Monday, July 27, 2020

Re: [IAC#RG] Govt has been lying all along on COVID

What you probably need is a basic lesson in infection biology. 

1. Just because the sero survey suggests 23% infection rate, does not mean that everyone else is lying about it. It just means that a lot more people than previously thought are asymptomatic. Yes, they should have done more tests than they have, and they should have been more transparent, but not everything is cooked up like you say. And to assume that, like the infection rate, the death rate is also 10 times higher than reported, is utter stupidity. Because as the science is revealing, its a primarily asymptomatic disease and most people do not show symptoms and therefore do not get tested. This is also why the disease is spreading so rapidly and widely, because the asymptomatic people do not know that they have it and therefore have no idea that they are spreading it. However, while infection can be asymptomatic (and therefore remain hidden), death is not associated with asymptomatic infections and is very much noticeable. 

2. That governments deliberately wanted to infect people, is a baseless and a rather stupid claim. I can understand (and to some extent agree) if you say that they are incompetent or could have done better, but calling them murderous is outrageous and only shows how logically bankrupt you are.

3. There is no evidence to suggest that declining rate means 60% have been infected. You are probably talking about herd immunity, but please know that passing the peak of infection does not mean that herd immunity has been kicked in. Studies have shown no trace of herd immunity having developed in Italy and New York, where Covid has created havoc.

4. What studies have shown is that antibody protection lasts for 75 days; however T-cell response can last for longer and can provide protection from re-infection. This is still being studied and the jury is still out on the level of immunity that a single infection provides. Please refrain from coming to (stupid) conclusions on the basis of WhatsApp forwards. Yes, there is a good chance of second wave, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

Please do some reading and use logic before you send group emails like this.

Thanks



On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 4:56 PM Swati Kotwal <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Dear Sir, 
What a disrespectful way of addressing the PM and CM, that too from a senior officer. India is really improving. You can always put your point without shouting and using foul language. 

Dr Swati Kotwal (Retd)


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On 23-Jul-2020, at 4:32 PM, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Finally,

An official survey by the NCDC (Govt of India) has admitted that by June-July 2020 "only" 22.68% of Delhi's residents had been exposed to (ie. infected by) the novel Corona virus.

This clearly establishes

1) That Modu sarkaar and Kejru sarkaar have been lying throughout this episode and their COVID infection numbers are all fake and cooked up like we said. Furthermore their admissions indicate the COVID death tolls are likewise actually at least 10 times higher than reported, with mass graves being secretly dug everywhere to throw the corpses into.

2) That both these govts (headed by incompetent lying trader community rogues) deliberately wanted to infect as many Indians as possible so that the business establishments run by their trader community notebanks can be reopened for profit and black money generation.

3) The declining infections in Delhi clearly show that by now 60% of the population of Delhi is infected.

4) However, the latest studies show that the immunity only last for about 75 days , so there is likely to be the 2nd wave in about 3 months.

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