Re: [IAC#RG] Reply: Re: Govt has been lying all along on COVID

This is all statements that we have heard from ruling party leaders and spokesmen on TV. Why repeat? There is no proof and no basis. Every party has their plus and minus points. Minus points are only pointed out by the party succeeding that party in the Government, with many times exaggerations, to be able to win further elections. Every party in power tries to keep their faults and shortcomings in wraps, till they are in power.

R.N.Malhotra 

On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 08:26:34 AM PDT, Satish Kumar Kapoor <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Congress is not a political party now a days.

It is Sonia Gandhi's family Pvt Ltd, full of chamchas, persons of slave mentality.

Most corrupt , more than 3-4 times corrupt than BJP.

More over Congress is 100 % anti Hindu, pro Muslim , anti national Party. So no Hindu should support it.

S.K.Kapoor

On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 03:44:25 AM GMT+5:30, Rajinder Dalvi <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

To:

Dr. Tantri

Unfortunately true that under a series of uneducated politicians India has been steadily descending into chaos and confusion.

Rahul Gandhi's fake degree were under scanner but at least he attended colleges like St.Stephens . Narendra Modi's fabricated degrees (correspondence MA in "Entire" Political Science) from RSS University which has zero attendance has made India laughing stock.

Entire education system has been totally corrupted with RSS moles embedded in all institutions issuing fake degrees to their cadres, Rot started in Bihar with so many fake universities there.

No better example to illustrate the deep rot in corrupt Modi Govt than to take the case of Guijarat cadre IAS office Anita Karwal who is one of Modi's inner circle of pliant officers (she was chief election commissioner of Gujarat when modi was CM there) .

This officer, whose previous posting was Chairperson CBSE when there was rampant paper leakage and en-masse tampering of marks, claims to have 4 academic degrees such as B.A (Hons) Zoology, Ll.B, MA in Entire Political Science, M.Phil in Political Science. She also claims in her IAS CV on DoPT website to be university topper and Gold medallist in these degrees,

Curiously this officer has suppressed the University and year of attainment mndatory columns of these alleged degrees in the DoPT website. Complaints were made to DoPT that these degrees are fake,.RTIs were issued to DoPT, UPSC, CBSE all of which were stonewalled.  The DopT replied back that Ms.Karwal's degree could not be verified from the concerned University. . The said "University" has regularly been on UGC's list of fake universities for a very long time, Finally, the DoPT "requested" Ms. Karwal's superior officer Ms. Rina Ray, IAS  (the then Secretary Schools) to immediately inquire into the evidence backed allegations that Ms. Karwal's degrees are fake/ dubious. This brave officer submitted a report confirming that Ms. Karwal's degrees were suspect and that the officer (then of Additional Secretary rank)  was not cooperating.

The result, Ms. Rina Ray, IAS  was put on suspension (this unheard of step for such a senior rank officer was taken directly from PMO)  and reverted to cadre where she cools her heels with no work. After 2 months Anita karwal was promoted to Secretary rank and today occupies Rina Ray's post as Secretary Schools in MHRD. This is all part of a deep rooted international conspiracy to keep Indians poorly educated so India remains a 3rd world power. Hitler Modi likes to have such tainted, dishonest and worthless officers with him who blindly carry out his instructions.

Is it any wonder then that the COVID-19 continues to rage increasingly in India while these barely educated politicians like Modi issues one foolish instruction after the other based on advice by equally uneducated "experts" with fake degrees.

Time may be approaching for the HINDU SAMAJ to consider the unthinkable and back the Congress if such gross incompetence and corruption continues.

regards

Dalvi

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:16 AM "shilpi.tanti" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Yes,  we statisticians are not getting job and partially illiterate mathematicians are developing models and predicting it.  This is India.  People compares the HS results irrespective of the combinations.


Sent from vivo smartphone

Instead of suggesting a basic lesson in infection biology, it seems what you need is a basic course in MATHEMATICS.

It is a sad reality of the complete  anarchy in the Indian education system that academics in BIOLOGY stream mostly stop learning mathematics after class 10 due to PCB "stream" system and so are far less competent than their PCM stream peers.The PM's chosen 10th class maths pass Chairman of Covid empowered committee at NITI AYG who publicly predicted that Covid-19 would be snuffed out by 16 May 2020 being a prize example.

Since we seem to agree agree that Govt should have done very much more testing and been open about their numbers, one can very safely conclude that all statistics disseminated till date by them are actually BOGUS and fictitious.

