Tuesday, April 3, 2012

[HumJanenge] Re: Please think of the Nation

Dear David

Thank you for your appreciation of this group's efforts. The apathy
and simply "get used to it" approach is frustrating. I want to repeat
here what another internet friend has emailed me to today morning
about a similar such hopeless / apathetic situation.

"I need to inject a strenuous objection to the response "get used to
it." which affects me much like the supposed red flag and the bull. I
will stipulate the enormous odds that face whoever will refuse to
"get used to it," but we had better remember that just about anyone
who has refused to "get used to" hundreds or thousands of hopeless
situations throughout most of human history has faced impossible odds
except that in quite a few cases they turned out not to be
impossible. Yes. this is a tough one. They have all been tough. The
truly hopeless response, however, is only surrender. II'll stick with
Churchill…Never give in, Never give in Never never never NEVER. Losing
the fight is only defeat. Get used to it is surrender."

Sarbajit

On 4/4/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: david alexander <alex_m_d1952@yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Please think of the Nation
> To: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Cc: Col Mohan <mdkunnath@gmail.com>, Ravindran P M
> <pmravindran@gmail.com>, joseph philip <josephphilip42@yahoo.co.in>,
> gajanan <colgaja@gmail.com>
>
> Dear sarabjit,
>
> it has been since long i have been following the bulletins. thought
> should give some view points- of mine.
>
> Media with hooh-hah reported that our Defence Minister is directing
> COAS to speed up the eqpt purchases. will somebody tell him- who is
> withholding all the eqpt trial reports and recommendations?
>
> is it the army who places the purchase orders or is it the babus?
> why MOD cannot release a white paper on the pending procurement files
> status with clear cut areas of delay & person/ s who caused it?
> also what are the effects of not having the same- for the services??
>
> why & how Gorbachev procurement -so delayed would help the services
> when the eqpt would be literally useless in the present environment.
>
> why eqpt trail / technical assessment reports go missing?
> what are the methods these are tracked? is there an identifiable
> trail of these available?
>
> who is DRDO Head to tell of the Performance of the Tatra?
> ask for trail reports to be published to back his claim or ask under
> RTI for report to be placed in public forum
>
> why do we take an ex-babu shooting off his mouth to send COAS on
> forced leave? ( this exactly is the problem- the babus think their
> opinions are ultimate- and treat the Services as doormat- compared to
> Old cabinet secretaties who treated services as a respected one)
> why our own earlier / present / future COAS does not call a spade a
> spade- and take the nation to confidence- by releasing the pending
> status report on procurements- and the effect on the poor serviceman?
>
> why not send a confidential consolidated report on deficiencies in men
> & eqpt existing to MOD and let them have confidential discussion?
> why DRDO who has a BIG budget & produces worthless end products after
> decades of so called research?
> ( it is not what we did- but what we didi not that counts)
>
> why the so called babus / scientists are not attached to our field
> sections and spend a tenure at all the fields- than sitting in comfort
> of the ac room and dictate?
> has any one including Judiciary thought that giving permanent
> commission to ladies does create SERIOUS cascading problems- that MS
> would generally post them to peace / soft fields seriously affecting
> the peace rotational tenure for all those without GOD FATHERS?
> we have become toothless
>
> let MOD / our MS address the motivation level of a soldier in 1970's
> and now and publish the reports generated and place it in parliment-
> let us see what solutions the big mouths have?
> the problem with Services at many times are- we never unite under any
> circumstance- like the babus & politicians when their survival is at
> stake- and leave the couragious ones to the wolves.
> Let our COAS who started the expose- atleast release more sordid going
> on in the MOD- now that they have demolished his Honour and there is
> nothing to loose- than the remaining honour- atleast the Services may
> remeber him as one who went down fighting!!
> why our own services donot enquire internally on various DGs from
> time to time to find any malpractices and met out exemploray
> punishments?
>
> think we have lost out again to the babus- the system is thick skinned
> and we cannot keep etrnally banging on closed doors- take the OROP
> case itself- Govt has the power to file case after case , petition
> after petition- grind down to rubble- and bring to Nought the
> services- (Judiciary also toes the line and is a part of it(see the
> judgements and its implementations- hurried when they want it and
> slow when they only want to show )
>
> the MS also should periodically publish OAP levels existing 3-4
> decades back and as on date- that should seal the critics mouth once
> and for all.a great work being done by you & various team members- but
> the moot point is - are we arriving some where?
> sorry i took much of your time
>
> M David Alexander.
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Please think of the Nation
>

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