Saturday, December 11, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: RTI challenges

Only Indian no first or last.This group should take care of Secularism/Democracy

--- On Sat, 11/12/10, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: RTI challenges
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 11 December, 2010, 4:56 PM

Though I was born in the family of a Vaish (Gupta) in the Hindu religion yet I regard myself as Indian first.  I also respect Muslim, Sikh, Christian, Budha, Jainism, Persian and all other religions not mentioned here. The goal of all the religions is one though the ways to reach that goal are different.  I shall have been equally happy if I have been born in some other religion as I believe in one religion i.e. 'Humanity' and in servicing of not only human beings but also other creatures of God.  We don't have any control to take birth in a particular religion and this is decided by God but we can control ourselves by living in harmonious ways with the followers of all other religions.

 

After the hate messages of Mr. R. Singh have been stopped on yahoogroup, on this group, one member is suggesting to revoke the suspension of another sender of hate messages i.e. Mr S D Sharma to invite such messages. Shame on us. Pl. do not test patience of the members.




From: sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 11 December, 2010 2:58:27 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: RTI challenges

Dear Nikit

Please believe when I say that I understand and agree with the
sentiment behind your message. I also appreciate your usage of starred
terms <smile>

I shall truthfully reply that YES I think the issue of why Sonia
Gandhi's and Rahul Gandhi's religion and caste details as recorded in
PUBLIC Govt records is not accessible in RTI to citizens is a matter
of incredible public concern.

I am not interested in the politics of this. For me all political
parties / politicians are equally unsavoury and corrupt.

The specific reason why I want this information is to test the
integrity / honesty / equity of the RTI delivery system. If this group
which has so many people knowledgeable about RTI cannot get access to
PUBLIC records using RTI then the RTI scheme stands exposed as a
massive fraud. I personally cannot accept an RTI appellate scheme
which says Mr X is entitled to inspect records submitted in
coinfidence by Sarbajit Roy (over my detailed objections) but not that
of Sonia Gandhi (because she appointed me as an Information
Commissioner) which are in any case in the public domain as per
pre-existing law.

Finally, if the discussion here is poor, it is because the good and
honest people choose to keep quiet.

I hope you understand what I am saying here.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Nikit Abhyankar
<nikit.abhyankar@gmail.com> wrote:
> What the f*** is this supposed to mean Mr. Roy? If you think these issues
> are really more important than everything else that the country is facing -
> I pity you. I am deeply disappointed with the discussions on this group
> lately.
> MODERATORS: PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME.
> Nikit Abhyankar
>
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:


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