Dr. Roy is correct when he says that this government has deliberately set out  toinfect as many Indians as possible as rapidly as possible. I have also said much the same thing on this forum  Some very PRAGMATIC people in government had decided between a millions Indian dying versus boosting Mukesh Ambani's trillions on the "frothy" stock markets where they booked their profit so long as SEBI was not enforcing margins. Every IAS / IPS officer on Ambani's "payroll" is a multi crore-pati now due to Covid.

Regarding paras 3, 4,5 of your email it is very difficult to discuss such things with a person who is not well grounded in mathematics and statistics. Even the most basic global population weighted  metrics of deaths/million or cases/million or testing per million of India versus the rest of the world would educate you on where .India ranks  under this INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT government.

Numbers don't lie, people do.

Ravi, Ph.D.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:48 AM Akash Saini <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology. 

1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable. 

2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.

3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.

4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Reply: Re: Govt has been lying all along on COVID

To:

Dr. Tantri

Unfortunately true that under a series of uneducated politicians India has been steadily descending into chaos and confusion.

Rahul Gandhi's fake degree were under scanner but at least he attended colleges like St.Stephens . Narendra Modi's fabricated degrees (correspondence MA in "Entire" Political Science) from RSS University which has zero attendance has made India laughing stock.

Entire education system has been totally corrupted with RSS moles embedded in all institutions issuing fake degrees to their cadres, Rot started in Bihar with so many fake universities there.

No better example to illustrate the deep rot in corrupt Modi Govt than to take the case of Guijarat cadre IAS office Anita Karwal who is one of Modi's inner circle of pliant officers (she was chief election commissioner of Gujarat when modi was CM there) .

This officer, whose previous posting was Chairperson CBSE when there was rampant paper leakage and en-masse tampering of marks, claims to have 4 academic degrees such as B.A (Hons) Zoology, Ll.B, MA in Entire Political Science, M.Phil in Political Science. She also claims in her IAS CV on DoPT website to be university topper and Gold medallist in these degrees,

Curiously this officer has suppressed the University and year of attainment mndatory columns of these alleged degrees in the DoPT website. Complaints were made to DoPT that these degrees are fake,.RTIs were issued to DoPT, UPSC, CBSE all of which were stonewalled.  The DopT replied back that Ms.Karwal's degree could not be verified from the concerned University. . The said "University" has regularly been on UGC's list of fake universities for a very long time, Finally, the DoPT "requested" Ms. Karwal's superior officer Ms. Rina Ray, IAS  (the then Secretary Schools) to immediately inquire into the evidence backed allegations that Ms. Karwal's degrees are fake/ dubious. This brave officer submitted a report confirming that Ms. Karwal's degrees were suspect and that the officer (then of Additional Secretary rank)  was not cooperating.

The result, Ms. Rina Ray, IAS  was put on suspension (this unheard of step for such a senior rank officer was taken directly from PMO)  and reverted to cadre where she cools her heels with no work. After 2 months Anita karwal was promoted to Secretary rank and today occupies Rina Ray's post as Secretary Schools in MHRD. This is all part of a deep rooted international conspiracy to keep Indians poorly educated so India remains a 3rd world power. Hitler Modi likes to have such tainted, dishonest and worthless officers with him who blindly carry out his instructions.

Is it any wonder then that the COVID-19 continues to rage increasingly in India while these barely educated politicians like Modi issues one foolish instruction after the other based on advice by equally uneducated "experts" with fake degrees.

Time may be approaching for the HINDU SAMAJ to consider the unthinkable and back the Congress if such gross incompetence and corruption continues.

regards

Dalvi

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:16 AM "shilpi.tanti" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Yes,  we statisticians are not getting job and partially illiterate mathematicians are developing models and predicting it.  This is India.  People compares the HS results irrespective of the combinations.


Sent from vivo smartphone

Instead of suggesting a basic lesson in infection biology, it seems what you need is a basic course in MATHEMATICS.

It is a sad reality of the complete  anarchy in the Indian education system that academics in BIOLOGY stream mostly stop learning mathematics after class 10 due to PCB "stream" system and so are far less competent than their PCM stream peers.The PM's chosen 10th class maths pass Chairman of Covid empowered committee at NITI AYG who publicly predicted that Covid-19 would be snuffed out by 16 May 2020 being a prize example.

Since we seem to agree agree that Govt should have done very much more testing and been open about their numbers, one can very safely conclude that all statistics disseminated till date by them are actually BOGUS and fictitious.

Dr. Roy is correct when he says that this government has deliberately set out  toinfect as many Indians as possible as rapidly as possible. I have also said much the same thing on this forum  Some very PRAGMATIC people in government had decided between a millions Indian dying versus boosting Mukesh Ambani's trillions on the "frothy" stock markets where they booked their profit so long as SEBI was not enforcing margins. Every IAS / IPS officer on Ambani's "payroll" is a multi crore-pati now due to Covid.

