Amazing.--On 3 December 2013 12:21, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
As even your 1 vote is important for India, please do me 1 small favour and read a brief history of the real Indian Independence movement which is linked. Suneeti Chaudhury, mentioned in the last para, who shot the District Magistrate in Commilla in 1931 is a great-grand-aunt of mine, and it is their heritage which we honor when we vote to take back our respect, our adult franchise, and our country.HRA wants you to realise, if you haven't already, that voting is a sheer waste of time because there are hardly any honest and patriotic people left in politics. Even if there were, they get corrupted very fast. You cannot be a saint in a brothel. Be warned that this time the RED NOTA BUTTON is a fraud designed to make you waste your vote so that the foreigners can keep ruling us.Dear IAC subscribersAfter polling has concluded in 3 states, Delhi (the National Capital of India) goes to the polls tomorrow. Tomorrow will see an epic battle which has taken 4 years of planning by Congress Party tacticians to ensure that Ms. Sonia Gandhi gets a perfect birthday gift on 9.Dec.2013 to add to her (so secret that Indians are not to know about them) riches which outshine even those of the Queen of England
IAC and HRA humbly invites each and every person who reads this email to go out and vote. It is completely immaterial to us who you vote for - because all the alternatives on the ballot are equally bad and are ''status-quo" options. Each and every one of the parties seeking your vote for Delhi are massively foreign financed by foreign State funding to ensure that India forever remains a client state for arms, oil and other technologies.
I would like to end with an extract from this history which should remind us in Delhi that those who don't learn from history are forever doomed to repeat it."Soon after, the National Congress launched the non-cooperation movement and on the urging of Gandhiji, C.R. Das and the other leaders most of the revolutionaries either joined the movement or suspended their own activities. But the sudden suspension of the non-cooperation movement left them disillusioned. They were not attracted by the parliamentary politics of the swarajists. Many were drawn to the idea that violent methods alone could free India.Thus it is not accidental that nearly all the major new leaders of the revolutionary terrorist politics, for example, Jogesh Chandra Chatterjea, Surya Sen, Jatin Das, Chandrashekhar Azad, Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Shiv Verma, Bhagwati Charan Vohra and Jaidev Kapur, had been enthusiastic participants of the non-cooperation movement. Gradually two separate strands of revolutionary terrorism developed - one in Punjab, U.P. and Bihar and other in Bengal.
The revolutionaries in northern India were the first to emerge out of the mood of frustration and reorganize under the leadership of the old veterans, Ramprasad Bismil, Jogesh Chatterjea and Sachindranath Sanyal whose Bandi Jiwani served as a textbook to the revolutionary movement. They met in Kanpur in October 1924 and founded the Hindustan Republican Association (or Army) to organize armed revolution to overthrow colonial rule and establish in its place a Federal Republic of the United States of India whose basic principle would be adult franchise."
SarbajitKiran ShaheenI carry a torch in one hand
And a bucket of water in the other:
With these things I am going to set fire to Heaven
And put out the flames of Hell
So that voyagers to God can rip the veils
And see the real goal.......
Rabia (Rabi'a Al-'Adawiyya)
Tuesday, December 3, 2013
Re: [IAC#RG] Real Leaders or fake Gandhis ?
Re:[IAC#RG]
As far as WHAT IAC is going to do and WHEN we shall do it, it is very much in the public domain. HOW we are going to do it is not. Anna Hazare has no role to play in our plans whatsoever. I would advise you to read IAC's Manifesto and Charter carefully and see if it is agreeable to you.
NB: When ordinary people in a crisis are offered a "soft choice" and a "hard" one, 90% of them will take the easy way out.
IAC is now for the hard core cases. In other words IAC is for the next generation of "sikhyas".
Dear Sir,Self vesting powers of an idealism and honesty lies on this platform too. Everybody is happy to hear the praiseworthy texts for each other. Nothing will be the outcome. Anna has gone in deep depression since a year or so without having any strength in himself nor he relies on anybody else except himself!carry on the things in a darkroom where only your praiseworthy persons are passing their retired period around you! you are lord here on this platform and what will be the outcome of this platform only god knows.regardsGS
Re:[IAC#RG]
> Please tell me honestly, how many IAC Members will come forward to
> organise such a 'NO BRIBE CAMPAIGN" ?
You have got your answer. All these things belong to the OLD and
discredited IAC of TeamAnna. 99.999% of so-called anti-corruption
people/bodies who organise such foolishness are deeply corrupt
themselves.
Let us take the case of 1 website - "www.ipaidabribe.com". Its an
initiative by Janagraha from Bangalore. But, If you examine them
closely, it turns out that Janagraha is a micro-finance company and is
into notes for votes. In fact as a reward for helping Congress to
sweep Karnataka, their founder was even rewarded with a seat on RBI's
Board for financial inclusion - in other words giving him a licence to
write their own rules and regulations.
