Saturday, January 5, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] caring for girls and women

Rajaram ji has really given the right solution which I have been insisting for many years.There is therefore urgent need  to  get embedded  in the governing system -Transparency, Responsibility and Accountability
 
at all levels from Mantri to down below.. Judicial System too needs a total change . Currently it is being run by Advocates and Advocates only . Otherwise should it take years to decide simple cases where flouting of agreements between the two parties are involved . They may be  renting  accommodation  or a deal to sell /purchase property in a time bound period.These cases should not take more than one or two sittings .

Let Aam Admi Party take up fight- to- finish  these two issues to see positive results in the governing system.

Brig J S Ahuja




On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Rajaram Bojji <rajaram.bojji@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree with Brig.  Ahuja. Since independence we are being fooled , by adopting the same colonial master's tactics.

Administration preserved the facility, where executive has higher privilege than a judge.  Executive can merrily misinterpret law ( rules and public policy) to suit own and master's requirement because , he acts in secrecy. His proceedings are secret. Only order delivered.

But a judge cannot secretly misinterpret law. He has to work in open and does not enjoy secrecy for his proceedings.

Justice hence is getting compromised by the imbalance. Police and machinery under executive perforce operate to master's convenience.

This facility is abused by corrupt to mismanage trillion rupee budget to serve private purpose, denying public service. Elections are funded by them as a business.

Their prime object is to sabotage public purpose. How can you expect any law or rule to serve public purpose?

The stakes being high media, intellectuals are all effectively manipulated, perception management take an over.

You may get stronger laws. Worth only a piece of paper.

It is only a matter of correcting the business rules of govt. of India, as issued by Cab.Sec with cabinet approval which needs to be tweaked. Purely an executive action. But executive never will do this. They are mortally scared of even if some one tries to suggest. What is that tweak?

All govt orders shall be published along with proceedings on file, duly scanned on web.

That is all. Looks too simple. You may think RTI helps. But no. Only after damage is done, at the discretion of executive, rationed sanitised bits supplied under RTI.  There also govt creates labyrinth of bureaucracy and already activists find another RTI over RTI working will be needed.

Even lives are taken if activist reaches too sensitive an information.

So to prevent bad orders, we must insist on complete proceedings along with order be made public.

Then what happens?

When any bad order hurting public interest is issued, press, aggrieved , activists have full access to proceedings to expose the culprit in government. Courts too will have full material to prevent the order from taking effect.

Just think. Then persons with corrupt background find govt power of no use to their primary purpose of mismanaging the huge govt funds and assets like spectrum or land.

So they will stop funding elections. Then honest will find easier to enter govt to primarily serve public.

The attitude of police and other law order agencies which have become dysfunctional now, will come back to implementing laws honestly under honest masters.

So do not blame police. They are mere villains of circumstance.

But I request IAC to join me and send the above analysis and demand for correction of Business rule of Govt of India , to make it mandatory to scan and web post complete file proceedings with orders in all matters involving public finance and assets.

Please publicise , circulate to educate all innocent activists.

Let intellectuals and service persons here combine and move Supreme Court with this material, that executive cannot have higher privilege than justices. Then justice is denied under the constitution to common man.

Pray act to save our nation.

Rajaram Bojji  FIE., FNAE
+91 9885700007

On Jan 5, 2013 12:47 PM, "Jagjit Ahuja" <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com> wrote:
Appointment of such commissions is an eye wash being followed as a standard operating procedure since independence  . It is mainly done to gain time in silencing the public voice and also to benefit monetarily these retired officials who have been favouring   the Netas when they were in power .
The real problem lies in our governing system . No one  blames the pillars  of governance - the politicians , the  bureaucrats and the judiciary . They either  play blame game or start giving sermons   when such incidents take place .
It is pity that they  have been given all the powers but no responsibility and accountability . Otherwise  both  Delhi Police Commissioner and Transport Commissioner  should have been suspended on the spot  for dereliction of  their duties.They have been the real culprits.Where as  Netas try to cover up their lapses with excuses to ensure that  they  retain their posts to toe their lines .
 The day they start doing what they are paid to do,  such incidents will get reduced. .


Brig J S Ahuja
Sujata Madhok
Thank you Mr. Purohit for your lucid suggestions. Thank you especially for yo...
9:38 PM (10 hours ago)

Rajaram Bojji
The innocent looking practice of hiding govt file with proceedings while orde...
8:45 PM (10 hours ago)

Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com>
7:33 AM (6 minutes ago)

to indiaresists
Munni and Sheela are part of the society. The entire protest has been  against the poor governance and corrupt law & order enforcement agencies. Currently they, having all the powers with zero accountability, are operating to feed Netas to remain in power .
Had the governing system suspended the Commissioner Delhi Police , the entire scene in the country would have changed? Today we would not have rapists as MLAs and MPs as our elected representatives. Their kith and kin have been another lot who are responsible for all such acts without getting caught.
We need to bring responsibility and accountability at all levels in the governing system . And above all changes in judicial system for speedy actions . This can only create fear in criminals that they can not  get away , irrespective of their  position in the entire governing system.