Regarding paras 3, 4,5 of your email it is very difficult to discuss such things with a person who is not well grounded in mathematics and statistics. Even the most basic global population weighted  metrics of deaths/million or cases/million or testing per million of India versus the rest of the world would educate you on where .India ranks  under this INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT government.

Numbers don't lie, people do.

Ravi, Ph.D.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:48 AM Akash Saini <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology. 

1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable. 

2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.

3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.

4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.

Thanks

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[IAC#RG] Reply: Re: Govt has been lying all along on COVID

Yes,  we statisticians are not getting job and partially illiterate mathematicians are developing models and predicting it.  This is India.  People compares the HS results irrespective of the combinations.



Sent from vivo smartphone

Re: [IAC#RG] Govt has been lying all along on COVID

Instead of suggesting a basic lesson in infection biology, it seems what you need is a basic course in MATHEMATICS.

It is a sad reality of the complete  anarchy in the Indian education system that academics in BIOLOGY stream mostly stop learning mathematics after class 10 due to PCB "stream" system and so are far less competent than their PCM stream peers.The PM's chosen 10th class maths pass Chairman of Covid empowered committee at NITI AYG who publicly predicted that Covid-19 would be snuffed out by 16 May 2020 being a prize example.

Since we seem to agree agree that Govt should have done very much more testing and been open about their numbers, one can very safely conclude that all statistics disseminated till date by them are actually BOGUS and fictitious.

Dr. Roy is correct when he says that this government has deliberately set out  toinfect as many Indians as possible as rapidly as possible. I have also said much the same thing on this forum  Some very PRAGMATIC people in government had decided between a millions Indian dying versus boosting Mukesh Ambani's trillions on the "frothy" stock markets where they booked their profit so long as SEBI was not enforcing margins. Every IAS / IPS officer on Ambani's "payroll" is a multi crore-pati now due to Covid.

Regarding paras 3, 4,5 of your email it is very difficult to discuss such things with a person who is not well grounded in mathematics and statistics. Even the most basic global population weighted  metrics of deaths/million or cases/million or testing per million of India versus the rest of the world would educate you on where .India ranks  under this INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT government.

Numbers don't lie, people do.

Ravi, Ph.D.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:48 AM Akash Saini <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology. 

1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable. 

2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.

3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.

4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.

Thanks

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Re: [IAC#RG] Govt has been lying all along on COVID

Yes, you are very right, the public including non-literates, schoolchildren, college students, and educated lay people do need some explanations of epidemiology of this virus, but many of us (educated ignorants) have heard administrators, highly qualified scientists and epidemiologists disputing each other's claims and hypotheses on YouTube and news channels. Even WHO, who should have known better than to pontificate that the airbourne virus can't infect people, are now hesitatingly admitting that there is a possibility of aerosol viral transmission.

When such information that is vital for our safe conduct is released in small bytes, months after the pandemic has reaped it's deadly toll, suggests deliberate suppression of information on global and national levels. As you know there is, after all, a possibility that this SARS2 organism that has been worked on for gain of function research in many countries, putatively to develop vaccines for bio-warfare protection, that it has been weaponized and has deliberately been released to fulfill the aims of population control advocates like Bill Gates (see his famous TED talks on this) and the secret global elite who want to usher in the new world order sooner rather than later. In fact, there is widespread belief in those who 'see the signs' that this is what has happened. So epidemiology and political science coalesce here.

Our own politicians are so abysmally ignorant about the subjects they handle (think of Prakash Javedekar) that it is perfectly right to condemn their pronouncements, their incompetence and venal.policies. in the most forthright way. If we are to be called urban naxals, Lefties, terrorists, anti-nationals - attributes that are sending dozens of academicians, lawyers, doctors, human rights defenders, political dissidents including Kashmiris to jail in the midst of a raging pandemic - shouldn't we at least condemn the callousness and incapacity of the political leadership to govern this country in the strongest terms possible?

In fact, the mammoth global technocratic confederation that has built up since the 1940s post WWII era despise people and politicians alike. Who says Amazon, Google, the Bezos, Gates Foundation, Elon Musks,  and big pharma companies don't rule the world now? Their net worth - non-taxable, stashed in offshore havens - profiteering on the pandemic's impact do suggest it could be a planned disaster. And we are its victims. 

They probably have a vaccine already, given to select, compliant world leaders to keep up a facade of democratic governance. After all they've been working on it for decades. But they may ultimately be beaten by the Frankenstein itself, as the virus mutates in constant adaptation to its hosts.

