Friday, December 10, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI challenges

Hi Everybody,
You may kindly remove me from this group if you think my remarks below are uncalled for ? What are we discussing on this group?  Aren't we going communal here? Every religion has a respect. I am sorry to say but someone please explain me the purpose of this group ? Are these the things to be discussed on such an imp. forum?. If yes, then sorry to say I am at a wrong place. You may continue. The yahoogroup counterpart is much more mature.
 
Regrets
Abhinav Agarwal


 
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:07 AM, irfan khan <rtirti.khan@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. jagadesh .
Islam allows up to 4 wives to give respect to women .
Islam says if u love your secratary  marry her and give her ful respect as wife and full financial and social obligations .
 
Islam says extra marital affairs are HARAM  . if u really love a second women then why dont you marry her ??
 
as far as our courts are concerned  , they are allowing "live in relationships  without marriage  and same sex marriage etc But they do not allow a second marriage .
 
Dharmendra gave respect to hema malini by marrying her . Nothing wrong in it.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM, K N Jagadesh kumar <jkgroup999@gmail.com> wrote:
Article -14 of the Indian Constitution says " Equality before law" that means let it be a common man or the President of india they should be treated equally before law.
But if a hindu marry more than one spouse, he/she will go behind bars but the Muslims can marry up to four spouses which is legal. 
Either we need to remove Article -14 of the Indian Constitution or Add an article to the constitution "Unequality before the Religion and personnel affairs".  
 thank you.

 
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM, irfan khan <rtirti.khan@gmail.com> wrote:
dear sarbajit.
 
india's constituition acknowledges and protects "Muslim Personal Law".
 
In Shah Bobnu's case supem court of india passed an illegal order .
 
Suprem court cannot pass any order that is against constituition of India, But supreme court did that mistake in shah bau case by interfering muslim personal law.
 
what rajive did was "he upheld sanctity of constitution of india.
 
Sarbajit do not be so narrow minded.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:05 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
She is a member of Parliament. Her son is a member of Parliament. They vote on laws including personal (religious) laws. They make amendments to personal laws. Sonia Gandhi is the de-facto head of India's Govt. The public of India (which includes me) has every right to know her religion. I have a right to know in advance what her position is on say birth control which has ceased to be a priority since she became an Indian citizen.. . She should come out and openly state what her religion is, and not masquerade as a Christian or a Hindu or a Parsi as the situation requires.

PS: The day we get a Uniform Civil Code I will stop seeking  this question.

PPS: The day Rajiv Gandhi overturned the Shah Bano judgment was one of the
blackest days in India's democracy.

Sarbajit


On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:34 PM, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:
what you will gain by knowing sonia gadhi's Religion , It will not serve any purpose , in what way it will help the general public , 


On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Guptaji

You ask about PUBLIC PURPOSE !!! Let us take Mr Karira's suggestion of obtaining marriage records.

In England/UK you can go to the local site where marriages are registered and inspect the records. If you don't find it there is a secondary record maintained at the National General Registry Office.

In India we have the same arrangement. Each and every law for marriages of foreigner to Indian specifies that a copy will be maintained at the local level as well as at Central Level.
In Delhi these records are available since 1860. Yet, I ask you where have the marriage records of Sonia-nee-Maino to Rajiv Gandhi disappeared off to ?

How do you know that this is not a bigamous marriage like another pair of MPs Dharmendra/Hema Malini whose marriage records have equally mysteriously vanished.? Are  the children of this marriage legally entitled to avail benefits from Members of Parliament? How did Dharmendra file an election affidavit without naming his "wife" and get elected to Lok Sabha ?.

It is a national scandal, and somebody must answer. Preferably IC(Shailesh Gandhi) who must order an FIR to be lodged for these lost/stolen records.

The media publicises that Rahul Gandhi eats a meal at a Dalit's (low caste house). What is the caste, if any, of Rahul Gandhi that makes this newsworthy ? Don't you want to know!

Another thing, after somebody asked for Sonia Gandhi's Census records to know her religion, has anybody on this mailing list been asked for their religion in the course of the latest Census ? I know I haven't as yet and 2010 is almost over.

Sarbajit






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