Yes, you are very right, the public including non-literates, schoolchildren, college students, and educated lay people do need some explanations of epidemiology of this virus, but many of us (educated ignorants) have heard administrators, highly qualified scientists and epidemiologists disputing each other's claims and hypotheses on YouTube and news channels. Even WHO, who should have known better than to pontificate that the airbourne virus can't infect people, are now hesitatingly admitting that there is a possibility of aerosol viral transmission.
When such information that is vital for our safe conduct is released in small bytes, months after the pandemic has reaped it's deadly toll, suggests deliberate suppression of information on global and national levels. As you know there is, after all, a possibility that this SARS2 organism that has been worked on for gain of function research in many countries, putatively to develop vaccines for bio-warfare protection, that it has been weaponized and has deliberately been released to fulfill the aims of population control advocates like Bill Gates (see his famous TED talks on this) and the secret global elite who want to usher in the new world order sooner rather than later. In fact, there is widespread belief in those who 'see the signs' that this is what has happened. So epidemiology and political science coalesce here.
Our own politicians are so abysmally ignorant about the subjects they handle (think of Prakash Javedekar) that it is perfectly right to condemn their pronouncements, their incompetence and venal.policies. in the most forthright way. If we are to be called urban naxals, Lefties, terrorists, anti-nationals - attributes that are sending dozens of academicians, lawyers, doctors, human rights defenders, political dissidents including Kashmiris to jail in the midst of a raging pandemic - shouldn't we at least condemn the callousness and incapacity of the political leadership to govern this country in the strongest terms possible?
In fact, the mammoth global technocratic confederation that has built up since the 1940s post WWII era despise people and politicians alike. Who says Amazon, Google, the Bezos, Gates Foundation, Elon Musks, and big pharma companies don't rule the world now? Their net worth - non-taxable, stashed in offshore havens - profiteering on the pandemic's impact do suggest it could be a planned disaster. And we are its victims.
They probably have a vaccine already, given to select, compliant world leaders to keep up a facade of democratic governance. After all they've been working on it for decades. But they may ultimately be beaten by the Frankenstein itself, as the virus mutates in constant adaptation to its hosts.
So please, don't suggest moderation in speech by those who condemn the stupidity and venality of local political regimes. We need all voices to be heard. Wait till you find out what happened in villages where those hapless, starving migrants returned home to, carrying their deadly gift of Covid19 with them.
Joya Roy
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020, 03:45 Akash Saini, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology.1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable.2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.ThanksOn Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 4:56 PM Swati Kotwal <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:Dear Sir,Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"What a disrespectful way of addressing the PM and CM, that too from a senior officer. India is really improving. You can always put your point without shouting and using foul language.
Dr Swati Kotwal (Retd)
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On 23-Jul-2020, at 4:32 PM, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Finally,Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"
An official survey by the NCDC (Govt of India) has admitted that by June-July 2020 "only" 22.68% of Delhi's residents had been exposed to (ie. infected by) the novel Corona virus.
This clearly establishes
1) That Modu sarkaar and Kejru sarkaar have been lying throughout this episode and their COVID infection numbers are all fake and cooked up like we said. Furthermore their admissions indicate the COVID death tolls are likewise actually at least 10 times higher than reported, with mass graves being secretly dug everywhere to throw the corpses into.
2) That both these govts (headed by incompetent lying trader community rogues) deliberately wanted to infect as many Indians as possible so that the business establishments run by their trader community notebanks can be reopened for profit and black money generation.
3) The declining infections in Delhi clearly show that by now 60% of the population of Delhi is infected.
4) However, the latest studies show that the immunity only last for about 75 days , so there is likely to be the 2nd wave in about 3 months.
Sarbajit
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