Sunday, April 10, 2011

[rti4empowerment] Re: [rtitimes] Re: [HumJanenge] Corrupt Rich India versus Poor Real India

I would request all dont create any further confussion/confrontation to UNITY of CITIZEN rallied behind BHARAT RATNA ANNA HAZARE(Which conferred to him citizen in its own way). Yes we may differ on certain persons involvment or not involvement.
The main point we need to see the Great ANNA HAZARE and his contribution and the result by and large the People of this Nation.
I know many CSO and NGO who themselves claimed by Crussador could join and many who could not join mere because of EGO with few people on the movment. Now some Delhi based people I found cripping how an Old person and from far village taken the cause and such worth result achieved, which they never been able to..
There may be many good names(such as APJ Abdul Kalam, E Sreedharan, TN Sheshan, S C Aggarwa these in my mind just comes and you may have many such names) can be but now its not time to discusss
If there are issues of anything that must be looked into and not to let such people INN if in any one have integrity doubt considered in future by BEING PART and not by DISTANCING.
We all have diffrent names so do our views will be...

Be part of the solution be part of the REVOULUTION
 
Rejimon 

 
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Milap Choraria <milap_choraria@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Hari Goyalji,
 
I am not just RTI Activist, but I am working for several years for reforrm in the system. You please go to my Website: http://milapchoraria.tripod.com/msp
Milap Choraria

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--- On Sun, 4/10/11, vinay singh <vinay4299@gmail.com> wrote:

From: vinay singh <vinay4299@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Corrupt Rich India versus Poor Real India
To: rtitimes@freelists.org, humjanenge@googlegroups.com, rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com, rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in, rti4ngo@googlegroups.com, parivartan_india@rediffmail.com, milap_choraria@yahoo.com
Cc: "Hari Goyal" <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 7:50 PM

Hari Goyal is talking through his hat. Prashant Bhushan is one of the few selfless lawyers I have seen. If he is convinced that the case is in public interest, he does not charge any fees.
 
I am being prosecuted by the CBI for writing a book exposing corruption in RAW. Three years ago, I approached Arvind Kejriwal who put me through  to Mr Prashant Bhushan. I had several meetings with him and also gave a presentation before the Citizens Forum Against Corruption. Once he was convinced of the genuineness of my case, he agreed to take it on, gratis. During the last three years, there have been dozens of hearings in the Delhi High Court. Unless he has a case in the Supreme Court at the same time, he always attends personally. Prashant Bhushan, Arvind Kejriwal and Admiral RH Tahliani even took a delgation to the CVC to ask him to investigate the instances of corruption that I had formally reported to him.
 
It is true that Prashant Bhushan does charge fees (nominal, compared to others) to sustain his office expenses and his staff. But 75% of the cases he takes on are free. Hari Goyal should check his facts bbefroe making false allegations against a respected and selfless person  like Prashant Bhushan.
 
 
Maj Gen VK Singh (Retd)
Gurgaon
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: haridgoyal@hotmail.com
To: rtitimes@freelists.org; humjanenge@googlegroups.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in; rti4ngo@googlegroups.com; parivartan_india@rediffmail.com
Subject: RE: [rtitimes] Appeal to Swami Ramdevji
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:24:04 -0600

Mr. Milap Choraria,
 
RTI activists should not indulge in raising appeals. Any whre dynastic decisions particulalry in politics have ruined this country and you are voting for it.
Mr. Prashant Bhushan is billionnaire. He takes the cases of only rich people (corrupt rich India and not of common man - the Real India). Baba Ram Dev
has raised an important question. A person who does not know how much injustice is done to poor people, how can he represent their aspirations? Do you
know his fee for a CASE? On my personal experience, I can say that Baba Ram Dev,s opposition is well justified. Gight against corruption is long perhAPS
a few generations will have to fight. In the beginning itself, Anna Hazare Ji should not have accepted this without having got litmus test like Congress CM
of Delhi refusing to take action against a corrupt minister on the recommendation of Delhi Lok Ayukta who earned powers on the basis of Dellhi Lokayukta Act
of 1998. Rathwer she is challenging his authority. This may happen when Jan Lok Pal Bill chairman makes any recommendation against a minister or bureacrat
and a corrupt P.M. may not take any action. Real India will have to remain a mute spectator. 
UPA Govt. in the Centre particularly Congress and DMK wanted to buy time to reduce negative effects of this agitation
AND SIBAL  HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
 
Hari Goyal 
rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in
10.04.2011 



 

Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 00:00:25 -0700
From: milap_choraria@yahoo.com
Subject: [rtitimes] Appeal to Swami Ramdevji to forward his full support to Committee's Penal Members from Civil Society including Shri Shanti Bhusanji and Shri Prashant Bhusanji
To: rtitimes@freelists.org

Swami Ramdevji expressed his concerned claiming that appointment of Shri Shanti Bhusanji and Shri Prashant Bhusan is also a dynastic appointment in Drafting Committee for Lokpal Bill. 

 

Shri Shanti Bhusanji is just not a former Law Minister, rather he was known fighter against political corruption, since he fought Famous Election Petition in Allahabad High Court on behalf of Shri Raj Narayan against Smt. Indira Gandhi. He is one of the important legal luminaries of India.

 

Shri Prashant Bhusanji, no doubt is son of Shri Shanti Bhusanji, but he himself proved as very competent Supreme Court Lawyer, without taking any advantage of the name and fame of his father. He filed several petitions, concerned to Larger Public Interests and also against corruption related matter. He was dare to face contempt Petition initiated against him in the Supreme Court, because he raised a very important issue, of ethnic values.

 

Both Shri Shanti Bhusanji and Shri Prashant Bhusanji involved in drafting of Jan Lokpal Bill. I think we could not have able to suggest any better name for Co-Chairman than Shanti Bhusanji. If we opposing the name of Shri Prashant Bhusanji, we are trying to damage the efficacy which may contain in the Lokpal Bill, if its drafted by the present Drafting Committee, having with its members including Shri Shanti Bhusanji and Shri Prashant Bhusanji.

Therefore, this is my appeal to Swami Ramdevji, kindly withdraw his opposition against appointment of Shri Shanti Bhusanji and Shri Prashant Bhusanji by Shri Anna Hazare, and should forward his full support to Committee's Penal Members from Civil Society.

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