The Indian Institute of Mass Communication made a humble beginning on August 17, 1965, as department of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Government of India, with a small staff including two consultants from UNESCO. Later it was registered as an autonomous organisation under the Societies Registration Act (1860) on January 22, 1966.
Shri Jaideep Bhatnagar Officre-on-Special-Duty IIMC, Aruna asaf Ali Marg New Delhi -110067 E-mail : jaideepbhatnagar@hotmail.com Ph. No. 011-26741450
Shri PVK Raja Deputy Registrar IIMC, Aruna asaf Ali Marg New Delhi -110067 E-mail : Ph. No. 011-26741062 Bimal Khemani RTI activist ALIGARH-202001 INDIA Mob:935-972-4625 --- On Sat, 1/1/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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Saturday, January 1, 2011
Re: [rti4empowerment] IIMS - UNDER RTI ACT?
Re: [HumJanenge] reg sedition
Dear Dr. Sharma: Can you please share with me the views of other friends since i guess the forwarded mail did not carry the full string of discussion. With my Sincere Regards Ashok Sharma Reach out and touch someone with your Love & Gratitude. ~Ashok --- On Sun, 2/1/11, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [HumJanenge] reg sedition
THANKS
DR JN SHARMA
On 12/31/10, K N Jagadesh kumar <jkgroup999@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Dwarkanath
>
> You have 100% with in the limit of Constitutionla Provisional, "Freedom of
> speech" which is a fundamental Right of every citizen.
> .
> Just because some one want to keep a watch on us , they just cant take our
> Fundemantal Rights .
>
> In Preamble it says " we the people of India, having solemly resolved to
> constitute India into a SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC and to
> secure to all its citizens, The Justice, Liberty,Equality,Fraternity on
> 26/11/1949, do hereby Adopt, Enact, & Give to ourselves THIS CONSTITUTION.
>
> The Supremecourt Gave Direction to Trail court to finish the trial of
> Dr.Binayak sen & others within the decmeber 2010. we welcome this decision.
> why the same decision were not took in
> 1)"The Bhopal tragedy trial which took 26 years to decide the fate of five
> lakh people's life?.
> 2) "The Bofors which is still investigated & the trial is run to find out
> the kick backs of defence deal?
> 3) Recently in the august 2010, in Bangalore Governmnet beggars colony at a
> time more than 286 beggars (Official record) died in a month. Governmnet
> ordered for COD enquirey. But even after four months the file is laying in
> the chief Minister of karanataka without any decision.
> Article -14 of Indian Constitution says" Equality before Law"
> This means Law is supreme and every citizen should be equally treated.
> But in reality poor peoples life doesn't have any value in INDIA.
> The amount of corruption in 2G, Adarsha, CWG, if at all Indian government
> wants a loan of 4 lakh crores from IMF or world bank we will be asked to
> pledge some states to get this loan amount .
> As you have rightly said, lets understand basic law of the land along with
> our Rights and duties which we are alredy abide.
> if at all any body feels that this does not fit in this groop discussion,
> you can remove me from the mailing address.
> At last "its my right to express" No body can take this including the system
> of the day.
>
> K N Jagadesh kumar
>
> BBM/MBA/LL.B/IPR
> Civil Contractor/RTI activist
> n Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> friends, I do understand that there are a lot of its and buts in the
>> country as far as honesty or integrity or lawfulness or compliance with
>> laws
>> are concerned. I am a born Indian and will be for ever. But being an
>> Indian, it is my fundamental duty, irrespective of what others do, to
>> abide
>> by the Constitution and strive to improve, educate the masses about their
>> rights, liberties and duty (under Article 51-A). I have to honestly put
>> my
>> effort to bring peace and tranquility to the extent possible. I believe
>> in
>> the mass understanding the law of the country and do their bit to not only
>> abide by it but also take corrective peaceful action wherever it is
>> necessary. The country belongs to all of us and not a private property
>> of
>> any individuals or any political parties. I do not intend or attempt to
>> gain any name, fame or rewards in this venture. If my writings offend
>> any
>> of the groups or anybody else, they have the privilege either to ignore or
>> to block the display of write ups.Regards, dwarakanathdm,nbca
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dwarakanath /group
>>>
>>> I dont know in what context this definition has been uploaded, perhaps it
>>> refers to PMK's warnings in Binayak' Sens' discussions
>>>
>>> I surmise that PMK is concerned about members like Major Ravi who were
>>> similarly jailed for their utterances and now go about posting pro-Maoist
>>> comments on various unmoderated blogs and RTI groups purporting to be
>>> written to Constitutional Officers. To illustrate such utterances
>>> http://iesmorg.blogspot.com/2010/06/views-of-maj-pm-ravindran.html
>>>
>>> "This letter is a deliberate effort in that direction. The only other
>>> option available to me is to pray that the naxalites and maoists chose
>>> their
>>> targets correctly whenever they decide to strike because the other
>>> options-
>>> approaching the police or the judiciary- is beyond the pale of ordinary
>>> mortals in this country. It is pertinent to recall that as per the survey
>>> results of Transparency International the police and judiciary are the
>>> most
>>> corrupt institutions in this country which in turn is one of the most
>>> corrupt in the whole world. "
>>>
>>> We don't need a police officer like Amitabh Thakur, IPS to see that such
>>> statements would otherwise directly fall under definition of sedition you
>>> have uploaded except for the fig-leaf of its purportedly being written to
>>> a
>>> Chief Minister,
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Dwarakanath
>>> <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Friends, I reproduce below the definition of 'sedition' under the Indian
>>>> Penal Code. for information:
>>>> 124-A: *Sedition* – whoever by words, either spoken or written, or
>>>> by signs or by visible representation, or otherwise, brings or attempts
>>>> to
>>>> bring into hatred or contempt, or excites or attempts to excite
>>>> disaffection
>>>> towards, the Government established by law in India, shall be punished
>>>> with
>>>> imprisonment for Life, to which fine may be added, or with imprisonment
>>>> which may extend to three years, to which fine may be added, or with
>>>> fine.