AND HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE
http://www.moneylife.in/article/does-the-rbi-know-how-much-conflicts-of-interest-it-has-created/34760.html
Please understand clearly that these financiers are everywhere in the
social space, operating behind fronts, owning newspapers, magazines
(Tehelka), TV channels, schools and creating votebanks of the poorest
and most desperate people. And their biggest tool today is AADHAAR or
UID - a CIA sponsored tool to enslave Indians with the most
anti-national American people like Nandan Nilekani (who appointed him
and how was he appointed ?) to oversee this new slavery.
By ensuring FAKE AADHAARS over 2 million dummy voters were created in
Karnataka to ensure a Congress win there. Nilekani (who with Infosys
and Narayanmurthi) has financed haramis like Kejriwal for years on
end, is doing the same in Delhi (reportedly 3 million fake Aadhaars)
to ensure a AAP win - because a desperate Congress knows that the only
way to stop Modi in 2014 is to scale up AAP nationwide.
So, all these petty things like not paying bribes are a non-issue for
IAC. We now focus on the real corrupt things like FAKE DEMOCRACY -
where voters are bogus, candidates are goons, EVMs are rigged and so
is the judiciary to allow it.
Sarbajit
On 12/1/13, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Respected Sri Santmathur Sir,
>
> I agree with you. Let us all work together to root out corruption in the
> country. To start with Indiaresists Members should stop getting their job
> done by shortcut methods by giving Bribe and taking Bribe. In each
> area/locality IAC Forum should be formed and take a decision not to give
> bribe and take bribe to get their job done in Police Stations, Municipal
> Corporation, Panchayats, Metro Water & Sewage Board, Electricity Board,
> Sales Tax, Income Tax, Check Posts, Central Excise and Custom, Cinema
> Theatres, Rail Travels, Gas connections and refill supplies, Telephones,
> Pass Port offices, etc., etc. Normally, corruption starts only when we
> want to circumvent the Rule of Law and get the job done by paying bribe. If
> all the IAC Members start to practice 'NO BRIBE CAMPAIGN", in the Official
> as well as Personal works, atleast lower level corruption to some extent can
> be stopped. Of-course, in the process, we will face some problem in not
> getting our job done within a reasonable time. But, we should be prepared
> to put up with the delay for a cause.
>
> Please tell me honestly, how many IAC Members will come forward to
> organise such a 'NO BRIBE CAMPAIGN" ?
>
> With Best Regards,
> A.S.KALYANAM
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Monday, December 2, 2013
Re: [IAC#RG] Real Leaders or fake Gandhis ?
As even your 1 vote is important for India, please do me 1 small favour and read a brief history of the real Indian Independence movement which is linked. Suneeti Chaudhury, mentioned in the last para, who shot the District Magistrate in Commilla in 1931 is a great-grand-aunt of mine, and it is their heritage which we honor when we vote to take back our respect, our adult franchise, and our country.HRA wants you to realise, if you haven't already, that voting is a sheer waste of time because there are hardly any honest and patriotic people left in politics. Even if there were, they get corrupted very fast. You cannot be a saint in a brothel. Be warned that this time the RED NOTA BUTTON is a fraud designed to make you waste your vote so that the foreigners can keep ruling us.Dear IAC subscribersAfter polling has concluded in 3 states, Delhi (the National Capital of India) goes to the polls tomorrow. Tomorrow will see an epic battle which has taken 4 years of planning by Congress Party tacticians to ensure that Ms. Sonia Gandhi gets a perfect birthday gift on 9.Dec.2013 to add to her (so secret that Indians are not to know about them) riches which outshine even those of the Queen of England
IAC and HRA humbly invites each and every person who reads this email to go out and vote. It is completely immaterial to us who you vote for - because all the alternatives on the ballot are equally bad and are ''status-quo" options. Each and every one of the parties seeking your vote for Delhi are massively foreign financed by foreign State funding to ensure that India forever remains a client state for arms, oil and other technologies.
I would like to end with an extract from this history which should remind us in Delhi that those who don't learn from history are forever doomed to repeat it."Soon after, the National Congress launched the non-cooperation movement and on the urging of Gandhiji, C.R. Das and the other leaders most of the revolutionaries either joined the movement or suspended their own activities. But the sudden suspension of the non-cooperation movement left them disillusioned. They were not attracted by the parliamentary politics of the swarajists. Many were drawn to the idea that violent methods alone could free India.Thus it is not accidental that nearly all the major new leaders of the revolutionary terrorist politics, for example, Jogesh Chandra Chatterjea, Surya Sen, Jatin Das, Chandrashekhar Azad, Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Shiv Verma, Bhagwati Charan Vohra and Jaidev Kapur, had been enthusiastic participants of the non-cooperation movement. Gradually two separate strands of revolutionary terrorism developed - one in Punjab, U.P. and Bihar and other in Bengal.
The revolutionaries in northern India were the first to emerge out of the mood of frustration and reorganize under the leadership of the old veterans, Ramprasad Bismil, Jogesh Chatterjea and Sachindranath Sanyal whose Bandi Jiwani served as a textbook to the revolutionary movement. They met in Kanpur in October 1924 and founded the Hindustan Republican Association (or Army) to organize armed revolution to overthrow colonial rule and establish in its place a Federal Republic of the United States of India whose basic principle would be adult franchise."