So please, don't suggest moderation in speech by those who condemn the stupidity and venality of local political regimes. We need all voices to be heard. Wait till you find out what happened in villages where those hapless, starving migrants returned home to, carrying their deadly gift of Covid19 with them.

Joya Roy

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020, 03:45 Akash Saini, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology. 

1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable. 

2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.

3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.

4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.

Thanks

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 4:56 PM Swati Kotwal <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Dear Sir, 

What a disrespectful way of addressing the PM and CM, that too from a senior officer. India is really improving. You can always put your point without shouting and using foul language. 

Dr Swati Kotwal (Retd)

Sent from my iPhone

On 23-Jul-2020, at 4:32 PM, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:



Finally,

An official survey by the NCDC (Govt of India) has admitted that by June-July 2020 "only" 22.68% of Delhi's residents had been exposed to (ie. infected by) the novel Corona virus.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/22-8-in-delhi-affected-have-covid-19-antibodies-sero-surveillance-reveals/articleshow/77094250.cms

This clearly establishes

1) That Modu sarkaar and Kejru sarkaar have been lying throughout this episode and their COVID infection numbers are all fake and cooked up like we said. Furthermore their admissions indicate the COVID death tolls are likewise actually at least 10 times higher than reported, with mass graves being secretly dug everywhere to throw the corpses into.

2) That both these govts (headed by incompetent lying trader community rogues) deliberately wanted to infect as many Indians as possible so that the business establishments run by their trader community notebanks can be reopened for profit and black money generation.

3) The declining infections in Delhi clearly show that by now 60% of the population of Delhi is infected.

4) However, the latest studies show that the immunity only last for about 75 days , so there is likely to be the 2nd wave in about 3 months.

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] Govt has been lying all along on COVID

What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology. 

1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable. 

2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.

3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.

4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.

Thanks

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 4:56 PM Swati Kotwal <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Dear Sir, 

What a disrespectful way of addressing the PM and CM, that too from a senior officer. India is really improving. You can always put your point without shouting and using foul language. 

Dr Swati Kotwal (Retd)

Sent from my iPhone

On 23-Jul-2020, at 4:32 PM, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:



Finally,

An official survey by the NCDC (Govt of India) has admitted that by June-July 2020 "only" 22.68% of Delhi's residents had been exposed to (ie. infected by) the novel Corona virus.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/22-8-in-delhi-affected-have-covid-19-antibodies-sero-surveillance-reveals/articleshow/77094250.cms

This clearly establishes

1) That Modu sarkaar and Kejru sarkaar have been lying throughout this episode and their COVID infection numbers are all fake and cooked up like we said. Furthermore their admissions indicate the COVID death tolls are likewise actually at least 10 times higher than reported, with mass graves being secretly dug everywhere to throw the corpses into.

2) That both these govts (headed by incompetent lying trader community rogues) deliberately wanted to infect as many Indians as possible so that the business establishments run by their trader community notebanks can be reopened for profit and black money generation.

3) The declining infections in Delhi clearly show that by now 60% of the population of Delhi is infected.

4) However, the latest studies show that the immunity only last for about 75 days , so there is likely to be the 2nd wave in about 3 months.

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] Govt has been lying all along on COVID

Dear All,

I fully agree with Dr Swati Kotwal. One must use decent language even in disagreements. 

Regards

Narendra Talwar

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 4:55 PM Swati Kotwal <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Dear Sir, 

What a disrespectful way of addressing the PM and CM, that too from a senior officer. India is really improving. You can always put your point without shouting and using foul language. 

Dr Swati Kotwal (Retd)

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On 23-Jul-2020, at 4:32 PM, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:



Finally,

An official survey by the NCDC (Govt of India) has admitted that by June-July 2020 "only" 22.68% of Delhi's residents had been exposed to (ie. infected by) the novel Corona virus.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/22-8-in-delhi-affected-have-covid-19-antibodies-sero-surveillance-reveals/articleshow/77094250.cms

This clearly establishes

1) That Modu sarkaar and Kejru sarkaar have been lying throughout this episode and their COVID infection numbers are all fake and cooked up like we said. Furthermore their admissions indicate the COVID death tolls are likewise actually at least 10 times higher than reported, with mass graves being secretly dug everywhere to throw the corpses into.

2) That both these govts (headed by incompetent lying trader community rogues) deliberately wanted to infect as many Indians as possible so that the business establishments run by their trader community notebanks can be reopened for profit and black money generation.

3) The declining infections in Delhi clearly show that by now 60% of the population of Delhi is infected.

4) However, the latest studies show that the immunity only last for about 75 days , so there is likely to be the 2nd wave in about 3 months.

Sarbajit

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