Monday, March 4, 2019

Re: [IAC#RG] How can 45 HINDUSTANI martyrs be avenged without violating some law or using forces

> a) Get rid of Ajit Doval and his parallel networks which are fully
> infiltrated by Islamic elements and compromising Army humint.

Has the IAF has been left with egg all over its face because of some
Doval's kiddy clowns who over rely on electronic intelligence ?

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/india-pakistan-iaf-air-strike-balakot-indian-air-force-mirage-2000-jem-camp-ntro-survelliance-300-active-targets-imran-khan-narendra-modi-pakistan-air/376482

"sources revealed on Monday that technical surveillance conducted by
the Indian intelligence services in the days leading up to the air
strike had confirmed around 300 active mobile connections in the
facility. The information, revealed through the surveillance conducted
by the National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO), gives a fair
indication of the number of terrorists killed in the February 26
airstrike, sources told news agency ANI."

?? ACTIVE MOBILE CONNECTIONS ??

Explains why BJP bania brigade have taken a standard 20% bania stop
loss and discounted kill assessments to 250 from 300.

On 3/3/19, Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com> wrote:
> How should 45 Hindustanis killed by this jihadist be avenged ?
>
> a) Get rid of Ajit Doval and his parallel networks which are fully
> infiltrated by Islamic elements and compromising Army humint.
>
> b Leave it to the affected forces.
>
> c) Ab tak Chhappan ( 56:1 ratio)
>
> d) Don't politicise what you do. Run silent run deep.
>
> e) *Dabaake maaro*
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 2:12 PM Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> *UPDATE:*
>>
>> I am happy to inform our members that after widespread public doubts on
>> social media and TV channels like NDTV about "0" casualties in the air
>> strike, our Goi is "*leaking*" that the actual location where we struck
>> was at Arabkhan (Manshera), about 3.5 km south of Village Jaba (Balakot)
>> where Pakistan took reporters of Reuters, Al-Jazeera etc for
>> disinformation
>> to Mamata Banerjee, Arvind Kejriwal and Pappu, and credible evidence
>> indicates Masood Azhar himself has been either killed or is badly
>> wounded.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:45 PM Vidyut <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am not a pacifist and can be happily blood-thirsty if the occasion
>>> demands it. However, I think we are mistaken in seeing Kashmir as one
>>> such
>>> subject.
>>>
>>> Regardless of Pakistan's support or JEM, it is important to understand
>>> that the suicide bomber was a Kashmiri. All the support in the world
>>> can't
>>> make someone give up their life unless they think it is futile to begin
>>> with.
>>>
>>> THIS is the crux of the Kashmir problem. One I am disappointed that a
>>> country with a freedom struggle so close in her past is unable to
>>> recognize.
>>>
>>> We cannot invite love with slaps. If you were to court someone to marry
>>> you, you wouldn't kick them and ask them to tell you they love you or
>>> else.
>>> Yet this is what we seem to be doing over and over with Kashmir. There
>>> is
>>> an entire generation come to adulthood who see armed violence as NORMAL.
>>> They don't even have an experience of what it is like to never have seen
>>> a
>>> gun up close - which is the reality of most Indians not in security
>>> careers
>>> outside Kashmir.
>>>
>>> We are so fast to take outrage if someone insults our parents or lays a
>>> hand on our sister. For them this is normal. Even without abuse, they
>>> can
>>> be searched on whim. They have no autonomy over their own body. Pause to
>>> think of this a bit.
>>>
>>> Suicides are high. A suicide bombing is just one way of doing it. A
>>> lashing out.
>>>
>>> Violent choices must be seen in this context. We have contributed to a
>>> world where this is NORMAL for them. The only difference is whether they
>>> obey another or do as they wish. School kids are throwing angry stones
>>> at
>>> forces. The same forces that come to their rescue in avalanches. More
>>> than
>>> hate, this is the frustration of living in a cage. Of being poked by
>>> random
>>> strangers on whim. Of being impotent to protect your loved ones, from
>>> "protectors" or random violence.
>>>
>>> What we need to "avenge" the dead CRPF jawans is to defeat this. Not
>>> defeat suicidal kids, but defeat what makes them suicidal.
>>>
>>> This government is all about a land grab. It HATES Kashmiris, but wants
>>> the land. This government is not going to be able to do it. But
>>> governments
>>> change. A country endures. We, as citizens too have tremendous power to
>>> include and love. The day we feel angry when a Kashmiri teenager who
>>> can't
>>> go out because of curfew is also denied 4G, that teenager feels like we
>>> understand his hardship. We may not be in Kashmir, but we have voices
>>> and
>>> we can speak up for them. We can care. We can feel the same outrage over
>>> blinded kids that we do over bombed soldiers. Because both of them are
>>> ours.
>>>
>>> Even calls for Azadi can be defeated if they want to be a part of India.
>>> Where they feel included in our identity. Have we even done that that we
>>> blame them and hate them for feeling isolated and lashing out in the few
>>> ways they can?
>>>
>>> And we can stop being so freaking pliant and question lapses. Propaganda
>>> can't create security. Secure protocols, oversight, good equipment,
>>> addressing problems, funding, accountability, training, recruitments,
>>> support for jawans suffering PTSD.... all that is needed. We can avenge
>>> the
>>> dead CRPF jawans by ensuring that unnecessary threats to their lives are
>>> defeated.
>>>
>>> And sure, if as a part of proper security we have information about
>>> Pakistan and terror groups, we address that too. Not with hate, but
>>> firmness. To protect Kashmir and Kashmiris, not to strangle them.
>>>
>>> V
>>>
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