Sarbajit
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I carry a torch in one hand
And a bucket of water in the other:
With these things I am going to set fire to Heaven
And put out the flames of Hell
So that voyagers to God can rip the veils
And see the real goal.......
Rabia (Rabi'a Al-'Adawiyya)
[IAC#RG] Real Leaders or fake Gandhis ?
IAC and HRA humbly invites each and every person who reads this email to go out and vote. It is completely immaterial to us who you vote for - because all the alternatives on the ballot are equally bad and are ''status-quo" options. Each and every one of the parties seeking your vote for Delhi are massively foreign financed by foreign State funding to ensure that India forever remains a client state for arms, oil and other technologies.
I would like to end with an extract from this history which should remind us in Delhi that those who don't learn from history are forever doomed to repeat it.
Thus it is not accidental that nearly all the major new leaders of the revolutionary terrorist politics, for example, Jogesh Chandra Chatterjea, Surya Sen, Jatin Das, Chandrashekhar Azad, Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Shiv Verma, Bhagwati Charan Vohra and Jaidev Kapur, had been enthusiastic participants of the non-cooperation movement. Gradually two separate strands of revolutionary terrorism developed - one in Punjab, U.P. and Bihar and other in Bengal.
The revolutionaries in northern India were the first to emerge out of the mood of frustration and reorganize under the leadership of the old veterans, Ramprasad Bismil, Jogesh Chatterjea and Sachindranath Sanyal whose Bandi Jiwani served as a textbook to the revolutionary movement. They met in Kanpur in October 1924 and founded the Hindustan Republican Association (or Army) to organize armed revolution to overthrow colonial rule and establish in its place a Federal Republic of the United States of India whose basic principle would be adult franchise."
SarbajitRe:[IAC#RG]
> Please tell me honestly, how many IAC Members will come forward to
> organise such a 'NO BRIBE CAMPAIGN" ?
You have got your answer. All these things belong to the OLD and
discredited IAC of TeamAnna. 99.999% of so-called anti-corruption
people/bodies who organise such foolishness are deeply corrupt
themselves.
Let us take the case of 1 website - "www.ipaidabribe.com". Its an
initiative by Janagraha from Bangalore. But, If you examine them
closely, it turns out that Janagraha is a micro-finance company and is
into notes for votes. In fact as a reward for helping Congress to
sweep Karnataka, their founder was even rewarded with a seat on RBI's
Board for financial inclusion - in other words giving him a licence to
write their own rules and regulations.
AND HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE
http://www.moneylife.in/article/does-the-rbi-know-how-much-conflicts-of-interest-it-has-created/34760.html
Please understand clearly that these financiers are everywhere in the
social space, operating behind fronts, owning newspapers, magazines
(Tehelka), TV channels, schools and creating votebanks of the poorest
and most desperate people. And their biggest tool today is AADHAAR or
UID - a CIA sponsored tool to enslave Indians with the most
anti-national American people like Nandan Nilekani (who appointed him
and how was he appointed ?) to oversee this new slavery.
By ensuring FAKE AADHAARS over 2 million dummy voters were created in
Karnataka to ensure a Congress win there. Nilekani (who with Infosys
and Narayanmurthi) has financed haramis like Kejriwal for years on
end, is doing the same in Delhi (reportedly 3 million fake Aadhaars)
to ensure a AAP win - because a desperate Congress knows that the only
way to stop Modi in 2014 is to scale up AAP nationwide.
So, all these petty things like not paying bribes are a non-issue for
IAC. We now focus on the real corrupt things like FAKE DEMOCRACY -
where voters are bogus, candidates are goons, EVMs are rigged and so
is the judiciary to allow it.
Sarbajit
On 12/1/13, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Respected Sri Santmathur Sir,
>
> I agree with you. Let us all work together to root out corruption in the
> country. To start with Indiaresists Members should stop getting their job
> done by shortcut methods by giving Bribe and taking Bribe. In each
> area/locality IAC Forum should be formed and take a decision not to give
> bribe and take bribe to get their job done in Police Stations, Municipal
> Corporation, Panchayats, Metro Water & Sewage Board, Electricity Board,
> Sales Tax, Income Tax, Check Posts, Central Excise and Custom, Cinema
> Theatres, Rail Travels, Gas connections and refill supplies, Telephones,
> Pass Port offices, etc., etc. Normally, corruption starts only when we
> want to circumvent the Rule of Law and get the job done by paying bribe. If
> all the IAC Members start to practice 'NO BRIBE CAMPAIGN", in the Official
> as well as Personal works, atleast lower level corruption to some extent can
> be stopped. Of-course, in the process, we will face some problem in not
> getting our job done within a reasonable time. But, we should be prepared
> to put up with the delay for a cause.
>
> Please tell me honestly, how many IAC Members will come forward to
> organise such a 'NO BRIBE CAMPAIGN" ?
>
> With Best Regards,
> A.S.KALYANAM
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