Tuesday, May 14, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

MR AFRIDI DESERVES COMPLIMENTS FOR HIS RIGHT THINKING.


From: Amjad Afridi <afridiamjad@hotmail.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:19 AM
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

I think this kind of thinking is the outcome of being born in a particular era and being brought up in Ghettos.
In other words, this is the (under) development of a narrow mind and vision due to a variety of reasons...time and space being the most important.

It is also another way of staying in news. 
Otherwise who had heard of Barq before this....lol.....?
Not me.

My humble opinion is that this only strengthens the case for more liberal education for the Muslims.

While we are at it, why should Sonia Gandhi be sending 'chaddars' to the Ajmer Dargah ?  
Isnt it a simplistic way of telling the illiterate and un-educated Muslim vote banks that she wants their votes ?
Isnt there a vested interest that wants to keep the Muslims back-ward ?

The Hajj Subsidy needs to be withdrawn immediately as per the directions of the Hon'ble Supreme Court because the Hajj Subsidy is actually only feeding the Air India which sells the Hajj Tickets at an exorbitant rate.

Additionally, why dont we demand an end to sending senior government and IAS officers on deputation to the Vashno Devi Trust, the Tirupati Devasthanam, Jagan-nath Temple, Puri and to various Hajj and Auqaf Trusts all over the country ?

The Government has no business controlling religious bodies but these bodies are too tempting for the government to stay away because of vote bank politics 

Sadly, Indian Politics has re-defined the term 'Secular' and wrongly so.

May Allah save our Country ! !

Jai Hind.

Amjad Afridi


Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 00:21:01 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

So what do you think of A.R. Rehman's version ?
http://www.metrolyrics.com/maa-tujhe-salaam-lyrics-ar-rahman.html

he only gives Mother a "salaam".


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:21 PM, <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
It is all Muslim awkwardness, hiding behind Islam. They enjoy being ridiculous especially when they are amongst people of other faiths. That is all.
 
Islam forbids Hajj subsidy. Does it not hurt their religious sensibility when they accept Hajj subsidy. If not then why does it hurt to sing a song in praise of your mother/country  who gave you birth and where you live. The Muslims must learn
 to not only be loyal but also show their lyality. That is all.  Devinder

From: Sainik Sangh <gs@sainiksangh.org>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013, 7:53
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

People walking out on any song in praise of the nation and its people are lampoons  and morons ! Our political class is one!
chauhan
 
From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Veerendra Jaitly
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:25 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation
 
It is sad that some people find it difficult to sing even a few lines in the praise of our own motherland. 
 
'Vande Matram' is a great song which at one time united all Indians irrespective of caste, creed and religion. 
 
With modernization, some people are becoming more and more fanatic and less flexible.
 
rgds
 
VK Jaitly 
 
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Sack MPs who don't respect National Song 
No matter what his reservations may have been against the National Song, by disdainfully walking out of Parliament when Vande Mataram was being played, BSP leader Shafiqur Rahman Barq has insulted the country. Such an affront to the nation, that too delivered inside the hallowed halls of Parliament — the sanctum sanctorum of democracy, cannot be tolerated. Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar has taken note of the incident, but the matter must not be allowed to rest there. The offending MP's membership to the lower House must be cancelled and his political boss would do well to severely reprimand him. Not only has Mr Barq committed sacrilege, he has shown no remorse for his despicable behaviour. Instead, the little known MP from Moradabad has defended his actions in the name of 'religious freedom' and 'secularism'. That the two have absolutely nothing to do with respecting one's motherland is clearly a concept that is alien to Mr Barq, who has argued that since rendering Vande Mataram is the equivalent of paying 'homage to a Hindu idol', he, as a true Muslim, cannot 'worship' anyone else apart from Allah. The fallacious nature of his argument apart, the fact remains that Mr Barq had no business dragging his religious beliefs into Parliament, where he has come not as a representive of a religious community. Moreover, if he really felt so strongly about the National Song, he had other ways to register his concern. He could have, for instance, stood aside while the song was being played. But by walking out, Mr Barq sought cheap publicity through the use of his religious identity. But this is not the first time that Mr Barq has played the Muslim card; he had opposed the BSP's 'Jai Bhim' slogan too.
This is also not the first time that Vande Mataram has been criticised for being 'anti-Islamic'. This manufactured controversy goes back to the turbulent decades of the 1930s and 1940s when the country's emergent Muslim leadership was seeking to consolidate its own political base vis-à-vis that of the Congress. By that time, Vande Mataram — Bankim Chandra Chattopadhay's powerful paen to the motherland which had bound the national conscience, Hindus and Muslims alike, during the 1905 Bengal partition — was already being sung at the opening of all Congress sessions. However, when the party wanted to make the song the national anthem, some Muslim leaders objected. In 1937, a sub-committee that included Jawaharlal Nehru and Subhas Chandra Bose reviewed the song, and for the first time in the 1938 Haripura session, only the first two stanzas were played. Even that did little to placate the likes of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, who demanded the song be scrapped.
But while that did not happen, Vande Mataram has remained the favourite punching bag of communal leaders. In 2006, the song's centenary celebrations were hampered after some Muslims complained against a Union Government directive asking all schools to sing the song on September 7. A supine Congress leadership in New Delhi buckled before them, as it had earlier. The question now is: Will it be any different this time around or will Shafiqur Rahman Barq get away with his shocking irreverance?
 


 
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With Warm Regards,
Commander V.K. Jaitly



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