On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Major Tomar

1) How will making prostitution legal give "poor" girls security in life ?

2) Does the sections of IMTP Act say anything about the prostitutes ? All I could decipher were sections about brothel keepers and landlords.

3) Actually the people who are calling to make prostitution legal are fronts for the mafia who have opened all these hi fi guest houses all oevr Delhi in name of CWG-2010 and mixed land use, and now are using them as brothels. making prostitution legal will simply enable professional girls from all over the worlds to come and ply their trade here openly. So to the extent that it very slightly reduces the hafta to police, shady lawyers and MCD, the IAC shall publicly support legalisation of prostitution without getting into the moral issues. It has hardly anything to do with "poor" girls which is only sleight of hand to distract the "aam aadmi"

Sarbajit

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM, sangeeta tomar <tomarsangeeta27@gmail.com> wrote:

THE IMMORAL TRAFFIC (PREVENTION) ACT, 1956

Definitions.—In this Act.

(a) "brothel" includes any house, room, conveyance or place, or any portion of any house, room, conveyance or place, which is used for purposes of sexual exploitation or abuse for the gain of another person or for the mutual gain of two or more prostitute.

 

(j) "Trafficking police officer" means a police officer appointed by the Central Government under subsection (4) of Section 13.

 

3. Punishment for keeping a brothel or allowing premises to be used as a brothel.— (1) Any person who keeps or manages, or acts or assists in the keeping or management of, a brothel shall be punishable on first conviction with rigorous imprisonment for a term of not less than two years and which may extend to three years and also with fine which may extend to ten thousand rupees and in the event of a second or subsequent conviction, with rigorous imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than three years and which may extend to seven years and shall also be liable to fine which may extend to two lakh rupees

(2) a any person who,—

(a) being the tenant, lessee, occupier or person in charge of any premises, uses, or knowingly allows any other person to use, such premises or any part thereof as a brothel, or

(b) being the owner, lessor or landlord of any premises or the agent of such owner, lessor or landlord, lets the same or any part thereof with the knowledge that the same or any part thereof is intended to be used as a brothel, or is wilfully a party to the use of such premises or any part thereof as a brothel, shall be punishable on first conviction with imprisonment for a term which may extend to two years and with fine which fine which may extend to two thousand rupees and in the event of a second or subsequent conviction, with rigorous imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years and also with fine.

 

WHY I SHARED THIS LAW POSITION WITH YOU ALL-----POINT I WISH TO MAKE

 

1.GB ROADS are places where women/young girls are tortured—CAN ANYONE DENY---NO

 

2. IS THERE NO LAW------NO---------Law is in place and clear --- any  knowingly allows any other person to use such premises as brothel –imprisonment two years

3. How many of the owners are accused, tried and punished under this section 2 of this Act till date.

4. Has Govt appointed trafficking police officer in these area-----if YES---- then what are they doing?

5. IF THE LAW IS IMPLIMENTED CAN AREAS LIKE GB ROAD EXIST---NO

6.ORGANISATIONS AS HUGE AS CRY COLLECT MONEY FROM PUBLIC FOR THESE GIRLS TO REHABILITATE THEM ------------WILL THAT MONEY BE REQUIRED IF THERE ARE NO SUCH AREAS.

7.DO WE NEED MONEY TO CLOSE THESE AREAS-------NO

 

THEN WHY DONT EVERYONE ASK GOVT (WHO EVER IS IN POWER) TO IMPLIMENT THIS LAW

 

OR

SCRAP THIS LAW AND MAKE PROSTITUTIONS LEGAL SO THAT THESE POOR GIRLS AT LEAST HAVE SOME SECURITY IN LIFE AND HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.

 

NOW YOU ALL KNOW THE LEGAL POSITION------------------ITS TIME FOR YOU AND NGO'S LIKE CRY TO START THINKING AND ACT --------------HOW?

 

1. FILE FIR AGAINST THESE OWNERS!

2. STOP FUNDING AND DONATING TO BIG NGO'S LIKE CRY FOR REHBILITATING THESE GIRLS BECAUSE THIS KEEPS THE MONEY IN CIRCULATION FOR WRONG PURPOSES.INFACT CRY NOG SEND YOUNG GIRLS DOOR TO DOOR TO COLLECT MONEY FOR THE NGO EXPOSING THESE GIRLS TO DANGER OF BEING RAPED.


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