>>>> [explanation-1- The expression "disaffection" includes disloyalty and
>>>> all
>>>> feelings of enmity, Explanation 2- Comments expressing disapprobation of
>>>> the
>>>> measures of the Government with a view to obtain their alteration by
>>>> lawful means, without exciting or attempting to excite hatred, contempt
>>>> or
>>>> disaffection, do not constitute an offence under this section.
>>>> Explanation
>>>> 3- Comments expressing disapprobation of the administrative or other
>>>> action
>>>> of the Government without exciting or attempting to excite hatred,
>>>> contempt
>>>> or disaffection, do not constitute an offence under this section.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> K N Jagadesh Kumar
> 9845500932
> jkgroup999@gmail.com
>
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI to Bank----meaningless
The application under RTI to bank won't help as I have received the Order from CIC for a second appeal for some vital information of society account with a nationalised bank. If you require the name of loan defaulters you can use the past Orders of the CIC which directed the banks to give ceratin details . Regards, Kamal Shah--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Anand acf <acfanand@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [HumJanenge] RTI to Bank
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My wife has filed Dowry harrassment charges. She alleges that her father got a loan from ICICI Bank, putting his home as collateral for dowry. I am seeking information from ICICI Bank in this regard to support my case and get justice. The police isn't taking the pain to enquire the same. If I can somehow get this information before the case goes to court, the police would be duty bound to not file a blind chargesheet based on allegations, rather do further investigations properly and give us a clean chit.
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI to Bank
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 1 January, 2011, 8:22 PM
Re, the 2 previous posts
1) ACF_ANAND: should it be "hence you CANNOT directly seek the information from them" ?
2) R.K.Mukherjee: Most of the advise you have given is completely off the mark. The question is who HOLDS the info Mr Victor seeks. If it is ICICI Bank only, then chances are bleak using RTI. If it concerns his own grievance, he can use the RBI's mandated grievance (3 layer) redressal scheme which terminates in the Ombudsman,
Sarbajit
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Anand acf <acfanand@gmail.com> wrote:
ICICI Bank is a private bank. Hecne You can seek directly information
from them. But if govt bodies such as RBI if has any acess to these
information, then you can acess those information through the same
public authority.
--
On 1/1/11, Victor <satyagrahi3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to get information regarding a loan from ICICI Bank using
> RTI? This information is needed for a legal matter and would help the
> investigation. I had filed the RTI with ICICI Bank, but I think since
> private banks don't fall under this ambit they didn't reply (even though
> this information was regarding a legal matter and case details and copy was
> shared with them). Will filing the RTI with RBI help? Could it possibly
> direct ICICI Bank to share the information requested?
>
> Any help, or suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> Anurag
>
Anand S.
Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
Bangalore 560 085.
Cell No. +91-92410-12730
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI to Bank
My wife has filed Dowry harrassment charges. She alleges that her father got a loan from ICICI Bank, putting his home as collateral for dowry. I am seeking information from ICICI Bank in this regard to support my case and get justice. The police isn't taking the pain to enquire the same. If I can somehow get this information before the case goes to court, the police would be duty bound to not file a blind chargesheet based on allegations, rather do further investigations properly and give us a clean chit.
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI to Bank
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 1 January, 2011, 8:22 PM
Re, the 2 previous posts
1) ACF_ANAND: should it be "hence you CANNOT directly seek the information from them" ?
2) R.K.Mukherjee: Most of the advise you have given is completely off the mark. The question is who HOLDS the info Mr Victor seeks. If it is ICICI Bank only, then chances are bleak using RTI. If it concerns his own grievance, he can use the RBI's mandated grievance (3 layer) redressal scheme which terminates in the Ombudsman,
Sarbajit
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Anand acf <acfanand@gmail.com> wrote:
ICICI Bank is a private bank. Hecne You can seek directly information
from them. But if govt bodies such as RBI if has any acess to these
information, then you can acess those information through the same
public authority.
--
On 1/1/11, Victor <satyagrahi3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to get information regarding a loan from ICICI Bank using
> RTI? This information is needed for a legal matter and would help the
> investigation. I had filed the RTI with ICICI Bank, but I think since
> private banks don't fall under this ambit they didn't reply (even though
> this information was regarding a legal matter and case details and copy was
> shared with them). Will filing the RTI with RBI help? Could it possibly
> direct ICICI Bank to share the information requested?
>
> Any help, or suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> Anurag
>
Anand S.
Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
Bangalore 560 085.
Cell No. +91-92410-12730
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI to Bank
Mr Anurag I request U to put some more details of the matter in question. People will understand better in case there is some feasibility in using RTI for a larger cause. Rgds Bunch --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
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