning to speak.

 

7. The Parliament consists of two houses a. The House of People b. Council of states.

 

8. The House of People consists of elected representatives of People.

 

9.  The Council of states consists of secondary representatives of people i.e. representatives of  peoples' representatives.

 

10. Parliament enacts laws which is construed & deemed as De Facto reflects the will of People.

 

11. All functionaries of the three branches of Governance i.e. LEGISLATURE, JUDICIARY & THE EXECUTIVE,  withot exception, otherwise known as "State" as defined in Art. 12 of Constitution of India, are public servants , subservient & accountable to people. So, are Information Commissioners. Hence, People can ask them why a task is not done in a particular manner or not.

13.    From this you would agree that the People of India have installed the Constitution of India & the Government therewithin to themselves & to govern them. Hence, in Democracy, the Government is defined as A GOVERNMENT BY A PEOPLE; OF THE PEOPLE & FOR THE PEOPLE.

 

14.    Hence, the Government & all its functionaries are accountable & answerable to the People of India. Hence, the People of India have a right to question the Government that they have installed within the framework of the Constitution on its acts & omissions. This is otherwise known as the Right to Information.

 

15.    This Right to Information of the People of India is inalienable, axiomatic, fundamental as well as human right . This has been reaffirmed by the Supreme Court of India as a fundamental right forming a facet of Art. 19 (1)(a) of the Constitution of India. Read 6 above.

 

16.    To access, seek, receive & impart information is a Human Right (HR), as per Article 19 of The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) that was adopted by the General Assembly of The United Nations on the 16th December 1966, as cardinal principles of Human Right, embodied in The Protection of Human Rights Act 1993 section 2(d) & (f) forming a facet of Art. 21 Part III, Fundamental Right (FR) i.e. Right to life & Liberty, of the Constitution of India.

17.    Freedom of Information lies at the root of the rights discourse. Failure of the State to provide access to information or State suppression of information can lead to the most egregious forms of human rights violations. The Right to Information (RTI) is fundamental to the realisation of rights as well as effective democracy, which requires informed participation by all.

 

Lot can be written. Please spare time to view atachment

 

Regards,

WEDS

 




From: raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 18 December, 2010 20:19:59
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] PENDENCY AT CIC

Bhaskar,vacancies must be filled.Let the cases be disbursed as fast as possible.Justice delayed it justice denied.Other states should also fill.
Rgds
Bunch

--- On Sat, 18/12/10, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] PENDENCY AT CIC
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 18 December, 2010, 10:43 AM

Dear All,
There is no necessary to increase Informatuion Ciommissioners but let them increse disposals, which is possible.
Yours in RTI service
Bhaskar

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Mr. Rakesh Gupta, RTI activist has received the following information from the CIC on the pendency of cases in reply to his RTI application.

Figures mentioned herein speak for themselves about the dire need to increase the strength of Information Commissioners at CIC.

 

STATUS OF PENDING CASES AT CIC

 

S. No.

 

 

1

Information Commissioner

     (Shri/Ms)

 

2

6 months to one year

3

Over 12 months

 

4

Total

(column 3 & 4)

 

5

Up to 3 months

 

 

6

3-6 months

 

 

7

Grand Total

 

 

8

1.

A. N. Tiwari

90

27

117

790

295

1202

2.

Shailesh Gandhi

0

03

03

738

49

787

(Col 6&7)

3.

Annapurna Dixit

02

02

04

1000

38

1040(Col. 4,6,7)

4.

Dr. M A Ansari

0

5

05

443

44

487

(Col. 6&7)

5.

M L Sharma

0

6

06

1314

3134

4448

(col. 6&7)

6.

Satyanand Mishra

234

07

341

536

341

1111

(col 3, 5&6)

7.

Sushma Singh

23

23

46

595

84

702

(col (3,5&6)

8.

Deepak Sandhu

230

09

239

1200

450

1880

(col.3,5&6)

9.

Wajahat Habibullah

327

270

597

879

535

2011

Total pendencyi against col. 3,4,6&7)

10.

Total

 

 

 

 

 

13,668

 

1.                 Total pending cases – 13,668

2.                 Vacancies of ICs 04 – One more shall occur after the retirement of Shri A N Tiwari.

3.                 Cases pending less than

3 months                    -        54.84%       

6 months                    -        91.20%

3-6 months        -        36.36%

Over 6 months-  -        8.80%

6-12 months      -        6.61%                   -       

              Over 12 months  -        2.19%

 

Notes-

1.       Cases of Shri Wajahat Habibullah are yet to be distributed.

2.       Cases of Dr. M A Ansari have been transferred to others ICs.

3.       Cases of Shri A. N. Tiwari will be transferred to others after his retirement.

 

(Though utmost care has been exercised in putting the figures, the author is not responsible for any inadvertent mistakes and the figures supplied by the CIC to Mr. Rakesh Gupta shall be treated as final. Totals have been given in the same format as has been informed by Mr. Rakesh Gupta)